Kontrol X1/ NI Layer/ Shift LED Brightness Issues
Kontrol X1/ NI Layer/ Shift LED Brightness Issues Posted on: 27.03.2011 by Homer Selgado Okay I hope someone like Padi, or someone equally as savvy has run into this...I have been using modifiers to send LED data for commands where it is difficult to do so otherwise... But I ran into an interesting problem today. For some reason, on the NI protocol layer, the Modifier "out" commands are only "half" lighting the corresponding buttons LED. At first I thought my mapping wasn't working because I couldn't tell that it was getting brighter at all. I have to turn the "off state" brightness on the X1 down to basically off to be able to see these LED's illuminate. But EVERY single other type of LED command lights my buttons up just fine. And it only happens when I'm on the shift layer of the NI protocol layer. The basic layer, and all of the MIDI layer respond exactly as expected. I actually just bought this second X1, and I'm beginning to believe it could be defective. | |
| Homer Selgado 27.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by Michielygil
This sounds promising, I never tried matching the "value" for the "tempo range" modifier option to the "controller range" that tells the LEDs what to do... Will try. |
| Homer Selgado 27.03.2011 | Okay I hope someone like Padi, or someone equally as savvy has run into this... I have been using modifiers to send LED data for commands where it is difficult to do so otherwise... But I ran into an interesting problem today. For some reason, on the NI protocol layer, the Modifier "out" commands are only "half" lighting the corresponding buttons LED. At first I thought my mapping wasn't working because I couldn't tell that it was getting brighter at all. I have to turn the "off state" brightness on the X1 down to basically off to be able to see these LED's illuminate. But EVERY single other type of LED command lights my buttons up just fine. And it only happens when I'm on the shift layer of the NI protocol layer. The basic layer, and all of the MIDI layer respond exactly as expected. I actually just bought this second X1, and I'm beginning to believe it could be defective. |
| Homer Selgado 27.03.2011 |
Originally Posted by Michielygil
This sounds promising, I never tried matching the "value" for the "tempo range" modifier option to the "controller range" that tells the LEDs what to do... Will try. |
| Homer Selgado 27.03.2011 | I use the tap tempo to set the tempo for large adjustments (I ONLY use one X1) and then I use the tempo +/- to get it perfect. In order for the tap tempo to be accurate across a wide tempo range, I need a very large tempo range. But in order to get the +/- tempo to adjust the bpm down to 0.01 accuracy, I need the tempo range to be as small as it can be. So I killed all the effect buttons "shift" functions, as I find them rather useless (especially with the IG mapping on my MIDI layer now) and I am mapping those shift layer buttons (the two rows of 4 at the top) to 4 respective tempo ranges, with LED feedback to show me witch one I am currently on. BUUUUUUUUUUUUT. I just finished fine tuning the modifier based LED scheme, and it actually works really well, hehe. |
| Corey Tronchin 27.03.2011 | try to find posts about led mapping by vangogo, he did a movie about this. if you want to turn a led on or off based on the position of the pitch-fader, the key is in the values in the controller range. you can set a 'add out' for the tempo and pick for example 0.00 to 0.25. this will light the led when you've pitched it on the lowest quarter of the pitch fader. EDIT - sorry, just figured out you're talking about the range. pretty sure you can get them to lit when setting the controller range on the value you desire. for instance the 2% range is probably corresponding with the controller value 0. and the 100% range is corresponding with the controller value 13. set them from 13 to 13 and the led will light when set to 100%. |
| Homer Selgado 27.03.2011 | As another aside... I anyone knows how to map LED feedback to correspond with certain "pitch range" integers, I would love you forever. I am try to map 4 buttons for each deck, each button will change the pitch range to a designated value for that specific button. I would prefer to ditch the retarded modifier stack-up I am building to do this, and use the modifier value "tempo range" for the LED signal, as it seems this should be possible... But no matter how my feeble mind goes about arranging the commands, and no matter what value I pick for the "tempo range" modifier, I cant get it done the simple way. Again, any help would be mucho appreciated! |
| Corey Tronchin 27.03.2011 | I love a good digital monologue from time to time |
| Homer Selgado 27.03.2011 | Bah, figured it out. My trusty NI protocol mapping auto-configuration has suckered me into trusting it too heavily. It autoed the controller range numbers to the wrong numbers, use the correct range numbers, and viola, bright LED's.... |
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