Scarlett 2i2/Audio 2 Debate - Mixtrack/Pro

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Scarlett 2i2/Audio 2 Debate - Mixtrack/Pro
Posted on: 03.02.2013 by Jody Reebel
Call me stupid, and start a flame war, but I never seem to find a need to use "headphone cue", in my sets... I beatmatch, but like my tempos are all over the place, so most the time I am either filtering out a break down, to bring in another, or hard slamming drops....

Even when I beatmatch two tempos, (I.E. 140/140, or like 125/128) I have cue markers, and I can judge pretty well, when I need to mix in/out.... (4 counts per bar...), so I just tap my finger on the side of my controller, and that helps me figure out, when I need to mix in/out....

As everyone knows, the Scarlett 2i2, is a 2 in/out, but it shares the same output, across... The Audio 2, has a dedicated "cue" feature, due to the signal being split.... I could however split the 1/4" out the back of my Scarlett, into 2x Mono outs, and have headphone cue like that, but if I can do stereo, I will....

I currently use an MPK Mini to DJ, so my next investment might as well be an Audio 2, cause even if I would get a Mixtrack Pro, the onboard would probably, be worse, than even my 2i2... For the same price as the Mix Track Pro almost (more or less (regular) Mixtrack), I could get a Audio 2, and just keep using my MPK Mini, until I can save for an S2, cause what I have works for me, at the end of the day... I do wish I had more knobs, cause some things I have to mouse click, due to only having 8 knobs, but it works out okay I guess...
Jody Reebel
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Yes and no. Generally the DJ Tech stuff with audio interfaces is in the same pricerange as the Numark and Hercules stuff, which I wouldn't recommend it over. Their budget MIDI-only controllers, like the CDJ101, can be picked up for peanuts if you find the right supplier.

If you want a decent audio interface and a controller and have a budget of around
Doreen Schurle
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by SMOR3S
That looks quite nice... How do you guys like the DJ tech gear? Would you recommend it over, per say the BCD 3000, if there is something in that price range?
Yes and no. Generally the DJ Tech stuff with audio interfaces is in the same pricerange as the Numark and Hercules stuff, which I wouldn't recommend it over. Their budget MIDI-only controllers, like the CDJ101, can be picked up for peanuts if you find the right supplier.

If you want a decent audio interface and a controller and have a budget of around
Doreen Schurle
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by SMOR3S

Here's that DJ Tech controller btw.. http://www.savinglots.com/lotprod.as...FYdT4AodZmoAqA

I actually like the Orange :3
That's actually a SLIGHTLY different version, the updated one with the better platters and a proper FX section.

I've got the mini versions of that, the CDJ 101:



Haven't used them for a while since I've had my Reloops, but they're probably the nicest little transport controllers out there for the money...
Jody Reebel
10.02.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Mono is never a better option; some tracks have parts only audible on one channel, club sound systems typically use Joint Stereo rather than Mono, which combines both channels into a single channel for ouput from the amp. Even in that situation, you'll STILL want to be pushing a stereo signal into the soundboard otherwise something may be lost.
Oh, I did not know this O_o... Well okay then, scratch the external mixer path, I guess I am going to have to get a dj controller then... Wish someone around here was selling a Mixtrack Pro, or a BCD3000 for cheap :/
Jody Reebel
10.02.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
make a decision son!
Ya I am trying to... I want to get an actual mixer, but my AI is a 2i2, so I would only be playing in "mono", I am debating, whether that would be a good/bad thing, in all situations... I prefer to mix in stereo, but at the club, mono would be a better option... I have a hard time convincing my self...

*Side NOTE* scratch the BCD3000 thing, cause the dude on craigslist, never responded...
Jody Reebel
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
grab the bcd. at that price once you grow out of it in 3 months or so you wont be losing an investment .
Ya for $30, it seems fine :3
Jody Reebel
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Yes and no. Generally the DJ Tech stuff with audio interfaces is in the same pricerange as the Numark and Hercules stuff, which I wouldn't recommend it over. Their budget MIDI-only controllers, like the CDJ101, can be picked up for peanuts if you find the right supplier.

If you want a decent audio interface and a controller and have a budget of around
Doreen Schurle
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by SMOR3S
Found a BCD3000 for $30 on Craigslist...

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/msg/3525325321.html
For 30 bucks, get the BCD. It'll get you started in the field of controllerism nicely
Doreen Schurle
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by SMOR3S
That looks quite nice... How do you guys like the DJ tech gear? Would you recommend it over, per say the BCD 3000, if there is something in that price range?
Yes and no. Generally the DJ Tech stuff with audio interfaces is in the same pricerange as the Numark and Hercules stuff, which I wouldn't recommend it over. Their budget MIDI-only controllers, like the CDJ101, can be picked up for peanuts if you find the right supplier.

If you want a decent audio interface and a controller and have a budget of around
Jody Reebel
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
That's actually a SLIGHTLY different version, the updated one with the better platters and a proper FX section.

I've got the mini versions of that, the CDJ 101:
That looks quite nice... How do you guys like the DJ tech gear? Would you recommend it over, per say the BCD 3000, if there is something in that price range?
Doreen Schurle
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by SMOR3S

Here's that DJ Tech controller btw.. http://www.savinglots.com/lotprod.as...FYdT4AodZmoAqA

I actually like the Orange :3
That's actually a SLIGHTLY different version, the updated one with the better platters and a proper FX section.

I've got the mini versions of that, the CDJ 101:



Haven't used them for a while since I've had my Reloops, but they're probably the nicest little transport controllers out there for the money...
Jody Reebel
10.02.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Mono is never a better option; some tracks have parts only audible on one channel, club sound systems typically use Joint Stereo rather than Mono, which combines both channels into a single channel for ouput from the amp. Even in that situation, you'll STILL want to be pushing a stereo signal into the soundboard otherwise something may be lost.
Oh, I did not know this O_o... Well okay then, scratch the external mixer path, I guess I am going to have to get a dj controller then... Wish someone around here was selling a Mixtrack Pro, or a BCD3000 for cheap :/
Doreen Schurle
10.02.2013		Mono is never a better option; some tracks have parts only audible on one channel, club sound systems typically use Joint Stereo rather than Mono, which combines both channels into a single channel for ouput from the amp. Even in that situation, you'll STILL want to be pushing a stereo signal into the soundboard otherwise something may be lost.
Jody Reebel
10.02.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
make a decision son!
Ya I am trying to... I want to get an actual mixer, but my AI is a 2i2, so I would only be playing in "mono", I am debating, whether that would be a good/bad thing, in all situations... I prefer to mix in stereo, but at the club, mono would be a better option... I have a hard time convincing my self...

*Side NOTE* scratch the BCD3000 thing, cause the dude on craigslist, never responded...
Latoria Kavulich
08.02.2013		make a decision son!
Jody Reebel
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
grab the bcd. at that price once you grow out of it in 3 months or so you wont be losing an investment .
Ya for $30, it seems fine :3
Latoria Kavulich
08.02.2013		grab the bcd. at that price once you grow out of it in 3 months or so you wont be losing an investment .
Jody Reebel
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Yes and no. Generally the DJ Tech stuff with audio interfaces is in the same pricerange as the Numark and Hercules stuff, which I wouldn't recommend it over. Their budget MIDI-only controllers, like the CDJ101, can be picked up for peanuts if you find the right supplier.

If you want a decent audio interface and a controller and have a budget of around
Doreen Schurle
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by SMOR3S
Found a BCD3000 for $30 on Craigslist...

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/msg/3525325321.html
For 30 bucks, get the BCD. It'll get you started in the field of controllerism nicely
Doreen Schurle
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by SMOR3S
That looks quite nice... How do you guys like the DJ tech gear? Would you recommend it over, per say the BCD 3000, if there is something in that price range?
Yes and no. Generally the DJ Tech stuff with audio interfaces is in the same pricerange as the Numark and Hercules stuff, which I wouldn't recommend it over. Their budget MIDI-only controllers, like the CDJ101, can be picked up for peanuts if you find the right supplier.

If you want a decent audio interface and a controller and have a budget of around
Jody Reebel
08.02.2013		Found a BCD3000 for $30 on Craigslist...

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/msg/3525325321.html
Jody Reebel
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
That's actually a SLIGHTLY different version, the updated one with the better platters and a proper FX section.

I've got the mini versions of that, the CDJ 101:
That looks quite nice... How do you guys like the DJ tech gear? Would you recommend it over, per say the BCD 3000, if there is something in that price range?
Doreen Schurle
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by SMOR3S

Here's that DJ Tech controller btw.. http://www.savinglots.com/lotprod.as...FYdT4AodZmoAqA

I actually like the Orange :3
That's actually a SLIGHTLY different version, the updated one with the better platters and a proper FX section.

I've got the mini versions of that, the CDJ 101:



Haven't used them for a while since I've had my Reloops, but they're probably the nicest little transport controllers out there for the money...
Jody Reebel
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
I tell you what, some of the DJ-Tech gear is absolutely fantastic... seen this?

Wow, that's beautiful @_@.

Here's that DJ Tech controller btw.. http://www.savinglots.com/lotprod.as...FYdT4AodZmoAqA

I actually like the Orange :3
Doreen Schurle
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
a lot prettier than this. i used one of these and a desktop with a 5.1 ch internal soundcard

Gotta start somewhere bud, peace.
I tell you what, some of the DJ-Tech gear is absolutely fantastic... seen this?

Jody Reebel
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
kept me safe when i was jogging at evening .
LOL, tie it to your bike spokes!
Latoria Kavulich
08.02.2013		kept me safe when i was jogging at evening .
Jody Reebel
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
a lot prettier than this. i used one of these and a desktop with a 5.1 ch internal soundcard



Gotta start somewhere bud, peace.
Holy shit that is bright... I couldn't DJ with that haha, I would go blind from the sheer brightness of it....
Latoria Kavulich
08.02.2013		a lot prettier than this. i used one of these and a desktop with a 5.1 ch internal soundcard



Gotta start somewhere bud, peace.
Jody Reebel
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Get the BCD3000, at that price it's a perfect starter controller and will do EXACTLY the same job as the Audio 2, but for less money
Originally Posted by Jester
BCD 3000 is still the best entry level controller imo. Pretty dated now but still does the job
I am telling my self to get one, but god is it ugly haha... I really need to get a controller with headphone cue ability, and pitch faders, so I might look into getting the BCD3000.... Mixtrack Pro seems to be around the same prince also...
Latoria Kavulich
08.02.2013		BCD 3000 is still the best entry level controller imo. Pretty dated now but still does the job
Doreen Schurle
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by SMOR3S
So forget about a new mixer, and just keep djing with my MPK mini for now, and get an audio 2? :3

Thanks!
Get the BCD3000, at that price it's a perfect starter controller and will do EXACTLY the same job as the Audio 2, but for less money
Jody Reebel
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
i would go for the audio 2 mate. if you have access to a 2 channel mixer at least you can monitor off that, the only thing with the audio 2 is you need to use a jack>rca adaptor.... or if you dont have a mixer, set one channel as the master and you can plug your phones into the other out to monitor.
So forget about a new mixer, and just keep djing with my MPK mini for now, and get an audio 2? :3

Thanks!
Latoria Kavulich
08.02.2013		i would go for the audio 2 mate. if you have access to a 2 channel mixer at least you can monitor off that, the only thing with the audio 2 is you need to use a jack>rca adaptor.... or if you dont have a mixer, set one channel as the master and you can plug your phones into the other out to monitor.
Jody Reebel
07.02.2013		@ mdcdesign

What was that thing about "Aggregate" you were saying? I am actually interested in trying this out, cause what I could do (if what you were saying is correct). I could do use one of these: Cable, and route that out the back of my 2i2, from one of the 1/4" jacks, since it's dual (stereo), my monitors would then be in Mono, so then I could use my headphones out the front as cue....

If you could explain a bit more about this, I would appreciate it!

Thanks!
Jody Reebel
07.02.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Buy that BCD3000; it's a fully fledged Traktor-compatible controller and audio interface. What you're doing at the moment isn't DJing, it's being a human jukebox lol.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store...47-i2777452.gc
haha, I wouldn't really call it, being a human jukebox, cause I still mix in/out, and loop in/out parts of the song, but beatmatching I am minimal with...
Doreen Schurle
07.02.2013		Buy that BCD3000; it's a fully fledged Traktor-compatible controller and audio interface. What you're doing at the moment isn't DJing, it's being a human jukebox lol.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store...47-i2777452.gc
Jody Reebel
07.02.2013
Originally Posted by Ed Paris
you should start beatmatching! that
Matt Kane
07.02.2013
Originally Posted by SMOR3S
I am minimal, I do admit... I am not as good as some of the guys around here... I don't really beatmatch, cause I tend to either

#1 play two tracks that are same tempo already

or

#2 play two different tempo tracks, but hard slam a drop/go into a break down to transition in another track...

I am not a veteran DJ, but I am learning, thus why I DJ with my MPK Mini, that doubles as my production midi controller...
you should start beatmatching! that
Jody Reebel
07.02.2013
Originally Posted by Ed Paris
but tell me. how can you listen when you only have the master? this doesn

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