Pioneer is moving into the cheap controller category

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Pioneer is moving into the cheap controller category
Posted on: 29.08.2012 by Diogo Dj Dragão
Looks like Pio is wanting to play in the low end now. The DDJ-WeGO is apparently a $299 controller that will ship with Serato Intro. Looks a little... well I'll let you guys decide.

Jonathan Chiuchiolo
30.08.2012
What sort of "bugs" are we talkin? if you mean something like a cockroach that may not be so hard, but a honey bee or a wasp no way I'm catching 300 of those just to give to Pioneer LOL
Matt Kane
30.08.2012
Originally Posted by AtgAni
Seems good for a cheap portable backup, sometimes it's an effort to take a big bag with an s4 to a mates for a party
300 bugs a cheap backup? nah come on. the controls are way to basic. for 300 bugs you can get way better stuff with more ability to control your software.
Kenya Zaretsky
30.08.2012
the faceplate looks ok.
but this plastic tank on the bottom side looks so fisher price toy style.
Khadijah Bucker
30.08.2012
Seems good for a cheap portable backup, sometimes it's an effort to take a big bag with an s4 to a mates for a party
Rolanda Clodfelder
30.08.2012
Well clearly they have you screwed big time down there , I was going by US prices where they are now sub $900 (and with the exchange rate more than $640 above US prices).

I just don't see any argument over a $300 controller vs pro quality .. It just seems decent enough, nothing to scream about but its a reasonably cheap all-in-one controller that will get the newbies using Pio Gear without breaking the bank and providing an update channel, which I'm guessing is the goal.
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
30.08.2012
the ddj-t1/s1 both are around $1400AUS for that much coin you could almost get the cdj400 & djm400 bundle at $1600AUS "street price" what is hard to take is the bundle has higher quality components throughout and runs standalone with usb/cd or as a HID controller... The ddj's on the other hand are hollow, don't have any running gear and require a computer to use adding about $1000 to the overall price to get up and running. All pioneer really need to do is use better components similar to their better gear but they choose not to and still charge as much as if they did. These decisions have lost my confidence in pioneer as a company, hopefully they will realise that you can only cash in on your reputation without backing it up for so long before you lose everything.
Rolanda Clodfelder
30.08.2012
Originally Posted by synthet1c
sorry I'm comparing them to equally priced gear... I don't like the jogs as the ball bearings are noisy, I don't like the faders as you cant easily slam them as they have so much resistance... the crossfader is the same although a little looser.. knobs also have too much resistance for my taste... basically everything that is important is lacking... When I pay pioneer money I expect pioneer djm feel on the mixer and they haven't even come close to delivering that. the rest is not as important to me but it's nice to have good jogs and buttons.
I don't believe you could ever expect a DJM feel considering the price of the entire controller is almost equal to that of just a mixer, scarifies will be made unless you fancy shelling out 2k on a controller.

I have yet to touch any all-in-one controller in the sub $1000 dept that can come close to feeling like a decent DJ mixer - numark NS7 is definetly the best I can believe of @ $1200 (ns6 was released after pio - so not comparing it). Come to believe of it with the exception of the Technics sl-DZ1200 (useless CD player but felt beautiful looking and actually feels like a distant cousin to the sl-1200), I cant believe of a CDJ either that feels any less like a toy than a 15 year old Gemini Turntable.

I've just come to accept that electronic gear is built to be disposable these days - and cheap plastic does in fact last as well as metal in most cases when not abused, or at least until the device is made redundant by the next model.

Sad but true.
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
30.08.2012
sorry I'm comparing them to equally priced gear... I don't like the jogs as the ball bearings are noisy, I don't like the faders as you cant easily slam them as they have so much resistance... the crossfader is the same although a little looser.. knobs also have too much resistance for my taste... basically everything that is important is lacking... When I pay pioneer money I expect pioneer djm feel on the mixer and they haven't even come close to delivering that. the rest is not as important to me but it's nice to have good jogs and buttons.
Rolanda Clodfelder
30.08.2012
I honestly haven't seen anyone say their controllers felt bad, in fact quite the opposite - that they felt pretty much like their CD decks (400's) and mixers, just a tad too expensive compared to the competition when they were originally released.
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
30.08.2012
there not covering anything but cdj's and mixers... their controllers are terrible in feel, price and features compared to the competition. They treat their controllers range as toys when they could easily make better gear, but that would mean less sales of cdj's and mixers to bedroom dj's which is probably 90% of their sales.
Rolanda Clodfelder
30.08.2012
Originally Posted by photojojo
Typical Pioneer, $299 for a $150 product.
I dunno, its cheaper than the Hercules 4mx, with the exception of inputs, and seems to have more controls over FX ... I would have expected higher priced TBH.
Leeanna Ayla
30.08.2012
Typical Pioneer, $299 for a $150 product.
Rolanda Clodfelder
30.08.2012
Originally Posted by Otacon
its like a cheap RMX with jogs. Pioneer is really going for a different customer base here.
Nope ... now they are covering now they are covering nearly all the customer bases with the exception of midi fighter style controllerist DJ's.
Erich Vallabhaneni
30.08.2012
its like a cheap RMX with jogs. Pioneer is really going for a different customer base here.
robin loo
30.08.2012
but.. but.. it comes in all those cool colors.
Brunilda Kora
30.08.2012
Toy.
Cira Ditz
30.08.2012
well it's got 4 hotcues per deck which (I believe) not even the newly announced Aero doesn't have.
Kellie Myrum
30.08.2012
Looks very toy-ish to me. Little amount of controls for 300 bucks I'd be free to say but that's fine cause it comes with serato.
Latoria Kavulich
30.08.2012
*choke* *cough* .. sorry guys not used to the words "pioneer" and "cheap" in the same sentence.
Tesha Freudenstein
30.08.2012
that's just a little more than i paid for my headphones it's so small i'd be afraid breaking it.
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
30.08.2012
Guess what software it's bundled with

It's actually pretty small so could be a good controller to map for effects as a supplement to any setup... The jogs have multicoloured leds so could easily let you know what shift you're in... I still wouldn't buy it though.

Diogo Dj Dragão
29.08.2012
$299 is pretty cheap. I believe the Denon controller is a much better buy for $299, but some people will just see the Pioneer name and buy based on that. I can't slight them either - Pioneer has earned that luxury.
Margie Pavell
29.08.2012
299 isnt cheap...99 bucks is cheap...
Shonda Soulier
29.08.2012
lol
Leisha Thirkield
29.08.2012
Originally Posted by DJKyleHughes
Looks good enough to use if it's the only thing you can bring. Although pricy for such a little thing.
I wonder if its the name thats pricy or if it will actually have a decent soundcard/build
Noriko Lebowitz
29.08.2012
Looks good enough to use if it's the only thing you can bring. Although pricy for such a little thing.
Ossie Pooley
29.08.2012
It's Pioneer, people will inevitably buy it.

Woe is life
Lawana Spratlen
29.08.2012
looks fake to me
Diogo Dj Dragão
29.08.2012
Real question is what is intended for?
The DDJ-WeGO is apparently a $299 controller that will ship with Serato Intro.
From what I've heard so far.
Julissa Serrone
29.08.2012
I believe that's a nifty little controller and pretty cool use of space and ergonomics.

Real question is what is intended for? Virtual DJ. I see deck c&d and also move grid?
Janyce Henningson
29.08.2012
Looks a bit like a robot owl
Celine Surico
29.08.2012
That's where the money is...
Lilliana Perris
29.08.2012
W.....T....F?!

Yep...this looks like the WORST plastic I have ever soon.

Man oh man!

We have this cheap copy brand here in SA that they sell in the Cash Crusader and Cash Converters stores here called Dixon.
They have some DJing gear and its the worst I ever seen, until now.

The idea is cool I guess, as its layout is super simple etc, but does it have to look that crap?
Its embarrassing to know that such rubbish gear exists for us DJ's.....DAMN!

http://www.beyondmusicind.com/upload...1006132626.jpg

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