WIll a Kontrol X1, F1, and Audio 2 serve the needs of a controller?

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WIll a Kontrol X1, F1, and Audio 2 serve the needs of a controller?
Posted on: 04.04.2013 by Jada Greenhagen
II am a newbie, yet, was doing some research for a somewhat portable setup. Thus, was wondering if I didn't need scratch capability, will the X1/F1/Audio 2 do the job? Your inputs would be appreciated! Thanks!
Elwanda Ganzalez
21.04.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
If I had to strip it down tomorrow to a bare bones set-up, and money was an issue, I'd go for:

DDM 4000 and Zomo MC-1000

Pretty bad-ass set-up for less than
Brunilda Kora
06.04.2013		If I had to strip it down tomorrow to a bare bones set-up, and money was an issue, I'd go for:

DDM 4000 and Zomo MC-1000

Pretty bad-ass set-up for less than
Elwanda Ganzalez
21.04.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
If you're interested in the Zomo it has a sound card built in. Otherwise, what features were you looking for in a sound card?
Just a decent card that can keep up with my regular Reason/Live production. i.e. no latency, compatibility, aff ordable, portable, ins/outs, and monitor.
Elwanda Ganzalez
21.04.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
If I had to strip it down tomorrow to a bare bones set-up, and money was an issue, I'd go for:

DDM 4000 and Zomo MC-1000

Pretty bad-ass set-up for less than
Brunilda Kora
06.04.2013		If I had to strip it down tomorrow to a bare bones set-up, and money was an issue, I'd go for:

DDM 4000 and Zomo MC-1000

Pretty bad-ass set-up for less than
Doreen Schurle
04.04.2013
Originally Posted by ltorrespr
Yes, you do not ext power for Contour.
Nope, it runs fine bus powered. The specs say that it requires an adapter but in reality it works perfectly without

No crossfader capability on the unit; you use the club's built-in mixer for that and the rest of your EQing needs; just take the 4 outputs directly from the back of the unit into 4 channels on the club mixer then mix as you would normally. By default, the Contour mapping is set to control deck volume with the jog wheel when none of the 4 "jog modes" are selected, but I removed that straight away as I mix externally.

Personally I have mine mapped so that it's a normal jogwheel (touch-sensitive scratch + pitchbend on the outside) when no specific mode is enabled, Flux in "Scratch" mode, then pitchbend-only in "Pitchbend" mode, with shift+pitchbend as a tempo fader, then track position (rapid seek) in "Search" mode, then a deck browser in "Trax" mode.
Jada Greenhagen
04.04.2013
Originally Posted by MRG12EG
Contour looks good for the money from reading i believe you need D/C power for the audio card??

another alternative is a Allen and Heath - K2 which has a built in audio interface.
Yes, you do need ext power for Contour.
Lang Abriel
21.04.2013		You could buy my Audio Kontrol 1....dual outputs, lots of features actually

Shameless plug, although it does blow the A2 out of the water for $100
Alphonso Deitchman
21.04.2013		Focusrite have a range of production-oriented cards that are reasonably priced.
Elwanda Ganzalez
21.04.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
If you're interested in the Zomo it has a sound card built in. Otherwise, what features were you looking for in a sound card?
Just a decent card that can keep up with my regular Reason/Live production. i.e. no latency, compatibility, aff ordable, portable, ins/outs, and monitor.
Alphonso Deitchman
21.04.2013		If you're interested in the Zomo it has a sound card built in. Otherwise, what features were you looking for in a sound card?
Elwanda Ganzalez
21.04.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
If I had to strip it down tomorrow to a bare bones set-up, and money was an issue, I'd go for:

DDM 4000 and Zomo MC-1000

Pretty bad-ass set-up for less than
Jada Greenhagen
05.04.2013		Thanks Patch! Just checked those 2 out and seem like another pretty good option. Now I'll have to check all the price /value differences amongst the feedback I received.
Brunilda Kora
06.04.2013		If I had to strip it down tomorrow to a bare bones set-up, and money was an issue, I'd go for:

DDM 4000 and Zomo MC-1000

Pretty bad-ass set-up for less than
Jada Greenhagen
06.04.2013		Thanks scooterADAM!
Maile Dekerlegand
05.04.2013		sc2000 has a nice pitch fader, great for beatmatching as well as being built like a tank

a negative is that its push encoders are all notched which you may not like using for some functions
Jada Greenhagen
04.04.2013		Thanks for the inputs!
Jeffrey Akinsanya
04.04.2013		another alternative more traditional look (with the addition on a pitch slider) is the Denon DN-SC2000 (no audio)
Doreen Schurle
04.04.2013
Originally Posted by ltorrespr
Yes, you do not ext power for Contour.
Nope, it runs fine bus powered. The specs say that it requires an adapter but in reality it works perfectly without

No crossfader capability on the unit; you use the club's built-in mixer for that and the rest of your EQing needs; just take the 4 outputs directly from the back of the unit into 4 channels on the club mixer then mix as you would normally. By default, the Contour mapping is set to control deck volume with the jog wheel when none of the 4 "jog modes" are selected, but I removed that straight away as I mix externally.

Personally I have mine mapped so that it's a normal jogwheel (touch-sensitive scratch + pitchbend on the outside) when no specific mode is enabled, Flux in "Scratch" mode, then pitchbend-only in "Pitchbend" mode, with shift+pitchbend as a tempo fader, then track position (rapid seek) in "Search" mode, then a deck browser in "Trax" mode.
Jada Greenhagen
04.04.2013
Originally Posted by MRG12EG
Contour looks good for the money from reading i believe you need D/C power for the audio card??

another alternative is a Allen and Heath - K2 which has a built in audio interface.
Yes, you do need ext power for Contour.
Jeffrey Akinsanya
04.04.2013		Contour looks good for the money from reading i believe you need D/C power for the audio card??

another alternative is a Allen and Heath - K2 which has a built in audio interface.
Jada Greenhagen
04.04.2013		mdcdesign - I do like the fact that the Contour has add'l functionality (esp the integrated audio sc and the jog wheel). How do you control the ch fader & cross-fader effect with the unit? (reading through another site it appeared to be somewhat convoluted) Your thoughts? Thanks!
Doreen Schurle
04.04.2013
Originally Posted by ltorrespr
Thanks for the tip mdcdesign, I'll check it out! Thanks to all for chimming in, I appreciate the help.
No problem mate Either solution would work well tbh, I know plenty of people who use an X1 (or a pair) for controlling Traktor and it works perfectly well, I just personally prefer the Contours as they give you a bit more functionality (and all-metal construction)
Jada Greenhagen
04.04.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Personally I'd add a Contour instead of the X1, as you get a jogwheel (which can be mapped for tempo, pitchbend AND scratch control) AND a 4+1-deck (10-out) ridiculously low-latency (sub-5ms) audio interface built in. It'll cost you less than the X1 and the Audio 2 as well.
Thanks for the tip mdcdesign, I'll check it out! Thanks to all for chimming in, I appreciate the help.
Doreen Schurle
04.04.2013
Originally Posted by ltorrespr
Thanks again...I did find the thread and will read a little bit more, yet, leaning towards the X1 (adding to my F1) plus the A2. The only issue would be the lack of direct faders on the X1.
Personally I'd add a Contour instead of the X1, as you get a jogwheel (which can be mapped for tempo, pitchbend AND scratch control) AND a 4+1-deck (10-out) ridiculously low-latency (sub-5ms) audio interface built in. It'll cost you less than the X1 and the Audio 2 as well.
Jada Greenhagen
04.04.2013		Thanks again...I did find the thread and will read a little bit more, yet, leaning towards the X1 (adding to my F1) plus the A2. The only issue would be the lack of direct faders on the X1.
Dedra Kreinbring
05.04.2013		There in an official K2 thread on here I believe, read on there that the sound card is pretty quiet.

Also F1 and X1 look great together.

To be honest I have no experience of K2 though
Jada Greenhagen
05.04.2013		Thanks Big Panda & dj gullum, your inputs are appreciated! I already own an F1, so my plan was to add the X1 & A2. dj gullum - did a little googling on the A&H K2 and saw some of the differences/options...though I prefer inputs directly from the users like you. Can either of you provide additional user inputs on the A&H K2 or point me to some reference mtl's? I'll keep searching around. Again, thanks!
Ashanti Andreacchio
04.04.2013		Yes it will do the job just fine you could even go for an X1/ A&H K2 and have almost the same options. though could not controll the Remix decks.
Dedra Kreinbring
04.04.2013		If you just wanna use your laptop and X1/F1/A2 combo then that should be a nice portable set up. Just make sure you have enough usb slots.

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