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Anyway of modifying the Audio 10? Posted on: 15.01.2012 by Brandi Forzano I've been using TSP2 for the past few months and it's great (I escaped the planet of SSL) but one thing that really annoys me is the need for a power supply when using the Audio 10 soundcard! Is there no way to modify this?? I know the Macbook Pro 2011 models have higher power output usb ports..perhaps some sort of hardware hack could allow the port to power it or piggy back off the thunderbolt/firewire ? I've also looked at getting an Audio 8 off ebay but i'm concerned that no new updates will be released for it so newer versions of traktor down the line may not work as well?? Audio 6 is another option, I use three decks so I'm assuming I could use the main ins and outs for the third deck?? (please correct me if I am wrong) anyone else have any other suggestions??
Dorie Scelzo 17.01.2012	How do you switch b/t vinyl and DVS playback on the NI cards without it going through Traktor first? Is the only way to set the deck in Traktor as a Live Input or to open one of those bullshit control panels with the mouse? How do you do it with SSL now that there aren't direct outputs on the current sound cards? Originally Posted by lazyellowing Yeh you have you use the panel to go to through, it is annoying; i believe overall it is just a not very well thought out soundcard but the multiple ins and outs and the midi ports are useful. it's just annoying that you require a power supply! It doesn't seem to have any more IO than the SL4, and seriously
Dorie Scelzo 17.01.2012	How do you switch b/t vinyl and DVS playback on the NI cards without it going through Traktor first? Is the only way to set the deck in Traktor as a Live Input or to open one of those bullshit control panels with the mouse? How do you do it with SSL now that there aren't direct outputs on the current sound cards? Originally Posted by lazyellowing Yeh you have you use the panel to go to through, it is annoying; i believe overall it is just a not very well thought out soundcard but the multiple ins and outs and the midi ports are useful. it's just annoying that you require a power supply! It doesn't seem to have any more IO than the SL4, and seriously
Dorie Scelzo 17.01.2012	How do you switch b/t vinyl and DVS playback on the NI cards without it going through Traktor first? Is the only way to set the deck in Traktor as a Live Input or to open one of those bullshit control panels with the mouse? How do you do it with SSL now that there aren't direct outputs on the current sound cards? Originally Posted by lazyellowing Yeh you have you use the panel to go to through, it is annoying; i believe overall it is just a not very well thought out soundcard but the multiple ins and outs and the midi ports are useful. it's just annoying that you require a power supply! It doesn't seem to have any more IO than the SL4, and seriously
Dorie Scelzo 17.01.2012	How do you switch b/t vinyl and DVS playback on the NI cards without it going through Traktor first? Is the only way to set the deck in Traktor as a Live Input or to open one of those bullshit control panels with the mouse? How do you do it with SSL now that there aren't direct outputs on the current sound cards? Originally Posted by lazyellowing Yeh you have you use the panel to go to through, it is annoying; i believe overall it is just a not very well thought out soundcard but the multiple ins and outs and the midi ports are useful. it's just annoying that you require a power supply! It doesn't seem to have any more IO than the SL4, and seriously
Dorie Scelzo 17.01.2012	How do you switch b/t vinyl and DVS playback on the NI cards without it going through Traktor first? Is the only way to set the deck in Traktor as a Live Input or to open one of those bullshit control panels with the mouse? How do you do it with SSL now that there aren't direct outputs on the current sound cards? Originally Posted by lazyellowing Yeh you have you use the panel to go to through, it is annoying; i believe overall it is just a not very well thought out soundcard but the multiple ins and outs and the midi ports are useful. it's just annoying that you require a power supply! It doesn't seem to have any more IO than the SL4, and seriously
Dorie Scelzo 17.01.2012	How do you switch b/t vinyl and DVS playback on the NI cards without it going through Traktor first? Is the only way to set the deck in Traktor as a Live Input or to open one of those bullshit control panels with the mouse? How do you do it with SSL now that there aren't direct outputs on the current sound cards? Originally Posted by lazyellowing Yeh you have you use the panel to go to through, it is annoying; i believe overall it is just a not very well thought out soundcard but the multiple ins and outs and the midi ports are useful. it's just annoying that you require a power supply! It doesn't seem to have any more IO than the SL4, and seriously
Dorie Scelzo 17.01.2012	How do you switch b/t vinyl and DVS playback on the NI cards without it going through Traktor first? Is the only way to set the deck in Traktor as a Live Input or to open one of those bullshit control panels with the mouse? How do you do it with SSL now that there aren't direct outputs on the current sound cards? Originally Posted by lazyellowing Yeh you have you use the panel to go to through, it is annoying; i believe overall it is just a not very well thought out soundcard but the multiple ins and outs and the midi ports are useful. it's just annoying that you require a power supply! It doesn't seem to have any more IO than the SL4, and seriously
Dorie Scelzo 17.01.2012	How do you switch b/t vinyl and DVS playback on the NI cards without it going through Traktor first? Is the only way to set the deck in Traktor as a Live Input or to open one of those bullshit control panels with the mouse? How do you do it with SSL now that there aren't direct outputs on the current sound cards? Originally Posted by lazyellowing Yeh you have you use the panel to go to through, it is annoying; i believe overall it is just a not very well thought out soundcard but the multiple ins and outs and the midi ports are useful. it's just annoying that you require a power supply! It doesn't seem to have any more IO than the SL4, and seriously
Dorie Scelzo 17.01.2012	How do you switch b/t vinyl and DVS playback on the NI cards without it going through Traktor first? Is the only way to set the deck in Traktor as a Live Input or to open one of those bullshit control panels with the mouse? How do you do it with SSL now that there aren't direct outputs on the current sound cards? Originally Posted by lazyellowing Yeh you have you use the panel to go to through, it is annoying; i believe overall it is just a not very well thought out soundcard but the multiple ins and outs and the midi ports are useful. it's just annoying that you require a power supply! It doesn't seem to have any more IO than the SL4, and seriously
Dorie Scelzo 17.01.2012	How do you switch b/t vinyl and DVS playback on the NI cards without it going through Traktor first? Is the only way to set the deck in Traktor as a Live Input or to open one of those bullshit control panels with the mouse? How do you do it with SSL now that there aren't direct outputs on the current sound cards? Originally Posted by lazyellowing Yeh you have you use the panel to go to through, it is annoying; i believe overall it is just a not very well thought out soundcard but the multiple ins and outs and the midi ports are useful. it's just annoying that you require a power supply! It doesn't seem to have any more IO than the SL4, and seriously
Dorie Scelzo 17.01.2012	How do you switch b/t vinyl and DVS playback on the NI cards without it going through Traktor first? Is the only way to set the deck in Traktor as a Live Input or to open one of those bullshit control panels with the mouse? How do you do it with SSL now that there aren't direct outputs on the current sound cards? Originally Posted by lazyellowing Yeh you have you use the panel to go to through, it is annoying; i believe overall it is just a not very well thought out soundcard but the multiple ins and outs and the midi ports are useful. it's just annoying that you require a power supply! It doesn't seem to have any more IO than the SL4, and seriously
Brandi Forzano 16.01.2012	Originally Posted by Xonetacular Oh yeah that's right they did. It's still nice that at least with the SL3 (so I assume SL4) when you unplugged the USB and it is running on external power it automatically switches to thru mode as soon as you yank out the USB cable . I could be wrong and I've never used one so someone correct me, but it's my understanding that the A6 and A10 don't do this and you need to go into the soundcard control panel and switch it to thru mode, which is retarded. Yeh you have you use the panel to go to through, it is annoying; i believe overall it is just a not very well thought out soundcard but the multiple ins and outs and the midi ports are useful. it's just annoying that you require a power supply!
Romelia Stankard 16.01.2012	Originally Posted by mostapha Because they've already done it. Final Scratch 2 was a Stanton-branded product, but NI was all over it. They dropped that like a prom dress when they decided to start taking themselves seriously and stop blowing the JV team. I thought I remembered another sound card that NI used for vinyl control during the Traktor 3 days, but I could be wrong. That was during a time when I swore off both Stanton and NI. Agreed. Almost. I'm still pissed off that they dropped the direct outputs. I know, I know. 30 RCA jacks on a card would be difficult to fit. It'd be a pain in the ass. But while you were spinning, you could switch back to real vinyl with a switch on the mixer instead of having to run it through software. I'd be willing to buy a proprietary snake for that functionality. Or use a d-sub connector and make the cable reparable by any computer geek with a soldering iron. That'd be really well thought out. Unfortunately, it'd make less sense to morons, so it wouldn't sell as well. Oh yeah that's right they did. It's still nice that at least with the SL3 (so I assume SL4) when you unplugged the USB and it is running on external power it automatically switches to thru mode as soon as you yank out the USB cable . I could be wrong and I've never used one so someone correct me, but it's my understanding that the A6 and A10 don't do this and you need to go into the soundcard control panel and switch it to thru mode, which is retarded.
Dorie Scelzo 16.01.2012	Originally Posted by DJKeyWee I don't see why Traktor would stop working [with the audio 8] in future version. Because they've already done it. Final Scratch 2 was a Stanton-branded product, but NI was all over it. They dropped that like a prom dress when they decided to start taking themselves seriously and stop blowing the JV team. I thought I remembered another sound card that NI used for vinyl control during the Traktor 3 days, but I could be wrong. That was during a time when I swore off both Stanton and NI. Originally Posted by Xonetacular This is what good soundcard design looks like- 10 ins on one side and 10 outs on the other, no power, 2 usb ports Agreed. Almost. I'm still pissed off that they dropped the direct outputs. I know, I know. 30 RCA jacks on a card would be difficult to fit. It'd be a pain in the ass. But while you were spinning, you could switch back to real vinyl with a switch on the mixer instead of having to run it through software. I'd be willing to buy a proprietary snake for that functionality. Or use a d-sub connector and make the cable reparable by any computer geek with a soldering iron. That'd be really well thought out. Unfortunately, it'd make less sense to morons, so it wouldn't sell as well. It's still better than the Audio 10 in every way that matters, but the SL-1 is a better 2-deck card than it is a 4-deck card. Originally Posted by Cybertrash This so much, the design of the A10 is retarded, with the ins and out on the same side of the soundcard (not to mention the "extra" ins and out on the opposite side), it's like they designed it to make as much of a cable mess as possible. They were following Stanton's design for the Scratchamp, only less stupidly oversized. Originally Posted by DJKeyWee OR allow to plug various extra gear in a snap... The only reason that would matter would be if it were installed somewhere you couldn't see the back
Evelyn Navarijo 16.01.2012	Originally Posted by Xonetacular This is what good soundcard design looks like- 10 ins on one side and 10 outs on the other, no power, 2 usb ports This so much, the design of the A10 is retarded, with the ins and out on the same side of the soundcard (not to mention the "extra" ins and out on the opposite side), it's like they designed it to make as much of a cable mess as possible.
Romelia Stankard 16.01.2012	Originally Posted by lazyellowing Exactly, I wouldn't mind sacrificing some of the LEDs on the box or the main input/output and 'only' have the 4 ins and outs, the Audio 10 is great but yeh the power supply is a pain, I was believeing why couldn't they piggy back off the firewire/other outputs that could probably help with the power requirements?? Ah well. Audio 6 would be a good option but yeh I wouldn't be able to record my mixes without an external recorder..annoying! Oh you use 3 physical timecode decks? Are they CDJs or vinyl? I believe there are only two phono preamps on the A6. In your case I would just get an audio 8, it's still a good card.
Brandi Forzano 15.01.2012	I've been using TSP2 for the past few months and it's great (I escaped the planet of SSL) but one thing that really annoys me is the need for a power supply when using the Audio 10 soundcard! Is there no way to modify this?? I know the Macbook Pro 2011 models have higher power output usb ports..perhaps some sort of hardware hack could allow the port to power it or piggy back off the thunderbolt/firewire ? I've also looked at getting an Audio 8 off ebay but i'm concerned that no new updates will be released for it so newer versions of traktor down the line may not work as well?? Audio 6 is another option, I use three decks so I'm assuming I could use the main ins and outs for the third deck?? (please correct me if I am wrong) anyone else have any other suggestions??
Dorie Scelzo 17.01.2012	How do you switch b/t vinyl and DVS playback on the NI cards without it going through Traktor first? Is the only way to set the deck in Traktor as a Live Input or to open one of those bullshit control panels with the mouse? How do you do it with SSL now that there aren't direct outputs on the current sound cards? Originally Posted by lazyellowing Yeh you have you use the panel to go to through, it is annoying; i believe overall it is just a not very well thought out soundcard but the multiple ins and outs and the midi ports are useful. it's just annoying that you require a power supply! It doesn't seem to have any more IO than the SL4, and seriously
Audria Pechman 17.01.2012	I thought this was going to be a discussion on how to make the damn thing sound better. Custom linear power supply, opamp upgrades, line level cap upgrades or removal, etc. If you want to be without a PS then just build a large enough battery pack to last 2X longer then you believe you may ever need. It might be a bit heavy though if you are using lead acid batteries
Brandi Forzano 16.01.2012	Originally Posted by Xonetacular Oh yeah that's right they did. It's still nice that at least with the SL3 (so I assume SL4) when you unplugged the USB and it is running on external power it automatically switches to thru mode as soon as you yank out the USB cable . I could be wrong and I've never used one so someone correct me, but it's my understanding that the A6 and A10 don't do this and you need to go into the soundcard control panel and switch it to thru mode, which is retarded. Yeh you have you use the panel to go to through, it is annoying; i believe overall it is just a not very well thought out soundcard but the multiple ins and outs and the midi ports are useful. it's just annoying that you require a power supply!
Romelia Stankard 16.01.2012	Originally Posted by mostapha Because they've already done it. Final Scratch 2 was a Stanton-branded product, but NI was all over it. They dropped that like a prom dress when they decided to start taking themselves seriously and stop blowing the JV team. I thought I remembered another sound card that NI used for vinyl control during the Traktor 3 days, but I could be wrong. That was during a time when I swore off both Stanton and NI. Agreed. Almost. I'm still pissed off that they dropped the direct outputs. I know, I know. 30 RCA jacks on a card would be difficult to fit. It'd be a pain in the ass. But while you were spinning, you could switch back to real vinyl with a switch on the mixer instead of having to run it through software. I'd be willing to buy a proprietary snake for that functionality. Or use a d-sub connector and make the cable reparable by any computer geek with a soldering iron. That'd be really well thought out. Unfortunately, it'd make less sense to morons, so it wouldn't sell as well. Oh yeah that's right they did. It's still nice that at least with the SL3 (so I assume SL4) when you unplugged the USB and it is running on external power it automatically switches to thru mode as soon as you yank out the USB cable . I could be wrong and I've never used one so someone correct me, but it's my understanding that the A6 and A10 don't do this and you need to go into the soundcard control panel and switch it to thru mode, which is retarded.
Dorie Scelzo 16.01.2012	Originally Posted by DJKeyWee I don't see why Traktor would stop working [with the audio 8] in future version. Because they've already done it. Final Scratch 2 was a Stanton-branded product, but NI was all over it. They dropped that like a prom dress when they decided to start taking themselves seriously and stop blowing the JV team. I thought I remembered another sound card that NI used for vinyl control during the Traktor 3 days, but I could be wrong. That was during a time when I swore off both Stanton and NI. Originally Posted by Xonetacular This is what good soundcard design looks like- 10 ins on one side and 10 outs on the other, no power, 2 usb ports Agreed. Almost. I'm still pissed off that they dropped the direct outputs. I know, I know. 30 RCA jacks on a card would be difficult to fit. It'd be a pain in the ass. But while you were spinning, you could switch back to real vinyl with a switch on the mixer instead of having to run it through software. I'd be willing to buy a proprietary snake for that functionality. Or use a d-sub connector and make the cable reparable by any computer geek with a soldering iron. That'd be really well thought out. Unfortunately, it'd make less sense to morons, so it wouldn't sell as well. It's still better than the Audio 10 in every way that matters, but the SL-1 is a better 2-deck card than it is a 4-deck card. Originally Posted by Cybertrash This so much, the design of the A10 is retarded, with the ins and out on the same side of the soundcard (not to mention the "extra" ins and out on the opposite side), it's like they designed it to make as much of a cable mess as possible. They were following Stanton's design for the Scratchamp, only less stupidly oversized. Originally Posted by DJKeyWee OR allow to plug various extra gear in a snap... The only reason that would matter would be if it were installed somewhere you couldn't see the back
Lisa Lochotzki 16.01.2012	OR allow to plug various extra gear in a snap...
Evelyn Navarijo 16.01.2012	Originally Posted by Xonetacular This is what good soundcard design looks like- 10 ins on one side and 10 outs on the other, no power, 2 usb ports This so much, the design of the A10 is retarded, with the ins and out on the same side of the soundcard (not to mention the "extra" ins and out on the opposite side), it's like they designed it to make as much of a cable mess as possible.
Romelia Stankard 16.01.2012	Originally Posted by lazyellowing Exactly, I wouldn't mind sacrificing some of the LEDs on the box or the main input/output and 'only' have the 4 ins and outs, the Audio 10 is great but yeh the power supply is a pain, I was believeing why couldn't they piggy back off the firewire/other outputs that could probably help with the power requirements?? Ah well. Audio 6 would be a good option but yeh I wouldn't be able to record my mixes without an external recorder..annoying! Oh you use 3 physical timecode decks? Are they CDJs or vinyl? I believe there are only two phono preamps on the A6. In your case I would just get an audio 8, it's still a good card.
Lisa Lochotzki 15.01.2012	easy answer... headphone output... AND direct mode when no computer is attached to. Power bar... do not take that much room... leave your adapter connected on and that's it.
Brandi Forzano 15.01.2012	Exactly, I wouldn't mind sacrificing some of the LEDs on the box or the main input/output and 'only' have the 4 ins and outs, the Audio 10 is great but yeh the power supply is a pain, I was believeing why couldn't they piggy back off the firewire/other outputs that could probably help with the power requirements?? Ah well. Audio 6 would be a good option but yeh I wouldn't be able to record my mixes without an external recorder..annoying!
Romelia Stankard 15.01.2012	I never understood why the couldn't engineer it be able to work on bus power. The rane SL4 has just as many ins/outs and nearly the same specs and can work on usb power or external power. I mean how did they believe this was possibly a good idea and DJs would want to have to plug another thing into an outlet in a dj booth? I was debating between an Audio 6 and Audio 8 a couple months ago since I wasn't willing to use external power and went with a used audio 8- then one of the phono preamps died so I have to hook up an external preamp which is a really ghetto setup and I wish I just got the Audio 6. The audio 6 gives you control over 3-4 decks. If you use 2 track decks and 2 sample decks you can route both sample decks to one output and a third channel on the mixer, and realistically you would rarely run into all 4 channels of a club mixer anyway so the A6 is a good choice. The audio 8 is still a good card but the jack layout is a little odd and kind of confusing in the dark if you don't use multicores since they are all different colors instead of just normal red and white. I really wish they just updated the Audio 8 instead of ruining the A10 with the power requirement. This is what good soundcard design looks like- 10 ins on one side and 10 outs on the other, no power, 2 usb ports
Brandi Forzano 15.01.2012	sigh, yeh I was hoping as the 2011 macbook pros have higher outputs on their USB ports? They are able to output 2.1A apparently? http://9to5mac.com/2011/03/25/new-ma...eir-usb-ports/ But yeh does seem risky and not the best idea, perhaps i'll carry on looking for an audio 8 or 6 for now.
Lisa Lochotzki 15.01.2012	there's no way around, the external psu is 9 V, 1200 mA rated... USB port provide 5 volts,. 500 mA each... so at least you would need 3 of them + raising their voltage with a DC-DC converter... and you don't want it... Keep your laptop running cool... don't suck power from it... in the long run it may save your butt and bucks... Audio 8 driver work well, I get your point but I don't see why Traktor would stop working in future version.

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