2 x dj-tech kontrol one plus stanton 3m

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2 x dj-tech kontrol one plus stanton 3m
Posted on: 22.10.2009 by alfredo moreira
i've got an idea.
i want to make these kontrol one's a lot more portable... like fit in a backpack/laptop case/messanger bag kind of portable.
as they are, they are very very thick, so that they'll sit up at the same height of a standard mixer.
but really, they could be pretty thin, like vci-100 thin. i opened mine up:



i would just need some custom housing for them, what should i use!? aluminum would be awesome, but i wouldnt know where to begin with that.

then i would have a nice little setup like this:



that would fit in a bag
Sona Nebenzahl
19.09.2010
Originally Posted by kilbot
the dj-tech kontrol one feels pretty sturdy. all aluminum housing. i like the jog wheels, and they seem pretty responsive (depending on your latency of course)
i believe i prefer normal knobs for effects, but the endless encoders work just as well. you just have to manually set their sensitivity in your dj software so that they respond as gradual or quick as you want.
all the buttons feel pretty stiff, with a nice click. good or bad depending on what you like.
here's a couple little videos i just made about them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vY41ONByD8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvd2S0POmks
Hey mate,is it possible to re-upload the videos on youtube ?
Victor BlueDragon
13.11.2009
Originally Posted by Paco Loco
It really would not be that hard to cut those cases down by hand, although it might take a while. Definitely do-able with just a hack saw and a hand file...
Cuts metal like a grinder

or a band saw
alfredo moreira
12.11.2009
Originally Posted by fa5ky
you can make a case out of acrylic. check out etsy.com custom section. Post what you need and someone will build it for you. I got 2(12x6x3) cases made for $70.
that's a fantastic idea!
Sherley Ampofo
03.11.2009
Thank you for those videos!! They're some of the best videos I've seen online for this product. Very helpful! After doing more research, here are some pros and cons on this controller:

Pros:
Jog Wheel looks to be pretty nice
Pitch fader looks smooth and long
Rotary dials for switching between decks and FX

Cons:
Size (all that empty space in there really is a bummer)
"Plasticky" buttons (how awesome would this be with arcade buttons on it)
Color scheme is pretty horrible
Build quality looks somewhat cheap (I won't really know this until I buy it)

I'm still on the fence about this controller right now. The new NI Controller that was released today looks awesome, but it doesn't have a full jog wheel, so I'm still trying to decide between the VCI-100 SE, Kontrol One, A&H 1D, or now the NI controller. Oh choices choices.


Originally Posted by kilbot
the dj-tech kontrol one feels pretty sturdy. all aluminum housing. i like the jog wheels, and they seem pretty responsive (depending on your latency of course)
i believe i prefer normal knobs for effects, but the endless encoders work just as well. you just have to manually set their sensitivity in your dj software so that they respond as gradual or quick as you want.
all the buttons feel pretty stiff, with a nice click. good or bad depending on what you like.
here's a couple little videos i just made about them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vY41ONByD8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvd2S0POmks
alfredo moreira
19.09.2010
sorry man. i looked around my computer and external drive, and i can't seem to locate those vids anymore
Sona Nebenzahl
19.09.2010
Originally Posted by kilbot
the dj-tech kontrol one feels pretty sturdy. all aluminum housing. i like the jog wheels, and they seem pretty responsive (depending on your latency of course)
i believe i prefer normal knobs for effects, but the endless encoders work just as well. you just have to manually set their sensitivity in your dj software so that they respond as gradual or quick as you want.
all the buttons feel pretty stiff, with a nice click. good or bad depending on what you like.
here's a couple little videos i just made about them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vY41ONByD8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvd2S0POmks
Hey mate,is it possible to re-upload the videos on youtube ?
Logan Lassey
13.11.2009
Yeah a band saw would be perfect - it would take about a minute to do them both on one of those.
Victor BlueDragon
13.11.2009
Originally Posted by Paco Loco
It really would not be that hard to cut those cases down by hand, although it might take a while. Definitely do-able with just a hack saw and a hand file...
Cuts metal like a grinder

or a band saw
Logan Lassey
12.11.2009
It really would not be that hard to cut those cases down by hand, although it might take a while. Definitely do-able with just a hack saw and a hand file...
Yajaira Hibbitts
11.11.2009
for me what i did was combine the whole scs3 system with two xone 1 ds and its working for me. for those who are using scs3 system can try it out with the kontrol one as well. adds alot of depth to controlled parameters on traktor pro.
Sharolyn Narramore
12.11.2009
if you want i can refer you to the seller that made mine. you can sketch out what you want and she'll take care of you. she made a couple of my faceplates.
alfredo moreira
12.11.2009
Originally Posted by fa5ky
you can make a case out of acrylic. check out etsy.com custom section. Post what you need and someone will build it for you. I got 2(12x6x3) cases made for $70.
that's a fantastic idea!
Sharolyn Narramore
09.11.2009
you can make a case out of acrylic. check out etsy.com custom section. Post what you need and someone will build it for you. I got 2(12x6x3) cases made for $70.
Sherley Ampofo
03.11.2009
Thank you for those videos!! They're some of the best videos I've seen online for this product. Very helpful! After doing more research, here are some pros and cons on this controller:

Pros:
Jog Wheel looks to be pretty nice
Pitch fader looks smooth and long
Rotary dials for switching between decks and FX

Cons:
Size (all that empty space in there really is a bummer)
"Plasticky" buttons (how awesome would this be with arcade buttons on it)
Color scheme is pretty horrible
Build quality looks somewhat cheap (I won't really know this until I buy it)

I'm still on the fence about this controller right now. The new NI Controller that was released today looks awesome, but it doesn't have a full jog wheel, so I'm still trying to decide between the VCI-100 SE, Kontrol One, A&H 1D, or now the NI controller. Oh choices choices.


Originally Posted by kilbot
the dj-tech kontrol one feels pretty sturdy. all aluminum housing. i like the jog wheels, and they seem pretty responsive (depending on your latency of course)
i believe i prefer normal knobs for effects, but the endless encoders work just as well. you just have to manually set their sensitivity in your dj software so that they respond as gradual or quick as you want.
all the buttons feel pretty stiff, with a nice click. good or bad depending on what you like.
here's a couple little videos i just made about them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vY41ONByD8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvd2S0POmks
Victor BlueDragon
28.10.2009
put some fangers on that CF!!!!!!
alfredo moreira
28.10.2009
the dj-tech kontrol one feels pretty sturdy. all aluminum housing. i like the jog wheels, and they seem pretty responsive (depending on your latency of course)
i believe i prefer normal knobs for effects, but the endless encoders work just as well. you just have to manually set their sensitivity in your dj software so that they respond as gradual or quick as you want.
all the buttons feel pretty stiff, with a nice click. good or bad depending on what you like.
here's a couple little videos i just made about them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vY41ONByD8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvd2S0POmks
Sherley Ampofo
27.10.2009
Wow that looks like a great mod!!!

I've been believeing about possibly picking up the Kontrol One (I really like the rotary switch which allows you to select individual decks a la VCI-100SE). I haven't seen much about them in these community s or on the web in regards to folks who have actually used them.

How do you guys like the overall feel of the controller? How are buttons, jog wheel, and current mapping they have set up for Traktor Pro?

I'm really on the fence right now and don't know if I should pick up a VCI-100SE, A&H Xone 1D, or one of these Kontrol Ones?

Thanks in advance!
Xavier Emanuels
27.10.2009
wow that really is alot of wasted space !
Personally i hate these overly thick devices they are sooooo not portable - very cool idea with the mod

Look forward to looking at your final product.
Victor BlueDragon
27.10.2009
love it
Latia Pfleider
27.10.2009
maybe you can modify the existing case? chop it down. that leave you with no backup though if mess it up or need warrenty service
Su Nogowski
27.10.2009
Originally Posted by kilbot
took the kontrol one's to a metal shop today...
bad news. they said it would take them about 45 min a piece to get nice clean straight cuts (just cutting off the top portion of the bottom part). so 1 1/2 total, and they charge $100/hr. so it would be $150 just for them to cut the tops off...
Man that is expensive. ive been looking at doing the same thing. I work at a "machine shop" (industrial steel supplier with boilermakers) and i would say definately go aluminium. It'll make the difference in weight if your going for portability.

Here i reckon could have 2 done in 20/25min tops...and @ ~ $40 labour and only a few more $'s for the small amount of material.

45min just to cut the top off sounds pretty steep. They may have over "quoted" so they didn't have to do the job. Just incase they stuffed it.

Keep searching though and posting on what you come with....

good luck
Dolores Sefcovic
26.10.2009
Originally Posted by kilbot
...
i just had a brilliant idea! make my own lego case for each one! haha, thought it might fall apart in my bag.

Thats what superglue is for...
alfredo moreira
26.10.2009
took the kontrol one's to a metal shop today...
bad news. they said it would take them about 45 min a piece to get nice clean straight cuts (just cutting off the top portion of the bottom part). so 1 1/2 total, and they charge $100/hr. so it would be $150 just for them to cut the tops off...

needless to say, i didn't do it.

maybe i can find something in that mouser catalog, that would work for just one unit, and get two of them.
or a custom wood encloser would be pretty sick! these are not skills and trades i know though, so its gonna come down to price basically.

...
i just had a brilliant idea! make my own lego case for each one! haha, thought it might fall apart in my bag.
Latia Pfleider
24.10.2009
I couldnt find any pre built enclosures that were big enough

this 17x13x3 was close but expensive 35$ you might as well go the diy way

prob to small and it has no top to cut out

17x13x2 ac-419
17x13x3 ac-420

pic http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/Bud%...oto/AC-420.jpg

found on page 1892 mouser catalog


http://www.mouser.com/catalog/catalogusd/639/1892.pdf


http://www.mouser.com/Enclosures/Enc...ases/_/N-5g3p/

thats the search but I like to look through it catalog here I never have good luck with that search
alfredo moreira
23.10.2009
aprox 17 3/4 in wide. prolly need at least 13 in deep, a little headroom for the usb connectors to stick out the end. and currently about 4 1/2 in height (this is the part i'm hoping to change!)
what is this mouser catalog you speak of?
Latia Pfleider
23.10.2009
whats the measurements on that setup? I have been looking at the mouser catalog
alfredo moreira
24.10.2009
i really believe the stanton 3m compliments well for a couple of reasons.
first, its a powered usb hub, so all these of these only use up one usb on my laptop.
also, you can use the 3m w/o all that dascratch software. you can just straight program it with midi learn inside traktor or whatever. and the toggle buttons to switch between decks A&C and B&D still work just fine, as well as switching the sliders from eq's or effects.
so for each kontrol one, and each side of the mixer, can all independently switch between decks.

the only catch is that when a kontrol one is on channel 1, it and the 3m will have overlaps of midi messages. but i just use channel 2, 3, and 4 for 3 deck mixing, and the other deck for audio through for mic.
Madlyn Trocino
24.10.2009
WOW ive been meaning to open my Kontol One's to see how much wasted room was underneath. This is frickin great that you posted the pics....THANKS

Its sad that there really isnt a quality small midi mixer that has come down the pike. I like the Stanton and all, but I need something with accual physical knobs and faders.

The X session Pro (Pro?) is the right size but lacks in pretty much every way possible.

And beyond that all the other options are too big...
alfredo moreira
24.10.2009
the wood housing on those Livid instruments is definitely classy!
but there's no way i could pull that off myself O_0
Joannie Brague
23.10.2009
damn links won't work here is a direct link http://www.lividinstruments.com/imag...comp_site2.jpg
Joannie Brague
23.10.2009
Joannie Brague
23.10.2009
Yeah I got get it cut at your local shop or make one out of wood. It would look pretty classy with with a wood housing. much like the livid ohm seen here

which is way easy to make at home since it's just a simple rectangle.
Either way it will look pretty dope. good luck keep us posted
Irvin Cee
23.10.2009
really really really cool idea... it would definitely be the perfect controller!
and when you play in a club, it's just perfect, you put these on top of the CDJs, and your're ready!

I still can't believe that a company like Vestax didn't make a single deck midi controller for about 200
alfredo moreira
23.10.2009
on second thought... i could see about going to a machine/cutting shop, and just have them chop off most of the top portion of buttom section, leaving just enough room for the jog and circuits to fit in there.

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