Numark NS7
Numark NS7 Posted on: 05.02.2009 by joe berryhill Does anyone have one yet or even demo'd one in a store, I really want to see a review on this, seems like it's been coming forever.Particularly want to know if it works with TP with 7/14 bit midi (yeah I know still waiting for TP 1.0.3) and not some proprietary protocol, sure it doesn't have enough rotaries but the vci 300 seems to work well with a good TSI. No effects with Itch (well maybe one day fingers crossed) if it could be routed through ableton for effects that would be awesome, it looks like such a primo controller. | |
| Cristian Carmona 11.05.2009 |
Originally Posted by corporation
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| Kayleen Positano 01.10.2009 |
in the long run, i'm definitely gonna want effects with good control/modulation, some kind of drum pad (or anything i can drop samples/loops on), and maaybe a small keyboard (i DJ for a rap band and we'll prolly have a full keyboard onstage anyway) so what kind of components should i look at getting and how exactly will i use them with the NS7?
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| 30.09.2009 | The latest version of VDJ supposedly has platter support. I don't know how good it is, as I don't use it, but youtube videos show that it's capable... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkRU2DO85Cs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GcD1UCZDoI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPIW1N8TEHk I'm waiting on Traktor support myself, Numark has announced it, but NI is staying quiet on the situation... all that's needed is platter support... http://www.numark.com/emails/sep09/n...r.html#updates |
| Cherie Scholar 30.09.2009 | i finally caved in and got one a couple weeks ago when the new shipments came in. and DAMN is it cool. it's an awesome controller obviously (at least at doing the things that it's supposed to) but it just looks unbelievably sexy sittin in my bedroom. the ladies i've brought over were pracically tearing their clothes off by the time i let em mess around with it (aaand maybe a couple actually did... been a good two weeks haha). i'm unbelievably stoked to actually spin some club gigs with it, gotta wait another till the 16th though arggh. i have been looking at switchin to traktor though... itch has made it very easy to learn to scratch, at least to a beginner's level, and i've also gotten a lot better at beatmatchin by ear, but i reaaaally want some integrated effects and sampling. i'd actually prefer to use Virtual DJ because i've used it forever and know all the shortcuts, but i just feel like the software's too unstable and i'm guessing it won't have as good of platter control as traktor. any thoughts on switchin to either? Also: i'm believein the best choice might be to stick with Itch, and get some external components; guess i'm getting addicted to the hands-on feel of the NS7. in the long run, i'm definitely gonna want effects with good control/modulation, some kind of drum pad (or anything i can drop samples/loops on), and maaybe a small keyboard (i DJ for a rap band and we'll prolly have a full keyboard onstage anyway) so what kind of components should i look at getting and how exactly will i use them with the NS7? PS thanks for the help so far y'all; if anyone wants pics/review of the NS7 lemme knoes and i'll whip something up |
| 15.09.2009 | i like mine. waiting for traktor support, which should be right around the corner acording to this Skratchworx article: http://www.skratchworx.com/news3/comments.php?id=1318 "Native Instruments is excited to be working on compatibility with the NS7 for Traktor full versions. Numark will be demoing this support at PLASA and expects a public release later this year." I like it, it's great for scratching and having access to one's cue points right below the platter is fantastic. lack of knobs/buttons to assign to effects is saddening, but understandable to keep a 1:1 ratio in Itch (and sell effect control units later down the line at an extra cost)... once Traktor platter control is working, i plan on using both it and my vci-100 for a 4 deck setup with the vci controlling the effects... if you plan on carrying it out to gigs, it is heavy - not as heavy as 2 techs + mixer, but heavy, i believe about 85lbs. Plus factor in the weight of the carrying case (which i recommend , you don't want to bang up your $1200+ investment...)... |
| Cherie Scholar 15.09.2009 | Thanks gentlemen. Sounds like I might want the NS7 for some ballin stage performances, and perhaps a separate setup for serious remixing and producing. Anyone else know anything bout the NS7? |
| Kayleen Positano 15.09.2009 | From what I can tell, the NS-7 is good for scratching and basic mixing, but not much else. If you're just going to be playing some basic background music and maybe scratching, then the NS-7 would be good for you, especially if you want something impressive looking while you're on stage. If I had the money and didn't already like using traktor, I would probably get an NS-7. As it is, I'm saving for a xone 3d. |
| Random X 15.09.2009 | Sorry for the short answer, but the ns-7 can be mapped in traktor, though not everything works yet.(if I seem to remember ir right) |
| Cherie Scholar 15.09.2009 | Sorry if I'm reposting old news, but I haven't been able to find much about the NS7 on the boards. Here's my story: I DJ parties for fraternitites and sororities around Vanderbilt (student and an ex-frat-social-chair), and have recently been asked to be the stage DJ for a local rap group. I've contemplated upgrading my hardware for a while, and I believe it's about time as I've pretty much been sliding by with Virtual DJ, a junky sound card, crappy controllers here and there (read: x-session pro) and a mouse (this means doing most of my remixing in the bedroom and waiting to drop it live, not exactly ideal). So I'm searching for a pretty serious setup, and the NS7 is looking awfully appealing right now. It's definitely expensive, but I'm going to have to borrow some capital up front anyways so might as well make it worth it. It's solidly built, decently portable, has a built in sound card (not the best I realize, but I guarantee it will get the job done), and controls with the feel of vinyl but the convenience of digital music. Understand that I'm not looking for reasons why the VCI-100 is better; I generally understand the differences, and I'm in the market for a pretty boss-hog control system with (decent) scratching capabilities that's really gonna impress people. I looked for a long time into getting a Serato or similar time-code setup (I like the old school roots, and I certainly don't have the time or money to build up a crate collection) but I just feel like there's a lot of things that could go wrong if I took that route, with all the different components I'd need to buy combined with my relative lack of expertise about tables/mixers and no mentor of any kind. I'm willing to spend (at the worst) a couple hundred dollars more for a single controller. My concerns are this: Serato Itch seems to work very well, but is also very stripped-down function-wise (least that's what I've gathered). Is it possible to use the NS7 with other programs (sounds like the VCI-300 can be mapped with Traktor), or can I pretty much get what I need done in Itch? I'll still do most my big mixes in Acid/ProTools/etc. but I do want some good live remixing functionality; will I have to buy separate components for effects and samples? Also does the NS7 really work as well as it should? Definitely don't wanna waste $1200. Sorry for my life story, but if anyone else has used the NS7 or has any perspective to offer on it, it'd be much appreciated. |
| Xavier Emanuels 11.05.2009 | Please search search for a previous thread before posting - merged |
| Cristian Carmona 11.05.2009 | wow, just went thru the thread on NI, mr quartz put some work in. |
| 11.05.2009 | Dj Quartz has apparently done most of the hard work and has mailed it off to NI for possible inclusion.. info here: http://www.native-instruments.com/fo...ad.php?t=79010 |
| Cristian Carmona 11.05.2009 |
Originally Posted by corporation
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| 11.05.2009 | I have an NS7. I like it. Can't wait to see it maped to traktor scratch pro. currently i route the itch audio from the ns7 booth output into one of my A8dj inputs (5/6) and into deck 3/4 in traktor for effects... i'm a bedroom dj, so i don't care about space and carrying it around... i plan on possibly setting it up like this for future 4 deck support in traktor... |
| Vincent Durrance 11.05.2009 | I believe the size issue is a very important factor. Most clubs have a mixer and 2 decks provided and have limited space for extra stuff. So unless the club is going to use this as their generic gear and provide all the goodies to make it work, its not practical. I prefer something with a smaller footprint and can take advantage of the software that I use. |
| Cristian Carmona 11.05.2009 |
Originally Posted by thebeatworx
TBH the NS7 is a great piece of gear but it failed in one dept...size! The NS7 would require too much dj booth space, and in most places you have very little or none to play with. I cant hate on what the NS7 brings to the table, and Im in love with the motorize platters. |
| Ruiz dB 11.05.2009 | I believe many of the members here at DJTT are into the more electronic genres of club music. So it's easy to see why there are a lot of negative opinions on how the NS-7 or VCI-300 doesn't "fill the gap" between controllerism and DVS solutions... Has anyone ever considered that the NS-7 and VCI-300 may offer something for turntablists and not controllerists? From what I've seen and heard... Theses controller because of their close integration with the software provide much better performace for those who, for example, like to scratch or juggle beats... i.e. Hop-Hop DJ's... Many can say that the NS-7 and VCI-300 don't add anything as far as performance goes because it doesn't have effects... But we have to remember that there is a difference in opinion as how to define "performace" when it comes to turntablists vs. controllerists... I like my VCI-100... but I miss the ability to perform more complex scratches and juggling on the jog wheels... Yeah you can use queue points etc etc to juggle but any hip-hop DJ would argue it doesn't give you the same flexibility as vinyl style juggling... The VCI-100 did NOT get the basics of a turntable down... it did however open the door for controllerism and digital DJing... I believe the NS-7 and the VCI-300 are steps in catering to DJ who want turntable control but want the portability of digital DJing. (Yes, the NS-7 is big... but have you ever tried to carry 4-5 milk crates up a flight of stairs to the DJ booth? I'll take the NS any day...) |
| MadMan Ajms 07.05.2009 | it's the new minimal controller thing..less knobs is cool. back to basics again.. have you seen the new Numark non- eq retro mixers? |
| Antonia Dodgens 07.05.2009 | There are a lot of good points in this thread but at the same time, on topic of effects... This controller is designed with Serato Itch as the preferred software. Itch does not feature any on command effects, thus the Vestax VCI 300 doesn't feature effects either so the effects really aren't too much to be considered. I've played around with the NS7 a little and now own a VCI300 and everything considered the 300 is more practical but the NS7 is a great controller (however it is extreeemely expensive.) |
| Breana Singerman 06.05.2009 | Can you imagine trying to carry that beast around at an airport! >_< |
| Chara Ravine 07.05.2009 | I agree with DJPhaidon. If it's there to fill the gap between midi controllers and vinyl i did't do its job. Effects and other features are missing. It should have more knobs IMO. |
| Fernande Jada 06.05.2009 |
Originally Posted by mpetersen3
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| Hertha Fang 06.05.2009 | I would go with vci-300 over this for sure. Yea the platters are the only plus. |
| Herschel January 06.05.2009 |
Originally Posted by moloch
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| Hertha Fang 06.05.2009 | It looks legit, for a large portion of "djs" looking good and having a good time are more important than performance. Not to say that these aren't important, certainly they are crucial, but for these djs, performance is 2nd and they aren't pushing the envelope on anything. You can get the same performance out of a vci-100, then take the money and buy a nanopad and a nanokontrol and you are pretty set, but the spinning platters look and feel awesome, I won't lie I would love to have one. |
| Rosella Brickell 06.05.2009 | I'm not sure how I feel about this unit. It seems to fill in a gap between controllerism and DVS/Vinyl of which I'm not sure is there. It's still smaller than 2 x 1200 and a controller, but it's so big, clunky and proprietary. I'm not a fan of proprietary, actually, that might have something to do with it... However, the guy in the review seems to be pretty positive about it. The reviewer ar Skratchworx said that he could get the controlls to work, but not the platters. Also, no FX are mentioned, kind of weird, no? |
| Herschel January 06.05.2009 |
Originally Posted by shogster
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| Cristin Petchel 06.05.2009 | So only the platters are working with Traktor?What about all of the features? |
| Julio Gazcon 30.04.2009 | Apparently DJ Quartz has the platters working in Traktor. Great news for anyone looking to buy one. Hopefully we can see Denon controllers (DN-S3700) working in the near future as well. http://www.native-instruments.com/fo...t=79010&page=8 |
| Leota Saniuk 29.04.2009 | Saw this indepth review posted: http://www.skratchworx.com/reviews/ns7.php Seems like quite a package for Itch users .. it sort of also works with Traktor according to the reviewer. |
| Random X 06.02.2009 | Both! Preferably! |
| Mechelle Duncil 06.02.2009 |
Originally Posted by Sasha Solo
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| Merlyn Komula 06.02.2009 | It looks solid !!! I'm in love !!!! |
| Random X 06.02.2009 |
Originally Posted by Sasha Solo
Here's Ean's short review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcgARnZ3glc Starts of with the NS-7 and APC 40. |
| Qarent QD 06.02.2009 | Pssl.com says its coming out in 46 days. http://www.pssl.com/ |
| Cristian Carmona 05.02.2009 | Yeah, im not big on Numark either, I've had a DX06 for about 3 years with no problems. I haven't used it much, but its been good to me when I used it. |
| Merlyn Komula 05.02.2009 | Its actually smaller then a reg setup!!! Dimensions and Weight: 29.875" x 14.875" x 3.75" (WxDxH) 34.6 lbs I do agree with you, personally for me I am a resident dj so this setup works for me or should work for me, and hopefully fits into my already crowded booth!!! I'm gonna see this weekend, I just feel like I can get much more out of the NS7 then my VCI-100, digital is the way and its only geting better, but before I buy I would like a review, like I said its Numark <=== not a fan!!! |
| Cristian Carmona 05.02.2009 | You really have to ask yourself if the NS7 is going to really fit in all the clubs that you play at. I know that most places here in l.a. dont have that much room and to bring in a rig like that is really for resident dj's or (dont kill me) bed room dj's. By the looks of the rig its almost the same size as 2x1200's & a 10 mixer. |
| Merlyn Komula 05.02.2009 | My tax return should cover this awsome toy!!! I spin at a local club/lounge in BK New York, and at the moment use my vci-100, which don't get me wrong is the bomb, but I just want something diff, u know!!! I want my setup to look good aswell as perfrom to the same level, I miss vinyl, and the NS7 would be an amazing setup!!! 34 pounds is a bit on the heavy side plus I believe I might get the case!!! If anyone here beats me to the punch, write your reviews let us know!!!! |
| Cristian Carmona 05.02.2009 | Nice product, but $1300.00 is a little too steep for my pocket book. |
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