Help me decide on a midi capable scratch mixer

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Help me decide on a midi capable scratch mixer
Posted on: 08.01.2012 by Ninfa Mazariegos
I'm trying to decide on what kind of mixer to go with for my ideal dvs setup. What I do know that I want in a setup is- 2 technics (for scratching and other turntablism routines), Traktor scratch pro 2 with the audio 10 (for ultimate connectivity), and 1 midi fighter pro (for cue hopping and beatmashing)

What I'm looking for in a mixer is one that is midi capable, has an excellent adjustable crossfader for scratching, can be used with just the turntables for vinyl only (no dvs) or all midi without the turntables (with just the midifighter, soundcard, and traktor for portability) and have as much control over traktor as I do now with just my herc controller (lots of buttons). Does such a beast exist?
Ninfa Mazariegos
13.01.2012
What controls on that vestax unit are not midi mappable? Would I be able to use it by itself without turntables?

If not, is there anything about the t1 that I should consider that make it worth three times as much as the ddm4000? Is that behringer scratch certified or would I still need a seperate sound card?
Lora Vandewark
13.01.2012
Ha, I briefly had one too...... I guess we all have to kiss a few frogs before we find our princess!
Dorie Scelzo
12.01.2012
DJX700 was technically my first mixer. I returned it after a week with 2 dead channels and bought a Vestax.

The ddm4k is a lot better than that.
Lora Vandewark
13.01.2012
I used to have a Xone 92 and a DJM 600 previous to the Behringer. Most clubs I've played in have had a Xone too. Personally, I've never got on with them. Yes, the filters are fantastic but I'm not really a fan to be honest.

I know there is other mixers out there that will probably sound a lot better and are built like tanks, but at home, for somebody like me who regularly switches from DVS to "proper" vinyl numerous times in a set, does a bit of scratching and messes with some MIDI effects in Traktor, I can't really fault it.


Although the lightness of the faders takes some getting used to, and some of the smaller buttons definitely have that "Behringer" feel about them. And these facts, along with Behringer's previous history of sub-standard mixers is why this little gem often gets overlooked, especially by the "old school" folk who remember what a DJX700 is.

EDIT: I would rather like a "proper" scratch mixer though, like a Pio 909 or an Ecler
Dorie Scelzo
13.01.2012
Liney, have you used a mixer that's traditionally considered better?

I've heard good things about the ddm4k, and I don't really knock it all that much
Lora Vandewark
12.01.2012
I'd agree with the post above. It's not traditionally a scratch mixer but smash in the Innofader, or even Behringer's own Infinium X1 fader (can be had for less than
Masako Barcalow
12.01.2012
Not sure if I would call it a "scratch" mixer, but have you considered the DDM4000? 4 channels which are individually assignable to midi or analog, with full Traktor integration? Crossfader is adjustable and replaceable, so I'm guessing if the stock one wasn't cutting it, you could put an Innofader in it? I recently got one and while I don't really scratch at all, its price point at 300-400 USD was hard for me to pass up. I'm kinda talking outta my arse here, so someone feel free to correct me if I'm in the wrong about this.
Dorie Scelzo
11.01.2012

Vestax PMC-05 Pro IV.
It also comes in red.

It's not 100% MIDI, but you don't need 100% midi. You get a few buttons and encoders, a shift button, plus the easiest DVS setup that isn't just a certified mixer, extra IO, several inputs, great faders
Leeanna Ayla
09.01.2012
Originally Posted by djfunke
Take your time and believe about what you would want for it. My job only pays minimum wage and I'll have to sell my current gear as well as some other non dj stuff before I can afford anything, so right now i'm just trying to get ideas of what's out there. If anyone has any other mixers they would recommend, feel free to mention them.
It's not really for sale, but if someone were to send me $900 for the mixer and scratch upgrade I would probably buckle.

Originally Posted by Cybertrash
Do you do any scratching with it at all? Just out of curiosity.
Nope, actually the cross fader is mapped to delay.
Evelyn Navarijo
10.01.2012
Originally Posted by photojojo
I've thought about selling my 1600 and could maybe be persuaded to bundle a scratch upgrade along with it.
Do you do any scratching with it at all? Just out of curiosity.
Ninfa Mazariegos
10.01.2012
Take your time and believe about what you would want for it. My job only pays minimum wage and I'll have to sell my current gear as well as some other non dj stuff before I can afford anything, so right now i'm just trying to get ideas of what's out there. If anyone has any other mixers they would recommend, feel free to mention them.
Leeanna Ayla
09.01.2012
Originally Posted by djfunke
I'm liking the four channels of the x1600, and would make buying the audio 10 unnecessary. I probably wouldnt use the onboard fx. How much would the upgrade to tsp2 cost?
I've thought about selling my 1600 and could maybe be persuaded to bundle a scratch upgrade along with it.
Ninfa Mazariegos
09.01.2012
I'm liking the four channels of the x1600, and would make buying the audio 10 unnecessary. I probably wouldnt use the onboard fx. How much would the upgrade to tsp2 cost?

I'm digging the layout of the t1 as it seems to be more up my alley of full control of traktor, but I would like to be able to have volume control over the sample decks. I guess I could just map a knob as a channel fader.
Leeanna Ayla
09.01.2012
If you want four channels the DNX1600 is mighty fine.
Fred Offill
08.01.2012
+1 Johnv . Forgot about that mixer .
Tiara Bastarache
08.01.2012
Denon DNX 600. On board effects as well.
Fred Offill
08.01.2012
The pioneer djm-t1 seems to be what your looking for . Traktor scratch ready , midi capabilities , can be used as a standalone mixer (no dvs only normal vinyl or cdj's...) & it can be used with traktor's internal decks .

That said , it is still an expensive beast .

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