TTM 57SL vs. Z2 I currently own a ttm 57SL. I am very comfortable with serato. but all my other gear seems to be going towards the native instruments direction, so I'm believeing of switching to traktor altogether, so swapping the rane for the z2.
any thoughts? yeh, or nay??!! |
Ervin Calvery
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by JCalzonetti
good point. The T1 is fantastic, I haven't had a chance to compare but I'm buying a T1 soon for the reason you just said. Its unbelievably solid with basically a built in X1 (with the transports and whatnot). I believe the reason no one cares about it is that it entered the market at a $2000 price tag and no one gave it the time of day until NI forced them to enter the realm of real world market prices.
Do you already have Traktor Scratch Pro 2? |
Michell Wehrmeyer
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by JCalzonetti
good point. The T1 is fantastic, I haven't had a chance to compare but I'm buying a T1 soon for the reason you just said. Its unbelievably solid with basically a built in X1 (with the transports and whatnot). I believe the reason no one cares about it is that it entered the market at a $2000 price tag and no one gave it the time of day until NI forced them to enter the realm of real world market prices.
I honestly was not too impressed with the faders on the T1 for whatever reason...I don't know what it was. |
Qiana Radigan
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by soundinsurgent712
I'm still surprised that the T1 gets no love when it can clearly do just as much as the Z with the exception of the remix decks..... Neither mixer has post fader effects unless running software, the T1 has more controls for the effects plus transport controls, the T1 is built solidly. ....... What gives other then the NI name??
I'm serious here how can a mixer with so little to offer (except when running software ) be placed so high above others which are clearly better least in my humble opinion.
good point. The T1 is fantastic, I haven't had a chance to compare but I'm buying a T1 soon for the reason you just said. Its unbelievably solid with basically a built in X1 (with the transports and whatnot). I believe the reason no one cares about it is that it entered the market at a $2000 price tag and no one gave it the time of day until NI forced them to enter the realm of real world market prices. |
Danae Dumler
29.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by soundinsurgent712
I'm serious here how can a mixer with so little to offer (except when running software ) be placed so high above others which are clearly better least in my humble opinion.
Ditto. And I'm a Traktor user but I just don't get how one would prefer a Z2 to a TTM-57. It's true the buttons and squizzle stick on the 57 are useless without software (and annoying to use even when you're using serato), but just as a straight up mixer and piece of hardware, the 57 is head and shoulders beyond the Z. |
Ervin Calvery
27.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by Blak Majik
True. Not meaning it's a major concern. I'm just surprised that I've had a fader go out so quickly.
Was it that one time you took a bath with it? |
Larue Ostmeyer
27.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by botstein
This isn't really a legit reason to complain in my book. I have the factory innofader in mine still, but I do occasionally break faders - I practice and play a lot.
True. Not meaning it's a major concern. I'm just surprised that I've had a fader go out so quickly. |
Ervin Calvery
27.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by Blak Majik
The ONLY thing that I have a complaint about on my Z2 is that the crossfader is definitely not a flagship innofader, or is not as durable as it should be. I got mine in December, and I already have noise bleeding from deck A into deck B, using timecode OR using standalone mode. A friend of mine swapped his crossfader to the original innofader, and it's way better apparently. Still by far my favorite mixer though!
This isn't really a legit reason to complain in my book. I have the factory innofader in mine still, but I do occasionally break faders - I practice and play a lot. |
Johnie Ranges
22.04.2013 | I currently own a ttm 57SL. I am very comfortable with serato. but all my other gear seems to be going towards the native instruments direction, so I'm believeing of switching to traktor altogether, so swapping the rane for the z2.
any thoughts? yeh, or nay??!! |
Ervin Calvery
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by JCalzonetti
good point. The T1 is fantastic, I haven't had a chance to compare but I'm buying a T1 soon for the reason you just said. Its unbelievably solid with basically a built in X1 (with the transports and whatnot). I believe the reason no one cares about it is that it entered the market at a $2000 price tag and no one gave it the time of day until NI forced them to enter the realm of real world market prices.
Do you already have Traktor Scratch Pro 2? |
Michell Wehrmeyer
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by JCalzonetti
good point. The T1 is fantastic, I haven't had a chance to compare but I'm buying a T1 soon for the reason you just said. Its unbelievably solid with basically a built in X1 (with the transports and whatnot). I believe the reason no one cares about it is that it entered the market at a $2000 price tag and no one gave it the time of day until NI forced them to enter the realm of real world market prices.
I honestly was not too impressed with the faders on the T1 for whatever reason...I don't know what it was. |
Qiana Radigan
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by soundinsurgent712
I'm still surprised that the T1 gets no love when it can clearly do just as much as the Z with the exception of the remix decks..... Neither mixer has post fader effects unless running software, the T1 has more controls for the effects plus transport controls, the T1 is built solidly. ....... What gives other then the NI name??
I'm serious here how can a mixer with so little to offer (except when running software ) be placed so high above others which are clearly better least in my humble opinion.
good point. The T1 is fantastic, I haven't had a chance to compare but I'm buying a T1 soon for the reason you just said. Its unbelievably solid with basically a built in X1 (with the transports and whatnot). I believe the reason no one cares about it is that it entered the market at a $2000 price tag and no one gave it the time of day until NI forced them to enter the realm of real world market prices. |
Johnie Ranges
29.04.2013 | Don't get me wrong, the 57 is amazing and serato i solid, has not done me wrong in many years. the 57 I believe is an incredible mixer.
BUT
I am a simple guy. I tried TRAKTOR for the first time recently and fell in love with it, and it just made sense to go in this direction(ie my other gear
is NI and it syncs nicely). As for mixers, I, myself, am happy as long as the crossfaders are butter(I scratch, and this is where I've always been at). So other than that the z2 is pretty straightforward, effects call buttons, where the 57 is a little more complicated using effects and such, I'm not saying its hard, just a little more work involved.
so for me, simple is good. I like the z2, because I get traktor now, syncs to my maschine real nice, and I like the fader and setup. Again, just my opinion. |
Ervin Calvery
29.04.2013 | The Z2 comes with Scratch Pro. |
Danae Dumler
29.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by soundinsurgent712
I'm serious here how can a mixer with so little to offer (except when running software ) be placed so high above others which are clearly better least in my humble opinion.
Ditto. And I'm a Traktor user but I just don't get how one would prefer a Z2 to a TTM-57. It's true the buttons and squizzle stick on the 57 are useless without software (and annoying to use even when you're using serato), but just as a straight up mixer and piece of hardware, the 57 is head and shoulders beyond the Z. |
Xenia Gorin
28.04.2013 | I'm still surprised that the T1 gets no love when it can clearly do just as much as the Z with the exception of the remix decks..... Neither mixer has post fader effects unless running software, the T1 has more controls for the effects plus transport controls, the T1 is built solidly. ....... What gives other then the NI name??
I'm serious here how can a mixer with so little to offer (except when running software ) be placed so high above others which are clearly better least in my humble opinion. |
Ervin Calvery
27.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by Blak Majik
True. Not meaning it's a major concern. I'm just surprised that I've had a fader go out so quickly.
Was it that one time you took a bath with it? |
Larue Ostmeyer
27.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by botstein
This isn't really a legit reason to complain in my book. I have the factory innofader in mine still, but I do occasionally break faders - I practice and play a lot.
True. Not meaning it's a major concern. I'm just surprised that I've had a fader go out so quickly. |
Ervin Calvery
27.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by Blak Majik
The ONLY thing that I have a complaint about on my Z2 is that the crossfader is definitely not a flagship innofader, or is not as durable as it should be. I got mine in December, and I already have noise bleeding from deck A into deck B, using timecode OR using standalone mode. A friend of mine swapped his crossfader to the original innofader, and it's way better apparently. Still by far my favorite mixer though!
This isn't really a legit reason to complain in my book. I have the factory innofader in mine still, but I do occasionally break faders - I practice and play a lot. |
Larue Ostmeyer
27.04.2013 | The ONLY thing that I have a complaint about on my Z2 is that the crossfader is definitely not a flagship innofader, or is not as durable as it should be. I got mine in December, and I already have noise bleeding from deck A into deck B, using timecode OR using standalone mode. A friend of mine swapped his crossfader to the original innofader, and it's way better apparently. Still by far my favorite mixer though! |
Ervin Calvery
27.04.2013 | You won't regret the Z2. it's a lot of fun! |
Johnie Ranges
27.04.2013 | yeah, i'm doing it, I have my 57 on the market......I am really trying to wait, but I believe I'm going to end up buying the z2 before I sell the 57, gettin' restless. |
Larue Ostmeyer
27.04.2013 | Do it. Z2 can be mapped to do anything you're doing in Serato and you can plug in an SL1-4 box to keep using SSL. I converted well before the Z2 but I never use serato these days. I keep my SL3 box just incase I'm playing with someone else who does |
