Dubspot online training/ courses - good or bad?
Dubspot online training/ courses - good or bad? Posted on: 20.03.2011 by Rey Holubar Hi,Being a beginner, I am looking for good ways to learn the DJ profession and I know going to school, seminars, etc. or even getting a mentor is the fastest way to learn. My problem, I live in the boonies in Germany and finding such things is well, near impossible. Dubspot has online courses that look interesting, but you don't get any feel for what they are really offering on their web site and if they really can help for the price. (they aren't cheap). Has anyone of you taken one of their online courses, whether it be for DJing or production? How was it? How was the experience? scamo | |
| Rita Debar 21.04.2011 | I went to school for "studio recording", it was at my community college about 6 or 7 years ago. I don't really remember any of it but i know the class i took the most from was the Music Theory class. Once you learn the keys you can pick on the rest of your own. My kiss of death was the internship i had. I was there for 6 months before i left, i that 6 month span i never touch a piece of gear.... |
| Lynette Leitenberger 21.04.2011 | Im currently doing a course with dubspot online and i have done one with point blank i went to london school of sound and have viseted several SAE's No comparison Dubspot is the best thing i have ever done . Point Blank was boring the tutors were average. Dubspot has cool artist im doing traktor course at the moment and my tutors are Shiftee and Endo and endo comes on 3 days a week for an hour to ask anything its insane im learning more in my own home than EVER before the videos are fun not booring and more importantly all the tutors at dubspot make really good music and have releases. DUBSPOT ALL DAY LONG!! most fun i have had learning the support is there for you and you not only learn from tutors but also classmates. Im doing Maschine Course Logic and Essential Music foundation. they have literally changed everything for me , Also SAE is more for sound engineers |
| Vernetta Gunther 23.03.2011 | Hey, Point Blank Music School offer a number of free sample courses, these can also be combined with their other youtube tutorial videos. I would reccomend signing up for the free Sample Course and seeing how that goes. http://www.pointblankonline.net/dj-a...---ableton.php http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50zCM...el_video_title |
| Rey Holubar 21.03.2011 | Thanks mostapha. Nice post. scamo |
| Dorie Scelzo 21.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by scamo
But, dance music has always been a seat-of-the-pants DIY kind of thing. What happened with its evolution is a great part of the reason some people believe controllerism is the future. I believe they're full of crap, because I haven't heard a controllerist routine that didn't sound like a pregnant whale being put through a blender. But |
| Maisie Marras 21.03.2011 | "I'd like to see some more of him actually DJing. I haven't seemed to find any." lately he's been going on ustream once or twice a month. sub to his youtube to catch the temporary videos he puts up as a reminder. also, watch his gig logs. not a lot of mixing but meh |
| Rey Holubar 21.03.2011 | Interesting. Thanks for the tips. Doesn't look like anyone has actually taken a course. Hmm... I've already viewed a lot of ellaskinz vids. I like how he makes his videos anywhere and everywhere (in his house?). Lickable clinks anyone? I'd like to see some more of him actually DJing. I haven't seemed to find any. Over the years, I've learned though, if you learn the basics wrong, you'll probably end up with (bad) habits, that will hamper more than help your success. I am pretty sure that also goes for digital DJing and mixing music. It is just one of those facts of life. But if you learn from the best or the with best possible oppotunities, you'll have a better chance of learning the right ways. That is what I am interested in. I will take you guys up on your advice to come here with specific questions. I like the community here already. Thanks! scamo edit/ p.s. ehem....maybe a business idea for Ean? Ean Goldens online DJ seminars? Where the seminars are a bit more in depth and more structured and have more material to learn and practise with??? For instance, I'd like to see videos like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYd_I2nx3Xc but also be able to get the music and clips try to do accomplish the same as what the video tries to teach. (with what ever tools I may have at my disposal) |
| Matha Obray 20.03.2011 | Ellaskinz has taught me ALOT of what i know on youtube. I love that guy. |
| Belen Wermes 20.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
their free articles are hit and miss. i've seen a few really great ones and a few really well, not so great ones haha. the last one i saw was about using vocal samples to create melodies and well, that was pretty much a waste of time. there's a local guy, vespers who puts out really amazing tutorials on producing for free that anyone who's interested should definitely checkout. just youtube search "vespers". |
| Dorie Scelzo 20.03.2011 | I haven't been impressed with what I've seen of dubspot's free stuff. If their paid stuff is the same level of instructors and knowledge, it's a complete rip off. Most of that, though, is based on DJ Endo, who seems like a complete hack. Though if what you want is to learn the most technically efficient way of clipping your sound card outputs with Traktor or Ableton while being told Mixed in Key's marketing copy as a class in harmonic mixing |
| Belen Wermes 20.03.2011 | i've been into producing for a long time, longer than online tutorials have been available - investing time and money into a program like dubspot's isn't for me either. but that's me - some people are better than others at teaching themselves skills, not everyone can get a proper education from just trial and error, checking out online tutorials and lurking on community s. but i believe a program like dubspot's could be very beneficial for the right student depending on what experience they have and how they learn. |
| Danae Dumler 20.03.2011 | No question at all you will learn a ton from these courses, and the organization and overall sense of purpose will beat what you can find for free on youtube. But the price is insane for online instruction basically through videos. It's only a minor savings over the in-person sessions, which will offer you far more opportunity to interact with instructors. (It's not even clear to me whether you can interact with the instructors at all or not in the online version; if you can't, it's definitely not worth it, I'm guessing you get at least limited email contact). The Dubspot people really know their shit, esp as regards Ableton (I've been to a couple of their sessions in LA), but if I'm going to pay that much for instruction I'm going to want something of a live instructor experience, even if it's online. So I agree with others here - check out what you can on youtube, and use community s like this one to ask your questions and move forward. If you find you want a much more structured experience, and you can afford it, then maybe believe about spending money on classes like these. I'm a huge advocate of structured educational experiences in general but I believe the price on this one (at least for the online courses) is a bit high. |
| Carlee Pickard 20.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by duerr
I personally - even if I could afford it - would not pay for Dubspots training. I'd stick with what the others suggested. Honestly the DJTT community is also a great place to come to when you get stuck if you're learning by yourself simply via YouTube. We have a wealth of knowledge on the community s and if you poke and prod at the right people they will have a plethora of wealth (knowledge wise) to throw your way. You just have to do your own research, and ask the right questions. Happy hunting! |
| Belen Wermes 20.03.2011 | the production courses look cool. expensive but cool. from what i read it not only shows you the ropes of the software, music theory and production techniques but it's setup in such a way that by the end of it you'll have a releasable EP created under the guidance of the instructors. if it is as good as it sounds, could be worth it if you have the time and money to invest in it. look into the instructors and see what kind of work they've put out to get a feel for what you'll be able to learn from them. |
| Chas Giraldez 20.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by theory28
Most djs don't go to a school, they either pick it up from other djs, or they buy their own gear and learn from youtube tutorials. If your out in the boonies, I would highly suggest the latter if you are that serious about it. |
| Maisie Marras 20.03.2011 | just look up ellaskins and briansredd on youtube. read the articles here, and come back to the community for any questions |
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