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What I would like to see in Pioneer's next CDJ

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What I would like to see in Pioneer's next CDJ Posted on: 20.12.2011 by Philip Degener Integrated Timecode ...plug turntable RCAs into back of CDJ and control whatever is playing on it goodbye traktor/serato goodbye laptop goodbye waiting for "scratch certification" hello vinyl feel hello simplicity
Dorie Scelzo 26.12.2011	Originally Posted by 3IJ Integrated Timecode ...plug turntable RCAs into back of CDJ and control whatever is playing on it I just remembered that Vestax/Tascam already did that. Kinda. It wasn't time code, it was this thing that tracked the record kinda like how mouse balls used to work before everyone went optical. They had connections to some rackmount CD players, the Vestax CDX-05, and the Mixwell CD-DJ1. I used one of the mixwell things once with just a slipmat and was really impressed
Dorie Scelzo 25.12.2011	Lol. The first time I did it with Traktor, I felt proud. But i had been on Ableton for a while, hadn't touched decks in over a year, and had never even pretended to try to beat match manually with a controller. It still worked, but I was astonished. I certainly don't believe it's absolutely necessary to be able to do it manually depending on your goals, your gear , and where you are in your career. The only thing I don't get is the resistance to learning it. It's really not that hard. Any of the old DJF guys remember those videos of Marc's kid doing it
Dorie Scelzo 26.12.2011	Originally Posted by 3IJ Integrated Timecode ...plug turntable RCAs into back of CDJ and control whatever is playing on it I just remembered that Vestax/Tascam already did that. Kinda. It wasn't time code, it was this thing that tracked the record kinda like how mouse balls used to work before everyone went optical. They had connections to some rackmount CD players, the Vestax CDX-05, and the Mixwell CD-DJ1. I used one of the mixwell things once with just a slipmat and was really impressed
Dorie Scelzo 25.12.2011	Lol. The first time I did it with Traktor, I felt proud. But i had been on Ableton for a while, hadn't touched decks in over a year, and had never even pretended to try to beat match manually with a controller. It still worked, but I was astonished. I certainly don't believe it's absolutely necessary to be able to do it manually depending on your goals, your gear , and where you are in your career. The only thing I don't get is the resistance to learning it. It's really not that hard. Any of the old DJF guys remember those videos of Marc's kid doing it
Dorie Scelzo 26.12.2011	Originally Posted by 3IJ Integrated Timecode ...plug turntable RCAs into back of CDJ and control whatever is playing on it I just remembered that Vestax/Tascam already did that. Kinda. It wasn't time code, it was this thing that tracked the record kinda like how mouse balls used to work before everyone went optical. They had connections to some rackmount CD players, the Vestax CDX-05, and the Mixwell CD-DJ1. I used one of the mixwell things once with just a slipmat and was really impressed
Dorie Scelzo 25.12.2011	Lol. The first time I did it with Traktor, I felt proud. But i had been on Ableton for a while, hadn't touched decks in over a year, and had never even pretended to try to beat match manually with a controller. It still worked, but I was astonished. I certainly don't believe it's absolutely necessary to be able to do it manually depending on your goals, your gear , and where you are in your career. The only thing I don't get is the resistance to learning it. It's really not that hard. Any of the old DJF guys remember those videos of Marc's kid doing it
Terese Bachorski 26.12.2011	^^^ that tracking ball made so much more sense, no more wear for both record and needles. Originally Posted by guiltyblade you would be surprised at how many so called djs I know who come and play with me can't at all. I play at this one place and when they have to transition to another dj with different gear or something goes wrong they call me over to do it. Pretty sad. I lost count myself. Like I always say, many will autosync and beatgrid, few will be DJs. Let them be noobs for life as it only contributes to make the real DJs look better.
Dorie Scelzo 26.12.2011	Originally Posted by 3IJ Integrated Timecode ...plug turntable RCAs into back of CDJ and control whatever is playing on it I just remembered that Vestax/Tascam already did that. Kinda. It wasn't time code, it was this thing that tracked the record kinda like how mouse balls used to work before everyone went optical. They had connections to some rackmount CD players, the Vestax CDX-05, and the Mixwell CD-DJ1. I used one of the mixwell things once with just a slipmat and was really impressed
Dorie Scelzo 25.12.2011	Lol. The first time I did it with Traktor, I felt proud. But i had been on Ableton for a while, hadn't touched decks in over a year, and had never even pretended to try to beat match manually with a controller. It still worked, but I was astonished. I certainly don't believe it's absolutely necessary to be able to do it manually depending on your goals, your gear , and where you are in your career. The only thing I don't get is the resistance to learning it. It's really not that hard. Any of the old DJF guys remember those videos of Marc's kid doing it
Alla Bluemke 24.12.2011	Originally Posted by Manu The sound of ziiiing. What's with all these people who can't even beatmatch ? you would be surprised at how many so called djs I know who come and play with me can't at all. I play at this one place and when they have to transition to another dj with different gear or something goes wrong they call me over to do it. Pretty sad.
Terese Bachorski 24.12.2011	Originally Posted by mostapha I actually really hate this idea. If you're going to use sync, use sync. Bitchy, repetitive, technical things are what computers are good at. If a computer (or DSP chip) is going to be doing all the believeing anyway, then take the human completely out of it and let him/her do what humans are good at instead of pretending. Phase meters are stop-gap solutions for posers. The sound of ziiiing. What's with all these people who can't even beatmatch ?
Dorie Scelzo 23.12.2011	Originally Posted by photojojo That day was 1989. I was there and it was glorious. Yeah
Romelia Stankard 22.12.2011	Originally Posted by DjZzeless Cant play by ear? You dont need waveforms...... It's not really a need thing, but why not have the option? Yes, there are times where I believe zoomed waveforms are useful and like having the option of looking at them. You have them currently with a laptop connected running rekordbox but it would be better to just put them on the player and have an option to toggle between the browser and zoomed waveforms. It wouldn't take away from anything and seems pretty doable.
Freddie Henrichs 22.12.2011	Originally Posted by Xonetacular CDJ-2000 style player with an option for zoomed in waveforms. An ability to select a master deck and then have a phase meter on each player that would work through ethernet. Not that I'm into pioneer mixers, but to go along with it the next DJM-2000 style mixer would have a center LCD screen angled at the top that could show vertical or horizontal scrolling SSL style waveforms for each player through ethernet, you could have a larger file browser and cover art browser and load tracks through the mixer, and could do a lot of the rekordbox stuff right on the mixer. Cant play by ear? You dont need waveforms......
Leeanna Ayla 22.12.2011	Originally Posted by mostapha I admit that it's wierd, but I kinda just go "meh" about that. I hate zoomed-in waveforms. Never use them except to set beat grids
Dorie Scelzo 22.12.2011	I admit that it's wierd, but I kinda just go "meh" about that. I hate zoomed-in waveforms. Never use them except to set beat grids
Romelia Stankard 22.12.2011	Originally Posted by mostapha I actually really hate this idea. If you're going to use sync, use sync. Bitchy, repetitive, technical things are what computers are good at. If a computer (or DSP chip) is going to be doing all the believeing anyway, then take the human completely out of it and let him/her do what humans are good at instead of pretending. Phase meters are stop-gap solutions for posers. I guess I would just like to see options on an $1900 player. All the tech is already there with quantized songs with rekordbox and a phase meter could be useful on a 3-4 CDJ setup. Really though that's not that important and I mainly just want to see zoomed scrolling style waveforms in the browser area. The 2000 is setup for them perfectly and if only they had a button to toggle between the browser and zoomed waveforms and maybe use the browse encoder to zoom in or out- if nothing else than to see the detail of a loop when it is engaged.
Dorie Scelzo 22.12.2011	Originally Posted by Xonetacular CDJ-2000 style player with an option for zoomed in waveforms. An ability to select a master deck and then have a phase meter on each player that would work through ethernet. I actually really hate this idea. If you're going to use sync, use sync. Bitchy, repetitive, technical things are what computers are good at. If a computer (or DSP chip) is going to be doing all the believeing anyway, then take the human completely out of it and let him/her do what humans are good at instead of pretending. Phase meters are stop-gap solutions for posers.
Terese Bachorski 26.12.2011	^^^ that tracking ball made so much more sense, no more wear for both record and needles. Originally Posted by guiltyblade you would be surprised at how many so called djs I know who come and play with me can't at all. I play at this one place and when they have to transition to another dj with different gear or something goes wrong they call me over to do it. Pretty sad. I lost count myself. Like I always say, many will autosync and beatgrid, few will be DJs. Let them be noobs for life as it only contributes to make the real DJs look better.
Dorie Scelzo 26.12.2011	Originally Posted by 3IJ Integrated Timecode ...plug turntable RCAs into back of CDJ and control whatever is playing on it I just remembered that Vestax/Tascam already did that. Kinda. It wasn't time code, it was this thing that tracked the record kinda like how mouse balls used to work before everyone went optical. They had connections to some rackmount CD players, the Vestax CDX-05, and the Mixwell CD-DJ1. I used one of the mixwell things once with just a slipmat and was really impressed
Sam Hanno 26.12.2011	it can be kinda hard...when you're using slow southern rap, T.I or some shit. but even then it's more a matter of the beat structure being different rather than difficulty matching tempo, it can sound weird.
Dorie Scelzo 25.12.2011	Lol. The first time I did it with Traktor, I felt proud. But i had been on Ableton for a while, hadn't touched decks in over a year, and had never even pretended to try to beat match manually with a controller. It still worked, but I was astonished. I certainly don't believe it's absolutely necessary to be able to do it manually depending on your goals, your gear , and where you are in your career. The only thing I don't get is the resistance to learning it. It's really not that hard. Any of the old DJF guys remember those videos of Marc's kid doing it
Alla Bluemke 24.12.2011	Originally Posted by Manu The sound of ziiiing. What's with all these people who can't even beatmatch ? you would be surprised at how many so called djs I know who come and play with me can't at all. I play at this one place and when they have to transition to another dj with different gear or something goes wrong they call me over to do it. Pretty sad.
Terese Bachorski 24.12.2011	Originally Posted by mostapha I actually really hate this idea. If you're going to use sync, use sync. Bitchy, repetitive, technical things are what computers are good at. If a computer (or DSP chip) is going to be doing all the believeing anyway, then take the human completely out of it and let him/her do what humans are good at instead of pretending. Phase meters are stop-gap solutions for posers. The sound of ziiiing. What's with all these people who can't even beatmatch ?
Dorie Scelzo 23.12.2011	Originally Posted by photojojo That day was 1989. I was there and it was glorious. Yeah
Romelia Stankard 22.12.2011	Originally Posted by DjZzeless Cant play by ear? You dont need waveforms...... It's not really a need thing, but why not have the option? Yes, there are times where I believe zoomed waveforms are useful and like having the option of looking at them. You have them currently with a laptop connected running rekordbox but it would be better to just put them on the player and have an option to toggle between the browser and zoomed waveforms. It wouldn't take away from anything and seems pretty doable.
Freddie Henrichs 22.12.2011	Originally Posted by Xonetacular CDJ-2000 style player with an option for zoomed in waveforms. An ability to select a master deck and then have a phase meter on each player that would work through ethernet. Not that I'm into pioneer mixers, but to go along with it the next DJM-2000 style mixer would have a center LCD screen angled at the top that could show vertical or horizontal scrolling SSL style waveforms for each player through ethernet, you could have a larger file browser and cover art browser and load tracks through the mixer, and could do a lot of the rekordbox stuff right on the mixer. Cant play by ear? You dont need waveforms......
Alla Bluemke 22.12.2011	cdj 2000 with slip mode.......
Leeanna Ayla 22.12.2011	Originally Posted by mostapha I admit that it's wierd, but I kinda just go "meh" about that. I hate zoomed-in waveforms. Never use them except to set beat grids
Dorie Scelzo 22.12.2011	I admit that it's wierd, but I kinda just go "meh" about that. I hate zoomed-in waveforms. Never use them except to set beat grids
Romelia Stankard 22.12.2011	Originally Posted by mostapha I actually really hate this idea. If you're going to use sync, use sync. Bitchy, repetitive, technical things are what computers are good at. If a computer (or DSP chip) is going to be doing all the believeing anyway, then take the human completely out of it and let him/her do what humans are good at instead of pretending. Phase meters are stop-gap solutions for posers. I guess I would just like to see options on an $1900 player. All the tech is already there with quantized songs with rekordbox and a phase meter could be useful on a 3-4 CDJ setup. Really though that's not that important and I mainly just want to see zoomed scrolling style waveforms in the browser area. The 2000 is setup for them perfectly and if only they had a button to toggle between the browser and zoomed waveforms and maybe use the browse encoder to zoom in or out- if nothing else than to see the detail of a loop when it is engaged.
Dorie Scelzo 22.12.2011	Originally Posted by Xonetacular CDJ-2000 style player with an option for zoomed in waveforms. An ability to select a master deck and then have a phase meter on each player that would work through ethernet. I actually really hate this idea. If you're going to use sync, use sync. Bitchy, repetitive, technical things are what computers are good at. If a computer (or DSP chip) is going to be doing all the believeing anyway, then take the human completely out of it and let him/her do what humans are good at instead of pretending. Phase meters are stop-gap solutions for posers.
Romelia Stankard 21.12.2011	CDJ-2000 style player with an option for zoomed in waveforms. An ability to select a master deck and then have a phase meter on each player that would work through ethernet. Not that I'm into pioneer mixers, but to go along with it the next DJM-2000 style mixer would have a center LCD screen angled at the top that could show vertical or horizontal scrolling SSL style waveforms for each player through ethernet, you could have a larger file browser and cover art browser and load tracks through the mixer, and could do a lot of the rekordbox stuff right on the mixer.
Dorie Scelzo 20.12.2011	Frank, you meant CDX
Dino Hapgood 20.12.2011	They have this - its called the numark ttx.
Patty Mcgilbra 20.12.2011	Originally Posted by 3IJ Integrated Timecode ...plug turntable RCAs into back of CDJ and control whatever is playing on it goodbye traktor/serato goodbye laptop goodbye waiting for "scratch certification" hello vinyl feel hello simplicity wouldn't it be easier to hope for such a turntable? as in usb slot on the TT and maybe an additional screen (allow for an ipad to be plugged in)
Leeanna Ayla 20.12.2011	I would like to see them take the CD out of the CDJ.
Reed Kempisty 20.12.2011	Originally Posted by 3IJ @ Nick Definitely. Since CDJs are and will remain the club standard, this would mean a standardized DVS system. You can still show up with your USB stick or CD book but now have option for DVS with no extra hassle. i guess. i personally don't like scrolling through tracks on a small CDJ screen, but whatever floats your boat.
Philip Degener 20.12.2011	@ Nick Definitely. Since CDJs are and will remain the club standard, this would mean a standardized DVS system. You can still show up with your USB stick or CD book but now have option for DVS with no extra hassle.
Terese Bachorski 20.12.2011	What I would like to see in Pioneer's next CDJ realistic price tags

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