Software that corrects mixtape mistakes?

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Software that corrects mixtape mistakes?
Posted on: 09.02.2012 by Bryon Niccoli
So I've got two 1200's and a mixer and I want to record a mix onto my hi-fi CD recorder. Realistically it's nigh on impossible for me to do a full 70 minute set without making some mistakes.

Now, I was believeing it would be a lot more feasible for me to record it in two parts, ie. to spend ages getting the first part on tape perfectly. Then to record the second set in another session. I would then like to splice the two recordings together using software, but I can believe of two problems with this.

1. The BPM is likely to be slightly different in both recordings.
2. The volume will certainly be different in both.

Because lets face it, I can make a note of the last record having the gain at 12 O'Clock or the pitchfader on the left deck being at roughly +4.5 but those kind of notes arent very accurate. So is there a (preferably cheap) piece of software that can do this basic task of mixing these two files together, without midi hardware, and also without using key correction/ timestretching technology as I want it to sound like a proper deck?

I would guess this is a common practice as I've rarely heard any mistakes on supposedly 'live' DJ compilation CD'd from the 90's & 00's, they can't all have been recorded in 99 takes. For example Ministry of Sound used Pro tools to correct Judge Jules mistakes on his mix CD's a decade ago, but the bulk of the mixing was done naturally
Aleta Jevtic
11.02.2012
Originally Posted by DJ Millenium Falcon
Just to make it clear, I only want to cheat a little. What I'm trying to avoid is doing a good set in a single take then have a single trainwreck in the last 5 minutes, forcing myself to go back to the start again. Really all I want to do is splice two 35 minute files together. I don't have any problems with the CD picking up the sound of my fingers brushing the platter or anything, that's normal, but who remembers hearing a well-practiced mixtape with gallopping horses in the last track.
Well since your computer and system are in 2 complete different rooms you best bet maybe a simple analog 4 track or digital one.
Bryon Niccoli
10.02.2012
Just to make it clear, I only want to cheat a little. What I'm trying to avoid is doing a good set in a single take then have a single trainwreck in the last 5 minutes, forcing myself to go back to the start again. Really all I want to do is splice two 35 minute files together. I don't have any problems with the CD picking up the sound of my fingers brushing the platter or anything, that's normal, but who remembers hearing a well-practiced mixtape with gallopping horses in the last track.

Incidentally this commercially released compilation has car crash mixing for every tune

http://www.discogs.com/DJ-Maxximus-B...release/576680
Dorie Scelzo
10.02.2012
Originally Posted by durtyjerzy609
master a mix tape? whats the point
It makes it louder, and it makes it more likely to sound decent on any random sound system. People like louder things. And you want their stereo to not kill it. I've gotten a lot that sounded like utter garbage because the DJ had no idea how to record.

Originally Posted by Patch
Oh, you're gonna get it now...
He's right about this one. Vinyl sounds like crap.

It's also awesome. But that has nothing to do with sound quality.

Originally Posted by rgtb
if analog was better than digital, why would OP record his set digitally AND process/correct it digitally? just wanted to point out the irony...
Not right anymore. Analog and digital are not fundamentally different except that digital gear has a ridiculously low noise floor. Read up on the Nyquist-Shannon Sampling Theorem. I can do that math, and I believe it.

That has nothing to do with vinyl vs. digtial because vinyl is a crap medium.

There's a lot of analog gear that's easily worth using
Albertina Fay
10.02.2012
Originally Posted by patch
oh - now you're really gonna get it.

next you'll be saying that 320kbps .mp3's sound better than .wav's...
lol!!
Ngan Ernestine
10.02.2012
Originally Posted by Patch
Next you'll be saying that 320kbps .mp3's sound better than .wav's...
gotta disappoint you i constrain myself to saying that they do not sound significantly different according to all the studies i've seen
Brunilda Kora
10.02.2012
Oh - now you're REALLY gonna get it.

Next you'll be saying that 320kbps .mp3's sound better than .wav's...
Ngan Ernestine
10.02.2012
Originally Posted by Patch
Oh, you're gonna get it now...
i know you said this with a wink but let me reply anyhow.

if analog was better than digital, why would OP record his set digitally AND process/correct it digitally? just wanted to point out the irony...
Stefania Herb
11.02.2012
master a mix tape? whats the point... i miss the old mix tapes like bobito and stretch armstrong... when the dj messed up they just threw a vocal stab over it or just talked shit and laughed it up.. the point of a mixtape is it should sound organic and fun... the mistakes (as long as they arent huge) are what gives a mixtape character.. if over mastered or produced... then it dosnt feel like a mix tape.. it feels like a demo
Brunilda Kora
10.02.2012
Originally Posted by rgtb
it seems to me vinyl does nothing but complicating the production process and deteriorating the audio quality.
Oh, you're gonna get it now...
Sherry Nyblom
10.02.2012
Originally Posted by HedgeHog
Having some small mistakes (no trainwrecks) in your mixtape can help your audience relate to it better. When listening to a super-clean mix I'm always wondering whether it has been done in Live or Acid Pro.
Exactly. I feel the same.
Ngan Ernestine
10.02.2012
Originally Posted by HedgeHog
Having some small mistakes (no trainwrecks) in your mixtape can help your audience relate to it better. When listening to a super-clean mix I'm always wondering whether it has been done in Live or Acid Pro.
yes, possibly.

OP: if you wanna do a perfect mixtape, use live or mixmeister from the outset. quite frankly, i find it completely absurd that you wanna record your mix with 1200s but then fix errors in software. given your goals, it seems to me vinyl does nothing but complicating the production process and deteriorating the audio quality.
Makkins Clifton
10.02.2012
Having some small mistakes (no trainwrecks) in your mixtape can help your audience relate to it better. When listening to a super-clean mix I'm always wondering whether it has been done in Live or Acid Pro.
Melinda Shick
10.02.2012
Originally Posted by icb
hm, I thought mixtapes are done in one try. At least that's how I do it. Sounds kinda lame to produce the mixtape imo :/
Personally I just do my mix tapes in one take, usually littered with mistakes but only I can ever really tell, especially if your using tracks people don't know too well.

Promo mixes however, I basically produce them using traktor and live, then work out recreating them on cdjs for live use by burning edits of songs.
Lisa Lochotzki
10.02.2012
that's the purpose of The Bridge...tssss
Sherry Nyblom
10.02.2012
hm, I thought mixtapes are done in one try. At least that's how I do it. Sounds kinda lame to produce the mixtape imo :/
Leeanna Ayla
09.02.2012
http://blog.dubspot.com/how-to-make-...iftee-new-mix/
Bryon Niccoli
09.02.2012
Mostapha in particular gave a comprehensive reply, thank you. Although I forgot to mention that my desktop PC is downstairs and my hi-fi is upstairs so recording live onto a PC is very impractical especially what with me not owning the cables & gadgets probably necessary to do this.

As for practice makes perfect, there are some tracks I'm using that are very hard to mix, not quite sure what it is about them as they are straight four to the floor, but they just sound awkward when you have them in one ear and more normal tunes coming from the speaker into the other ear, but you know how that goes. Suffice to say the chanceof recording the whole set perfectly is as likely as winning the lottery with these difficult tracks in the setlist.

I'll have to look into this Audacity programme.

Anyway, cheers for the help. It's after midevening in Europe, so I'm going to bed now.
Tatum Ansaldo
09.02.2012
Originally Posted by sr711
Audacity
+1
Dorie Scelzo
09.02.2012
You've got 3 options.

Option 1: Record the mix into pro tools (or another DAW, you could use Audacity for this) 1 track at a time. Basically, the way you do it is to use different audio tracks for each track and record the mix one track at a time, letting each track play out on its own track
Romona Luthe
09.02.2012
Audacity

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