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Help me pick my new setup
Posted on: 16.06.2011 by Percy Keehan
Now from what I have seen is that this thing is pretty much a Numark Omni Control with a better audio interface, more controls, and amazing jog wheels. The only difference from the Reloop Digital Jockey 2 Master Edition is that this cannot be used as a standalone mixer. Most Traktor controllers don't have that anyway so you might as well get this one. Has anybody ever used one of these before? Are they worth it?
Celestine Porebski
21.06.2011
Originally Posted by haze324
you know some of the things that just boggle my mind that I see often on DJTT is that "more" control/controllers are needed. More buttons, more knobs, etc.

Then I go to the baddest evening clubs on South Beach - Liv, Space, Mansion, etc. (look these up). They have headliners playing there every weekend. From Danny Tenaglia, to Roger Sanchez, to Armin Van Buren, etc. You name them and they play here. I'm talking heavyweights. And often times MANY of these folks are playing on two CDJ's and a DJM-800, sometimes three CDJ's. Eric Morillo is the resident on Thursdays and Liv and he's on two CDJ's.

Yet here there is such a desire to have "total control" of what?
Yes, I fail to see the point in that as well. Controls for transport, tempo, browser and mixer functions - then you're all set. Everything else, e.g. FX controls, is a bonus and rather unnecessary, especially when starting out (probably wouldn't want to miss out on loop controls by now, those are just too convenient - but generally I could live without them).
Percy Keehan
20.06.2011
Originally Posted by haze324
you know some of the things that just boggle my mind that I see often on DJTT is that "more" control/controllers are needed. More buttons, more knobs, etc.

Then I go to the baddest evening clubs on South Beach - Liv, Space, Mansion, etc. (look these up). They have headliners playing there every weekend. From Danny Tenaglia, to Roger Sanchez, to Armin Van Buren, etc. You name them and they play here. I'm talking heavyweights. And often times MANY of these folks are playing on two CDJ's and a DJM-800, sometimes three CDJ's. Eric Morillo is the resident on Thursdays and Liv and he's on two CDJ's.

Yet here there is such a desire to have "total control" of what?
i want to be able to nudge every detail of just a few things to make it great. this is really based on effects, beat juggling, and scratching.
Percy Keehan
20.06.2011
Originally Posted by Tha Gooch
Total control over all 8 decks
nah... just 4... im pretty suree... but yes... total control >
Percy Keehan
20.06.2011		Ok so i have read through all my threads and everybodys posts, and I believe my decision is clear. Since I suck at hooking up mixers to my laptop (I barely know how to do it), here is what I will purchase first:

Originally Posted by DJ_Pabloco
-Behringer BCD3000
-Native Instruments Kontrol X1
-2 Numark NDX800s.
-1 or 2 Midi Fighter Classics ( Instant Gratification)

For example:
Then eventually I will buy an external mixer. But this should serve me well for the length of time that I need it.
Percy Keehan
20.06.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
All of your what setup should I get threads have been merged and the title changed to help me pick my new setup. Please don't start another thread on the same subject.
thanx man... helped a lot


and eh the s4 is just not my stlye i mean it has all the features I want but for some reason i just cant stand it. It just doesnt work for me
Percy Keehan
20.06.2011
Originally Posted by 3heads
Not wanting to sound discouraging or anything, but don't you believe you should maybe slow down a little and take a step back? I mean, 1300$ is a shitload of cash to spend for a 13-year-old. I mean at that age, interests/tastes tend to change quite rapidly, so it might be a good idea to not spend as much and go for a less expensive option to learn the basics first and see if it really is what you want to do (and stick with). Also it's an overwhelming amount of controls to get at a single point in time (even more so when you're just starting out) and I believe it would even be counterproductive in regards to learning the really important stuff (song selection, phrasing, ...).



+10000

so... like just a mixer and mayeb the two mfs
Celestine Porebski
21.06.2011
Originally Posted by haze324
you know some of the things that just boggle my mind that I see often on DJTT is that "more" control/controllers are needed. More buttons, more knobs, etc.

Then I go to the baddest evening clubs on South Beach - Liv, Space, Mansion, etc. (look these up). They have headliners playing there every weekend. From Danny Tenaglia, to Roger Sanchez, to Armin Van Buren, etc. You name them and they play here. I'm talking heavyweights. And often times MANY of these folks are playing on two CDJ's and a DJM-800, sometimes three CDJ's. Eric Morillo is the resident on Thursdays and Liv and he's on two CDJ's.

Yet here there is such a desire to have "total control" of what?
Yes, I fail to see the point in that as well. Controls for transport, tempo, browser and mixer functions - then you're all set. Everything else, e.g. FX controls, is a bonus and rather unnecessary, especially when starting out (probably wouldn't want to miss out on loop controls by now, those are just too convenient - but generally I could live without them).
Leeanna Ayla
20.06.2011		I need total control over two decks and one sample deck with MAYBE two slots full. I did one techno mix where I had two regular decks and two sample decks going with five sample slots going at once. It was good and I got some compliments on it, but damn that was nerve racking trying to keep up with all that shit for two hours. I guess if I actually practiced doing that kind of stuff it would be easier.
Percy Keehan
20.06.2011
Originally Posted by haze324
you know some of the things that just boggle my mind that I see often on DJTT is that "more" control/controllers are needed. More buttons, more knobs, etc.

Then I go to the baddest evening clubs on South Beach - Liv, Space, Mansion, etc. (look these up). They have headliners playing there every weekend. From Danny Tenaglia, to Roger Sanchez, to Armin Van Buren, etc. You name them and they play here. I'm talking heavyweights. And often times MANY of these folks are playing on two CDJ's and a DJM-800, sometimes three CDJ's. Eric Morillo is the resident on Thursdays and Liv and he's on two CDJ's.

Yet here there is such a desire to have "total control" of what?
i want to be able to nudge every detail of just a few things to make it great. this is really based on effects, beat juggling, and scratching.
Julissa Serrone
20.06.2011		you know some of the things that just boggle my mind that I see often on DJTT is that "more" control/controllers are needed. More buttons, more knobs, etc.

Then I go to the baddest evening clubs on South Beach - Liv, Space, Mansion, etc. (look these up). They have headliners playing there every weekend. From Danny Tenaglia, to Roger Sanchez, to Armin Van Buren, etc. You name them and they play here. I'm talking heavyweights. And often times MANY of these folks are playing on two CDJ's and a DJM-800, sometimes three CDJ's. Eric Morillo is the resident on Thursdays and Liv and he's on two CDJ's.

Yet here there is such a desire to have "total control" of what?
Percy Keehan
20.06.2011		well it isnt total control over everything in the program... just the stuff im good at.
Marva Cupid
20.06.2011		There is a trade of, expressivness (is that a word.) For total control unless u got to monster controllers like an s4 and a vci and 2 midifighter pros.
Percy Keehan
20.06.2011
Originally Posted by Tha Gooch
Total control over all 8 decks
nah... just 4... im pretty suree... but yes... total control >
Janell Selser
20.06.2011		Total control over all 8 decks
Marva Cupid
20.06.2011		And a vci100 and a midifighter and a audio 4, that way u could get cdma later on, and remember technology is always changing so do go buy last era shit
Julissa Serrone
20.06.2011		4 channel mixer + X1

It's what plenty of pro DJ's play with (Stefano Noferini, Carlo Lio). I just traded my S4 for a DJM-800. Add a midi fighter if your into that kinda of playing.
Percy Keehan
20.06.2011		Ok so i have read through all my threads and everybodys posts, and I believe my decision is clear. Since I suck at hooking up mixers to my laptop (I barely know how to do it), here is what I will purchase first:

Originally Posted by DJ_Pabloco
-Behringer BCD3000
-Native Instruments Kontrol X1
-2 Numark NDX800s.
-1 or 2 Midi Fighter Classics ( Instant Gratification)

For example:
Then eventually I will buy an external mixer. But this should serve me well for the length of time that I need it.
Percy Keehan
20.06.2011		yes i have. and its not like this is just something thats gonna change man. ive been djing for 3 years now. I have gigs in all the little cafes and clubs in this town. I been workin with a Numark M101 mixer and two of my teachers CDJS. pretty lame, but i got use to it. And dont believe i want to spend 1300. I would much prefer it to be about 600. But if i like it, price doesnt matter
Tatum Ansaldo
20.06.2011		have you tried one? When I was 14 I decided I just didn't like iPods and a minidisk player was a much better fit for me. How wrong I was.
Percy Keehan
20.06.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
All of your what setup should I get threads have been merged and the title changed to help me pick my new setup. Please don't start another thread on the same subject.
thanx man... helped a lot


and eh the s4 is just not my stlye i mean it has all the features I want but for some reason i just cant stand it. It just doesnt work for me
Shonda Soulier
20.06.2011		So basically, after all this, you should probably go for what they told you at the beginning...

S4 with MF classic (IG mapping) and some cans.

I haven't been part of any of these threads but I lurked for a day or two. You change your mind at the drop of a hat. You're going to regret buying more gear than you need.

Honestly, for you, a sensible setup would be a 2 channel mixer, Audio 2 DJ, X1, MF. But the S4 gives you room to grow and doesn't look like a hodge-podge of gear. Once you get to that point where you say "I want some CDJs or 1200s" you can just add them alongside your S4.
Leeanna Ayla
20.06.2011		All of your what setup should I get threads have been merged and the title changed to help me pick my new setup. Please don't start another thread on the same subject.
Leeanna Ayla
20.06.2011		If you're not going to get an S4 then get a good mixer with an X1 and a Midi Fighter. You could probably find a used DJM-800 for around $900 and still have enough for the MF and X1.

If it were me and I had $1300 I would seriously look at the DNX-1600. You'll probably need to pick between an X1 or MF to start off with. I believe MF would be the best one to start with, then save another $100 or so and you can get an X1.
Annis Osbourn
20.06.2011		Well, the reloop controllers are not that good, so i would go for the denon on that side. I believe you would be better off with the S4 bu that is your choise mate
Tatum Ansaldo
20.06.2011		No S4 then?
Percy Keehan
20.06.2011
Originally Posted by 3heads
Not wanting to sound discouraging or anything, but don't you believe you should maybe slow down a little and take a step back? I mean, 1300$ is a shitload of cash to spend for a 13-year-old. I mean at that age, interests/tastes tend to change quite rapidly, so it might be a good idea to not spend as much and go for a less expensive option to learn the basics first and see if it really is what you want to do (and stick with). Also it's an overwhelming amount of controls to get at a single point in time (even more so when you're just starting out) and I believe it would even be counterproductive in regards to learning the really important stuff (song selection, phrasing, ...).



+10000

so... like just a mixer and mayeb the two mfs
Celestine Porebski
20.06.2011		Not wanting to sound discouraging or anything, but don't you believe you should maybe slow down a little and take a step back? I mean, 1300$ is a shitload of cash to spend for a 13-year-old. I mean at that age, interests/tastes tend to change quite rapidly, so it might be a good idea to not spend as much and go for a less expensive option to learn the basics first and see if it really is what you want to do (and stick with). Also it's an overwhelming amount of controls to get at a single point in time (even more so when you're just starting out) and I believe it would even be counterproductive in regards to learning the really important stuff (song selection, phrasing, ...).

Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
You should really have stuck to one 'what do you believe of my setup' thread rather than starting a new one every time you have a new idea dude!
+10000
Percy Keehan
20.06.2011
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
You realise we're pretty much having the same conversation twice on 2 different threads?

You should really have stuck to one 'what do you believe of my setup' thread rather than starting a new one every time you have a new idea dude!
lol i know.. im sorry to everyone i just cant keep my mind straight about one idea. except, now i believe i got it.
Tatum Ansaldo
20.06.2011		Both of those that I mentioned would with with those CDXs as well, especially if you got the Scratch upgrade for the S4 to use timecode. And you can always add a MF or X1 later if you wish.
Tatum Ansaldo
20.06.2011
Originally Posted by DJ_Pabloco
not anymore.
You realise we're pretty much having the same conversation twice on 2 different threads?

You should really have stuck to one 'what do you believe of my setup' thread rather than starting a new one every time you have a new idea dude!
Percy Keehan
20.06.2011		true.... hmmmm i shall believe a bit more
Tatum Ansaldo
20.06.2011		That all comes to $1300 and you're not tempted by an S4 or NS6?
Percy Keehan
20.06.2011
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
Have you looked at the DDM-4000?
yea. the m6 is right there in the price range. This is all about $1,300 together and eh im not ready to spend more
Percy Keehan
20.06.2011
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
Since you're already planning to upgrade, and you clearly have a bit of cash to spend, why not go for the reloop or whatever straight away? If you buy the behringer then have to sell it in 3 months and buy something else, you're spending money twice unnecessarily.
not anymore. im going for a mixer two midifighters and a kontrol x1 and the NDX800s. Eventually, a pair of 1200s. sorta like this:

Tatum Ansaldo
20.06.2011		Have you looked at the DDM-4000?
Percy Keehan
20.06.2011
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
Behringer's support for the BCD3000 is pretty much non existent, IMO you can get better controllers for the money.
yea i thought about it and if Im really gonna get two midifighters I told myself i might as well switch out for a mixer. Nothing too pretty, but gets the job done. So i chose the Numark M6. Looks a bit like this:

Tatum Ansaldo
20.06.2011		Behringer's support for the BCD3000 is pretty much non existent, IMO you can get better controllers for the money.
Tatum Ansaldo
20.06.2011		Since you're already planning to upgrade, and you clearly have a bit of cash to spend, why not go for the reloop or whatever straight away? If you buy the behringer then have to sell it in 3 months and buy something else, you're spending money twice unnecessarily.
Percy Keehan
20.06.2011
Originally Posted by mostapha
I like what you're going for and see why you'd pick it over an NS6 or S4
Tatum Ansaldo
20.06.2011		Very nice controller in the mid range, much nicer than the Omni IMO. (I used to own an omni, and a friend of mine has the Reloop).

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