Pioneer is moving into the cheap controller category

I believe they're just delaying Serato Intro support to squeeze two press releases out of it. Remember when the Ergo was "made for VirtualDJ?" This thing has Serato Intro written all over it.

I believe there's a big point a lot of you are missing. Both the WeGo and the ErGO are aimed at the beginner market. They aren't looking at things like sending HID over wifi to make club changeovers easier, or providing the same platter feel as the higher end offerings. Pioneer is seeing the same thing everyone else in the industry is seeing - and that's the insane amount of growth of DJ MIDI controllers at the low end of the spectrum. Pioneer wants a piece of the action.

Not only is this a new revenue stream for the company, but there's something else important going on. In the last couple years, there has been a total elimination of what we'll call an industry standard at the entry level. New DJs don't automatically end up with Technics or Pioneer or Denon. More typically now they end up with something like Numark or Reloop. This is important to note, because it means that for new DJs, Pioneer is no longer an aspirational brand. Getting back into the entry level and putting their name back into the beginner DJ dialog is a smart move. And now Pioneer has an ecosystem that can hand-hold a user from the "my first controller" stage all the way to the "rock the club" stage.

I blame the USA

Whatever the build quality, it's a toy aimed at people who don't dj but have seen " like, the huge explosion of edm"

I blame the USA

I gotta say, controller aside, I'm most surprised at the software choice.

Given their relationship with Mixvibes on Rekordbox and the fact that the database can be read in either software it would have seemed like a more obvious choice to get newbies into the Pioneer eco-system.

I believe there's a big point a lot of you are missing. Both the WeGo and the ErGO are aimed at the beginner market. They aren't looking at things like sending HID over wifi to make club changeovers easier, or providing the same platter feel as the higher end offerings. Pioneer is seeing the same thing everyone else in the industry is seeing - and that's the insane amount of growth of DJ MIDI controllers at the low end of the spectrum. Pioneer wants a piece of the action.

Not only is this a new revenue stream for the company, but there's something else important going on. In the last couple years, there has been a total elimination of what we'll call an industry standard at the entry level. New DJs don't automatically end up with Technics or Pioneer or Denon. More typically now they end up with something like Numark or Reloop. This is important to note, because it means that for new DJs, Pioneer is no longer an aspirational brand. Getting back into the entry level and putting their name back into the beginner DJ dialog is a smart move. And now Pioneer has an ecosystem that can hand-hold a user from the "my first controller" stage all the way to the "rock the club" stage.

I'm super relaxed here, guy. I've owned pioneer DJ gear for longer than you've been tenting your pants over your collection of pioneer spec sheets. I still have my original DJM300s that I bought new not long after initial release.

Admit it, the only reason you have commented is because you feel the need to defend the precious Pioneer brand. You are quite the fanboy in shining armour.

the ddj-t1/s1 both are around $1400AUS for that much coin you could almost get the cdj400 & djm400 bundle at $1600AUS "street price" what is hard to take is the bundle has higher quality components throughout and runs standalone with usb/cd or as a HID controller...

Relax, you can stop bashing everything Pioneer now, you can finally afford one of their products.

I really enjoy seeing threads like these, if only to see all of the representatives of competing soft/hardware get all antsy about it, or for brand haters slamming it without even seeing as much as a thumbnail picture of it.

why? because it has pioneer written on it?

Thats the only reason this piece of shit is even getting a look in.

What sort of "bugs" are we talkin? if you mean something like a cockroach that may not be so hard, but a honey bee or a wasp no way I'm catching 300 of those just to give to Pioneer LOL