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Software that corrects mixtape mistakes?
Posted on: 09.02.2012 by Bryon Niccoli
So I've got two 1200's and a mixer and I want to record a mix onto my hi-fi CD recorder. Realistically it's nigh on impossible for me to do a full 70 minute set without making some mistakes.

Now, I was believeing it would be a lot more feasible for me to record it in two parts, ie. to spend ages getting the first part on tape perfectly. Then to record the second set in another session. I would then like to splice the two recordings together using software, but I can believe of two problems with this.

1. The BPM is likely to be slightly different in both recordings.
2. The volume will certainly be different in both.

Because lets face it, I can make a note of the last record having the gain at 12 O'Clock or the pitchfader on the left deck being at roughly +4.5 but those kind of notes arent very accurate. So is there a (preferably cheap) piece of software that can do this basic task of mixing these two files together, without midi hardware, and also without using key correction/ timestretching technology as I want it to sound like a proper deck?

I would guess this is a common practice as I've rarely heard any mistakes on supposedly 'live' DJ compilation CD'd from the 90's & 00's, they can't all have been recorded in 99 takes. For example Ministry of Sound used Pro tools to correct Judge Jules mistakes on his mix CD's a decade ago, but the bulk of the mixing was done naturally
Natashia Dionise
18.02.2012
Originally Posted by mostapha
I suppose you've never heard of post production, then?

If your goal is to put out an awesome mixtape, anything goes. If I were doing that, I'd use a DAW.

If your goal is to put out a demo
Natashia Dionise
18.02.2012
Originally Posted by mostapha
I suppose you've never heard of post production, then?

If your goal is to put out an awesome mixtape, anything goes. If I were doing that, I'd use a DAW.

If your goal is to put out a demo
Natashia Dionise
18.02.2012
Originally Posted by mostapha
I suppose you've never heard of post production, then?

If your goal is to put out an awesome mixtape, anything goes. If I were doing that, I'd use a DAW.

If your goal is to put out a demo
Natashia Dionise
18.02.2012
Originally Posted by mostapha
I suppose you've never heard of post production, then?

If your goal is to put out an awesome mixtape, anything goes. If I were doing that, I'd use a DAW.

If your goal is to put out a demo
Natashia Dionise
19.02.2012
Originally Posted by souldancer
fixtape is what your looking for.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXEBD...eature=related
So... It's tape, but not a mixtape...

This is a mixtape. Or is it a tapemix...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xuy0GAsnNQ
Those where the days..
Natashia Dionise
18.02.2012
Originally Posted by mostapha
Weird, I believe "demo" means demo, and mix tape either means hip hop or those things you gave girls you liked in middle school.

Also, when I said practice, I meant practice djing, not practice that particular mix. If you can't get something in a couple takes, you're probably not ready to record for whatever ypu're trying to do. Tht doesn't mean quit or anything, just that you might have to either practice more or alter your expectations.
Or use software that corrects mistakes...

No worries, I got the point
Natashia Dionise
18.02.2012
Originally Posted by mostapha
I suppose you've never heard of post production, then?

If your goal is to put out an awesome mixtape, anything goes. If I were doing that, I'd use a DAW.

If your goal is to put out a demo
Natashia Dionise
18.02.2012
Originally Posted by djproben
Considering it hasn't really been a "tape" since the 1980s, it seems silly to fuss over the word "mix" now
:eek:
Yes, Ur right.

But I'm from the "tape" era....

Danae Dumler
17.02.2012
Originally Posted by Kontrol
Edditting a Mixtape.... Mmm, is it still a Mixtape then?
Considering it hasn't really been a "tape" since the 1980s, it seems silly to fuss over the word "mix" now
Dorie Scelzo
16.02.2012
Originally Posted by Kontrol
Yep, from that point you're right I believe.
I was believeing more about a "Live Mix Tape", after edditting it isn't "live" anymore..
I suppose you've never heard of post production, then?

If your goal is to put out an awesome mixtape, anything goes. If I were doing that, I'd use a DAW.

If your goal is to put out a demo
Stefania Herb
17.02.2012
Originally Posted by Maxted
Id say so, if you literally cut and spliced a tape id call it a mixtape still, i believe if it contains a sequence of selected tunes, its a mixtape.

However i believe of mixtapes and promo mixs as different things, a promo should showcase your talent, be almost entirely live then just mastered, whereas a mix tape for me is just for listening.
+1
Natashia Dionise
16.02.2012
Originally Posted by Maxted
Id say so, if you literally cut and spliced a tape id call it a mixtape still, i believe if it contains a sequence of selected tunes, its a mixtape.

However i believe of mixtapes and promo mixs as different things, a promo should showcase your talent, be almost entirely live then just mastered, whereas a mix tape for me is just for listening.
Yep, from that point you're right I believe.
I was believeing more about a "Live Mix Tape", after edditting it isn't "live" anymore..
Melinda Shick
15.02.2012
Originally Posted by Kontrol
Edditting a Mixtape.... Mmm, is it still a Mixtape then?
Id say so, if you literally cut and spliced a tape id call it a mixtape still, i believe if it contains a sequence of selected tunes, its a mixtape.

However i believe of mixtapes and promo mixs as different things, a promo should showcase your talent, be almost entirely live then just mastered, whereas a mix tape for me is just for listening.
Dorie Scelzo
12.02.2012
Originally Posted by DJ Millenium Falcon
What's all this talk about 4-track, it seems like an expensive & niche piece of hi-fi gear to record things onto when a 200 dollar CD recorder will suffice (and something I already have).
not hi-fi. and not really niche either.

The only reason is so you don't waste CD-Rs with things you have to do over.

And you could re-record just mistakes with them if you wanted to
Natashia Dionise
19.02.2012
Originally Posted by souldancer
fixtape is what your looking for.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXEBD...eature=related
So... It's tape, but not a mixtape...

This is a mixtape. Or is it a tapemix...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xuy0GAsnNQ
Those where the days..
Shalon Jaranilla
19.02.2012
fixtape is what your looking for.
Natashia Dionise
18.02.2012
Originally Posted by mostapha
Weird, I believe "demo" means demo, and mix tape either means hip hop or those things you gave girls you liked in middle school.

Also, when I said practice, I meant practice djing, not practice that particular mix. If you can't get something in a couple takes, you're probably not ready to record for whatever ypu're trying to do. Tht doesn't mean quit or anything, just that you might have to either practice more or alter your expectations.
Or use software that corrects mistakes...

No worries, I got the point
Dorie Scelzo
18.02.2012
Weird, I believe "demo" means demo, and mix tape either means hip hop or those things you gave girls you liked in middle school.

Also, when I said practice, I meant practice djing, not practice that particular mix. If you can't get something in a couple takes, you're probably not ready to record for whatever ypu're trying to do. Tht doesn't mean quit or anything, just that you might have to either practice more or alter your expectations.
Natashia Dionise
18.02.2012
Originally Posted by mostapha
I suppose you've never heard of post production, then?

If your goal is to put out an awesome mixtape, anything goes. If I were doing that, I'd use a DAW.

If your goal is to put out a demo
Natashia Dionise
18.02.2012
Originally Posted by djproben
Considering it hasn't really been a "tape" since the 1980s, it seems silly to fuss over the word "mix" now
:eek:
Yes, Ur right.

But I'm from the "tape" era....

Danae Dumler
17.02.2012
Originally Posted by Kontrol
Edditting a Mixtape.... Mmm, is it still a Mixtape then?
Considering it hasn't really been a "tape" since the 1980s, it seems silly to fuss over the word "mix" now
Wava Zachery
18.02.2012
I had the same thoughts about making a mixtape.
Tried audacity and ableton mainly so i could record each deck into a seperate channel so if i messed up i could edit the channel with the mistake.
After attempting this and failing (not as easy as it sounds) i found it really isnt a true representation of yourself as a DJ.

For mixtapes i just PLAN PRACTICE and PREPARE
Get my set locked in and practice the transitions for each song, mark the drop points/build ups/break downs with cue markers and do a few test recordings.
The first few recordings are usually pretty good but i find i ALWAYS make mistakes mixing but the more i listen back the more i can hear what worked and what didn't as well as ideas to add more flavor to the mix
I'm not pro but any recording of my sets would represent how i mix live.
IF your making a spliced mixtape you can run MP3gain on the tracks so they are all the same volume.
Keli Vandenbergh
17.02.2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHDoTAMqJA8
Dorie Scelzo
16.02.2012
Originally Posted by Kontrol
Yep, from that point you're right I believe.
I was believeing more about a "Live Mix Tape", after edditting it isn't "live" anymore..
I suppose you've never heard of post production, then?

If your goal is to put out an awesome mixtape, anything goes. If I were doing that, I'd use a DAW.

If your goal is to put out a demo
Stefania Herb
17.02.2012
Originally Posted by Maxted
Id say so, if you literally cut and spliced a tape id call it a mixtape still, i believe if it contains a sequence of selected tunes, its a mixtape.

However i believe of mixtapes and promo mixs as different things, a promo should showcase your talent, be almost entirely live then just mastered, whereas a mix tape for me is just for listening.
+1
Natashia Dionise
16.02.2012
Originally Posted by Maxted
Id say so, if you literally cut and spliced a tape id call it a mixtape still, i believe if it contains a sequence of selected tunes, its a mixtape.

However i believe of mixtapes and promo mixs as different things, a promo should showcase your talent, be almost entirely live then just mastered, whereas a mix tape for me is just for listening.
Yep, from that point you're right I believe.
I was believeing more about a "Live Mix Tape", after edditting it isn't "live" anymore..
Melinda Shick
15.02.2012
Originally Posted by Kontrol
Edditting a Mixtape.... Mmm, is it still a Mixtape then?
Id say so, if you literally cut and spliced a tape id call it a mixtape still, i believe if it contains a sequence of selected tunes, its a mixtape.

However i believe of mixtapes and promo mixs as different things, a promo should showcase your talent, be almost entirely live then just mastered, whereas a mix tape for me is just for listening.
Chanell Guillemin
15.02.2012
If you make a mistake all you have to do is stop the song (don't stop the recording) and rewind back a couple of bars. Redo the mix and keep going with the recording. When you edit the mix tape, cut out the bad part.
Natashia Dionise
14.02.2012
Edditting a Mixtape.... Mmm, is it still a Mixtape then?
Dorie Scelzo
12.02.2012
Originally Posted by DJ Millenium Falcon
What's all this talk about 4-track, it seems like an expensive & niche piece of hi-fi gear to record things onto when a 200 dollar CD recorder will suffice (and something I already have).
not hi-fi. and not really niche either.

The only reason is so you don't waste CD-Rs with things you have to do over.

And you could re-record just mistakes with them if you wanted to
Emely Metz
12.02.2012
it depends...honestly for me i prefer pristine mixset as like listening to compilation mix CDs, i just dont want to interrupt the flow with some error here & there.

if you're just record it live for the fun of it, might as well do it the live way.
it depends very much on what is the usage of the mixtape, for listening pleasure or just for gauging the personal practice progress.
Rebecka Ilar
12.02.2012
If you want everything bang on the beat, use ableton. Tracks slipping in and out is part of the excitement of using vinyl, and the mix will sound more natural. The majority of people prefer that Myself included
Bryon Niccoli
12.02.2012
What's all this talk about 4-track, it seems like an expensive & niche piece of hi-fi gear to record things onto when a 200 dollar CD recorder will suffice (and something I already have).
Georgianna Eurick
12.02.2012
^^ gotcha thanks
Dorie Scelzo
12.02.2012
Originally Posted by DJ Millenium Falcon
Just to make it clear, I only want to cheat a little. What I'm trying to avoid is doing a good set in a single take then have a single trainwreck in the last 5 minutes, forcing myself to go back to the start again.
Practice more.

Yeah
Sherry Nyblom
12.02.2012
Originally Posted by ThinkAboutIt
I wasn't believeing to pretend. I was simply saying right now I'm doing it all live without any software, just push the rec button at Traktor and mix it. But If I record only transitions and add the rest of the songs through Audacity will it be lame? Or should I only believe to improve my skills even though my mixes don't sound perfect.

I hope I've expressed myself since english is not my mother tongue
Whats the point in producing your mixes? Your mixes should represent your live sound, so best idea is to record your mixes live in one take. If someone hears your perfectly produced mix and book you, and then its obvious you cant mix like that, it wont bring you any good. Jusr record your mixes with your mixing skills afnd then lisyen to them and you will make yourself to mix better and better with practice. In the long run it will be more helpful, then spending your energy on things liked producing your mixtape.
Georgianna Eurick
11.02.2012
I wasn't believeing to pretend. I was simply saying right now I'm doing it all live without any software, just push the rec button at Traktor and mix it. But If I record only transitions and add the rest of the songs through Audacity will it be lame? Or should I only believe to improve my skills even though my mixes don't sound perfect.

I hope I've expressed myself since english is not my mother tongue
Brunilda Kora
11.02.2012
What you are believeing IS lame.

Make up your mind. Either do a mix live in one take, or use software to put a mix together.

Don't try to pretend you are doing one by doing the other.
Aleta Jevtic
11.02.2012
Originally Posted by ThinkAboutIt
I'm believeing maybe if I record the transitions and than add the rest of the song with Audacity it'll be easier and with less (maybe zero) mistakes. Right now I'm mixing them live without any mastering. Is what I'm believeing lame?
the problem with that is unless record the songs at exact same volume it will be easy to tell you spliced together a mix. I believe maybe you should three songs at a time. Song 1 transition to song 2 transition to Song 3 and let song 3 play out. Then you can use audacity to put it all together. That way if you make a mistake during a transition you will only need to re-record three songs instead of a full mix. Honestly you really need to have your setup in same room as your computer otherwise you just making it harder for yourself.
Georgianna Eurick
11.02.2012
I'm believeing maybe if I record the transitions and than add the rest of the song with Audacity it'll be easier and with less (maybe zero) mistakes. Right now I'm mixing them live without any mastering. Is what I'm believeing lame?

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