Stanton SCS.D3 "DaSkratch"
Stanton SCS.D3 "DaSkratch" Posted on: 11.09.2008 by Santi Taos for those of you who are interested...thanks skratchworx.http://www.skratchworx.com/news3/comments.php?id=1035 | |
| Herschel January 19.05.2009 |
Originally Posted by mike_o
Completely free and open source Office suite http://www.openoffice.org/ |
| Benita Jankauskas 18.05.2009 |
Originally Posted by nem0nic
do you know if this will include the ability to assign the status and change conditions of the lights on the scs3d, like making it stay red after I touch the corner buttons, until I touch it again. |
| Victor BlueDragon 18.10.2009 | Dam Near a phat juggle huh? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hu1v1bzs9o:eek: |
| Diogo Dj Dragão 19.05.2009 | Yeah, they're standard Office documents. You should even be able to open them in Google Docs. |
| Herschel January 19.05.2009 |
Originally Posted by mike_o
Completely free and open source Office suite http://www.openoffice.org/ |
| Benita Jankauskas 18.05.2009 | I found this thing called neo office that reads the files, I'll see what I can come up with. |
| Benita Jankauskas 18.05.2009 | I cant open that file type, is there a pdf available anywhere. I dont have any MS office tools at all. I looked over the jpegs but only halfway understand what I'm looking at. |
| Diogo Dj Dragão 18.05.2009 | You can make the lights do just about anything on the 3 series controllers. Here's the MIDI spec to look over... http://community s.stantondj.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=28 And yes, I do work for them. |
| Benita Jankauskas 18.05.2009 |
Originally Posted by nem0nic
do you know if this will include the ability to assign the status and change conditions of the lights on the scs3d, like making it stay red after I touch the corner buttons, until I touch it again. |
| Diogo Dj Dragão 18.05.2009 | Technically, DaRouter CAN be modified through the creation or editing of presets using Bome's MIDI Translator Pro 1.7 or higher. But if you don't want to mess with that, our DaRouter software comes with 3 generic presets and several application specific presets that you can use to map towards. |
| Benita Jankauskas 16.05.2009 | If you really want to customize the midi messages of the scs3d you will need bomes or another midi translator type of device, the scs3d is dependent on the darouter software which cannot be modified. I use it to control scratches on decadance as a vst in ableton as well as other fx. |
| Glynis Mangona 16.05.2009 | is anybody using the SCS.D3 simply for an effects controller? I was believeing of using it as a secondary controller in Ableton for fx patches only. it seems like you could do a lot of customization with the surfaces to be used like a super fancy x-y pad. i like it over the kaoss line because it's bus powered and i'm more interested in using effects in Ableton...trying to keep the setup mnml of course, i've never even touched one...much less tried to program one, so any feedback is welcome |
| Victor BlueDragon 22.04.2009 | You can do everything with ONE 3D. Mixing, scratching, loops, cues, everything. If you're wondering how mixing (IE crossfading) works, here's the answer. With the unit set to deck A, go into Traktor and change the input fader to a crossfader. Then switch the unit to deck B and again go in and map the input as a crossfader....but on that one check the invert box. What you get is the CF always going towards the deck(regardless of which virtual deck you're controlling), and you can mix into and out of both virtual decks in Traktor. |
| Shavonda Kaufer 21.04.2009 | Urgh. Sorry for the typos. I meant djx 700 mixer. I also have a tiny 4 channel beringer live mixer that ibyried to use as a Dj mixer beforenmy friend gave me the djx 700. LOL gotta be resourceful with limited funds. |
| Shavonda Kaufer 21.04.2009 | I'm kind of a newbie. Used to spin on cdj1000's using cd or serato/traktor. Right now I only have the scs 3d, beringer djx70 mixer, and traktor. Weird setup I know. Mostly hand me downs. I'm waitin to buy gear until after my trip to China for money and weight/backpack space issues. I'm taking a break from work and LA and really want to spend mydown time plaing around with music. So. The ideal map scheme would be to do some simple mixing but still sufficient enough to make it work at a house party kinda scenario. I only have 1 scs 3d. Would that be a pain in the butt or should I get another controller of some sort? What would be good? Thanks so mug for replying !!!! Xo Zin |
| Diogo Dj Dragão 21.04.2009 | There are several mappings for both old and new Traktor on the Stanton community s. What kind of a mapping are you looking for ? |
| juan garcia 21.04.2009 | you should check out at the stanton SCS.D3 community
, they have a section for that kind of thing. good luck. |
| Shavonda Kaufer 21.04.2009 | Hey guys ! So I bought one last year when it first came out real cheap from a friend at Guitar Center. And.... I COULDN'T MAP IT CORRECTLY WITH TRAKTOR !! I gave up on it soon after. (sorry for shouting) Now I have a blinkie glowie paper wieght sitting in a bag. I'm going on a 2 month train trip to China and believe it would be perfect since its small. Does anyone have a good midi map of this unit for Traktor DJS 3 or Traktor Pro for live ? |
| Hertha Fang 19.04.2009 | That looks straight awesome |
| YURIANA HAYES 19.04.2009 | yeah, the 3D is great (I use 2 of them with Traktor 3.4, but also there is also this beauty: By crucial at 2009-04-18 looks can be deceiving, this is an awesome piece of kit, I use one of these with it's mixer mate the SCS1M with Traktor Pro, and it's the bizz |
| Benita Jankauskas 05.04.2009 |
Originally Posted by charo
totally in love with it, no regrets on buying it. a few facts to be aware of though. Deckadance does not map controls as a normal VST would. it maps all parameters directly to decadance through the GUI, there are no little black arrows that show parameters like other VST's in ableton, this means that you cannot use multiple instances as they will all respond to the same midi commands. midi commands are held in decadance itself, not in ableton, so if you put 2 instances of decadance on 2 tracks you CANNOT give them separate midi commands. the benefit to this is that any set you drop decadance into will already have all midi assignments in place. changes made to decadance midi assignments in standalone mode will be changed in VST use, midi assignment changes made in VST mode will be changed in standalone mode. those are the major ones off the top of my head. |
| juan garcia 05.04.2009 | cool thanks, downloading that mix and will check it out. how do you like deckadance as a vst in ableton? i haven't heard a whole lot of real world experience about it. |
| Benita Jankauskas 05.04.2009 | here is a little re-up of the mixset. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DY9JAP2G basically it goes like this, the outer ring of the dascratch can be assigned to one deck (A), while the center line going up and down the center of the ring can be assigned to another deck (B), both the outer ring and the center line have midi messages for contact on/off, and another message for forward and backward. the only catch is if you are going around the outer ring and you accidentally cross the stripe in the center, it happens sometimes. using this setup for sample scratching only in Deckadance as a VST is perfect as my main beat is not controlled by deckadance so this will not kill my mix, just scratch both samples at once, its awesome. If you were straight 2/4 deck DJ'ing it could be a very risky setup as crossing over to touch the center line would scratch your playing record. I use a combination of pitch shifters and grain delay for my scratch performance instrument thing, you'll hear it.(not deckadance for sample scratches, but the other synth style scratch effect in the mix) I mix 2 channels of bass kik/major drum parts with 2 channels for cymbals, congas, tablas, shakers etc..., then a channel for all my major basses, then 2 tracks for my synths samples and leads. I have an 2 channel setup for my scratch style performance tools(1 with deckadance as an instrument, and one with synth samples looping through my pitch shifters), and 2 utility channels routing different FX paths with one master send/return channel. Rockin on a Remote SL 25 w/ a X-Session Pro and a stanton SCS.3D DaScratch, ultralight MKIII and a white macbook. here you go. with the dascratch in FX mode you have 3 vertical sliders, the left slider I assign to the first pitch shifter and use that as a range control. That way whatever pitch of synth sample I feed through this effect, I can set it's preliminary range on the first slider/pitch shifter. then the second pitch shifter is assigned to the middle slider, which is what I actually scratch on so to speak. no matter what sound you feed through the 2 pitch shifters you can use the first one to set a range control for how far up or down the second one will reach so if you hit a frequency you don't like, too high & squeely or too low & distorting, you can adjust your pitch range with the touch of your finger on the slider just next to the scratch slider in the center. the camel phat at the beginning is set to a comb filter at %0 wet and %100 dry, the wet/dry is assigned to an LFO with a sine wave and a %100 level. then the button for the LFO on/off is assigned to one of the dascratch's four corner buttons, so I can turn on/off an extra texture sweep within my scratch by just throwing my finger out and tapping the corner contact point. the third slider is assigned to the delay wet/dry and feedback amounts so I can sweep my delay intensity in and out just perfectly along with my pitch slides. the upper left slider for volume is assigned to the tracks compressor out level to act as a master volume while the actual track volume control is assigned to an m-audio x-session pro crossfader for, well, crossfading of course. the above instructions are the current or "new" method, the old way I had 3 or 4 fx throughout the chain I could turn on or off, but they all created distortion and degraded the scratch quality. your best off getting different textures from a variety of different synth samples as oppose to FX in the scratch chain. also, send the audio out to another channel and then out to the master, if you put your delay on the same track your scratching with it will cut out the delay with the fader (vol) cuts. so send the synth loops through the scratch channel and then to another audio channel and place your delay on the second channel. Michael O'Hagan if you have any other questions you can hit me up here, or here [email protected] www.myspace.com/michaelohagan912 or of course here at DJTT.com |
| juan garcia 05.04.2009 |
Originally Posted by mike_o
can u describe your deck 1 deck 2 deckadance control more please? |
| Jacque Divinity 05.04.2009 | fosters is shit anyway... now coopers pale ale - thats worth stealing!! :-) |
| Hertha Fang 04.03.2009 |
Originally Posted by BentoSan
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| Benita Jankauskas 03.03.2009 | I own one and love it, I run it through bomes midi translator and have created about a hundred different controls on it, I love it, I actually found a way to map both decks in deckadance to the same surface at the same time, scrtch one deck on the ring around the edge, and scratch the other deck with the stripe in the middle, check this set out, all the sample based scratches were done on the dascratch, and I setup the FX panel controls to control the pitch sweep on my "almost a scratch" synth tool. BUY ONE=NO REGRETS AT ALL!! I only use deckadance as a vst in live to scratch samples with, but this thing has been great. https://rcpt.yousendit.com/659728955...c550dd5ccefc12 |
| Xavier Emanuels 03.03.2009 | One is currently being worked on by myself - waiting for Stanton to get me a second unit out so i can do a really decent video, also doing some custom mappings so you will just have to wait on this one. When it does go up however, you can expect it to be a top quality review |
| Hertha Fang 02.03.2009 | To Bento and DJTT community, I am really anxious to buy the dascratch after watching some poor video reviews of it on youtube, but was hoping to see your review first. Does anyone know when Bento's long awaited Dascratch review is out, or have any insight/experience with the thing, aside from the obvious features, what have you done with yours? Also how does scratching actually sound with it (that one is mostly curiousity, since I don't expect it to be very useful for scratching). |
| Random X 29.10.2008 | w00t, you guys have Scot Hobbs? :eek: That's awesome dude! |
| Diogo Dj Dragão 29.10.2008 | Before I answer, you should know that I work for Stanton and helped develop the 3d. So yes, I have used it extensively. While I quite like the 3d because it's so flexible, I'll also acknowledge that alot of people don't like either modality OR touch surface controllers. I can tell you that since I started using the 3d, I've had a Behringer Nano and a Feena FMDJ9303 that have been awfully lonely. The coolest thing about the 3d isn't even "out yet" - which is the community that is going to be based around preset programming for it. We're just waiting on an update to MTP before we open the floodgates. When that happens, I know the preset scene around the SCS.3d will grow fast. We have some pretty heavy hitters programming the presets right now (including Scott Hobbs, creator of the Attigo), so good things are in the works. I personally am not a fan of smaller controllers as the base for my kit. I have a more traditional setup based on a DVS and turntables. I probably wont switch over to full MIDI until we're done with the SCS1 stuff. But I've used the 3d on apps ranging from Live to misc DJ software to DAWs like ProTools. It has it's uses in all of them. |
| Riccardo Pierini 29.10.2008 | Yeah I would like to know too. Would you advise as your first controller to get a "meets every needs" controller like the Novations or use something like this if we want to use it live with a program like Serato. You believe it would be worthwhile to manually use a template on the Stanton for a program like Ableton or is that a waste of time? |
| Roger Gomez 29.10.2008 | I have been looking into finding a controller to supplement my VCI-SE with Traktor for effects, loops, beat jumps and easier control for decks C&D, I wonder if this controller could be the ticket. Nem0nic have you had a chance to use it in practice yet? If so what are your thought in terms of usability, and potential for configuring for advanced manipulation of effects in particular. |
| Random X 17.10.2008 |
Originally Posted by nem0nic
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| Nick Ross 17.10.2008 | Bento...what's your insight on Da Scratch? |
| Diogo Dj Dragão 19.09.2008 |
I want to start seeing controllers that really believe about a DJ's workflow and not just try and control everything off of one cool touch area.
This is NOT a one size fits all - meets every need controller. Obviously. You need to stop believeing like this should be the controller that takes the place of the rest of your kit. Why is it so hard for you to believe about this as a simple controller, yet you don't have the same problem with something like the Trigger Finger or the Monome? For that matter, why would you even consider replacing everything you have with one of these? What it is is a cool little modal controller that (in my case) is going to take the place of a Behringer Nano and give me a shitload of additional functionality. All you need to do is take one look at it being used with Serato and you'll see it's true power. One of our testers is even using it for 5.1 panning in Logic. Show me how you're going to do that on a Trigger Finger or VCI-100 in any way that feels at all intuitive. |
| Hannes Deburchgraeve 19.09.2008 |
Originally Posted by Chilly
... I was helping him with a Traktor/VCI-100 freeze issue. |
| Nick Ross 19.09.2008 |
Originally Posted by mycole
I don't remember my Traktor hanging? Same Chilly tho...pm me a link to the post if possible |
| Hannes Deburchgraeve 19.09.2008 |
Originally Posted by Chilly
...btw, Chilly: did you get that Traktor hang issue worked out? You are the same Chilly as on NI community , right? |
| Nick Ross 19.09.2008 | First off...I say I'm pro FLAMING Secondly I just watched this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad6ya...id=event_87400 Does anyone else believe this thing is severly limited with what you can do? You can't do multiple things at once like you can with something like a VCI-100 or a regular CDJ + Mixer + Traktor Scratch. For instance...I can't play a song, keep it in time by pushing or pulling the track, change the volume, and cut the bass. Oh and I can only control one deck at a time. Anyway...I get it in terms of it being like a 1D...but still...on the 1D I can do all that I mentioned, even looping, without having to change 'scenes'. |
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