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Posted on: 23.04.2012 by Rey Holubar
Hey John,

Now that Maps is online (great work BTW), how about we close the "Controller Mappings" community so no new threads can be started and create a new community called "Controller Mapping Discussions"

or

just rename the current community to "Controller Mapping Discussions"?

The idea is to get people to use the new mapping database for mapping publications.

scamo
Chasidy Heckenbach
08.05.2012
Originally Posted by DJTT John
Hi zestio, your offers for help were not ignored. Check out post #3 on http://community .djranking s.com/showthread.php?t=49962 - you didn't PM me so I didn't believe you were interested. But, I've figured out the whole vB API thing anyway now.
ah not that i wasn't interested in helping - just that i must have been blind to miss that... it was maybe 4 years ago when i wrote that code to link a website's login to vb, but i'm sure it's similarish now. feel free to PM if me if i can help out with anything in the future - even i can't miss a PM
Precious Dawson
08.05.2012
Originally Posted by zestoi
edit2: i know i'm pretty new to the community so maybe that's why my offers of help have been ignored - but it would have been fun anyway
Hi zestio, your offers for help were not ignored. Check out post #3 on http://community .djranking s.com/showthread.php?t=49962 - you didn't PM me so I didn't believe you were interested. But, I've figured out the whole vB API thing anyway now.

I'm definitely listening to what you are saying and we are working on it, I believe you'll be very happy with the result. But, it's taking a while because we've got some fires to put out over on the store first!
Chasidy Heckenbach
08.05.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
New to the community with 2500 posts? I'd say you are a veteran.

scamo
cheers lol - not been registered much over a year - tho was a lurker for a while before that. i just post a lot on things midi mapping related i guess
Chasidy Heckenbach
08.05.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
That is a very good point and something Ean needs to consider.

scamo
cheers. the controller mappings area of the community is my favourite section i guess and i do like helping people out with their mapping issues. i'm no traktor mapping guru like some people on the community , but midi (and protocols generally) is my "thing" so i can normally work out enough to be helpful.

the midimaps section does add value in some very key areas, namely: a central page for each mapping with title+description and software being specified, a central place to be able to download the file(s) and also excellent version control.

just using a community thread was suboptimal for those areas but much better imho for discussion of the mappings. having to create a new acct on the site is a bit odd, but i believe they're working on changing that anyway (?)

i have offered coding help for free several times and the offer is still open, i'm sure john can handle that, but i would have loved to have been involved. have also offered help with writing code to trap the spam on the community too ofc.

edit: maybe or maybe not due to the new midimaps site i'm posting less now on the community , there does seem to be less midi mapping chat anyway, but at least i just (this post) managed to get to 2500 posts

edit2: i know i'm pretty new to the community so maybe that's why my offers of help have been ignored - but it would have been fun anyway
Chasidy Heckenbach
07.05.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
You are right, we still need a place to discuss mapping controllers. How about just changing the name of the community to "Controller Mapping" or even "Controller Mapping Discussions"?
sounds good to me

As for disjoint, comments can be written under the mapping in the new maps section. It is just not as nice as in the community .

scamo
exactly my point. a community is for discussing and does it very well. which is why i suggested a while ago that the midimaps site embeds a dedicated thread per map or other data from the community .

we already have the community and blog comments disjoint - what we dont need is something else. i love the idea of the maps site - esp if login+passwords could be shared between that and the community . what i'm not excited about is yet another comments system on the djtt site.

there's probably some very cool comments on the midimaps site and stuff i could maybe help with or at least comment on, even tho i don't have those specific controllers, but would never know about them unless i check every one individually.

if i could click on a section of the community and see all the midimaps threads/comments and what the latest one was for each then that would be perfect. but then that would be the community ofc...
Chasidy Heckenbach
07.05.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
Now that Maps is online (great work BTW), how about we close the "Controller Mappings" community so no new threads can be started and create a new community called "Controller Mapping Discussions"
the controller mappings community is basically the place to discuss mapping controllers tho? i guess it was originally meant to just be a place to post mappings, but it's much more than that now. would seem silly to merge controller mappings chatter into the "controllers, mods and gear reviews" community imho.

i believe people are posting actual mappings correctly to the new midimaps site now anyway instead of only creating a thread on the community - but i have seen some people doing what i said at the start that i'd like to see, which is to post the mapping+description in the midimaps site and link to it from a discussion thread in the community . it makes much more sense imho to use the community for that discussion than the midimaps comments and the community thread could be integrated into the midi maps page for that controller. i'm not sure why it seemed a good idea to reinvent the wheel and have a disjoint comments section on the midimaps site?
Precious Dawson
04.05.2012
Originally Posted by C-Lab
Any chance we can upload our manuals for our mappings to the Maps page as well? IDK about everyone else, but i see alot of guys with fairly lengthly PDF files. Or maybe even just make it possible for the user to view multiple images?
What people are doing at the moment is putting their mapping file and PDF in a zip file then uploading that. You can put a quick description on the mapping page but they download the PDF with the mapping file.
Dedra Heddleston
24.04.2012
Originally Posted by DJTT John
Yes, we will!! We pre-prepared a whole bunch of icons but I didn't upload them all yet!
Wow, that was quick. Thanks!
Precious Dawson
23.04.2012
Originally Posted by Glitchsbrew
Can we get an image for the APC40? Maybe this one will do.
Yes, we will!! We pre-prepared a whole bunch of icons but I didn't upload them all yet!
Dale Bollini
23.04.2012
Originally Posted by DJTT John
Yes, I've noticed a few mappings that have exactly the same description of the original mapping. I'm not sure if it's just people testing the site, or if they are genuine mappings. When a user creates an "edit" they are presented with the form to edit the description and a form to add their release notes. I can add a message to those forms to encourage the description and release notes to be edited.
yes...that's pretty much what i was hoping for
Precious Dawson
24.04.2012
Originally Posted by freebass
i just wanted to add something here...the people who are uploading edits of originals should really be encouraged by admins/moderators to include some kind of change log... just calling something an edit isn't very helpful
Yes, I've noticed a few mappings that have exactly the same description of the original mapping. I'm not sure if it's just people testing the site, or if they are genuine mappings. When a user creates an "edit" they are presented with the form to edit the description and a form to add their release notes. I can add a message to those forms to encourage the description and release notes to be edited.
Marcel Sop
23.04.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
@Kanmat - You could just zip the files together, couldn't you?

scamo

LoL couldn't agree more
Precious Dawson
23.04.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
We could send out an email to the community users (using vBulletin) and request, if they have added a mapping in the community , to move it themselves to the new mapping database????

scamo
I believe this is the best way. I don't want to upload other peoples mappings without their permission.
Chasidy Heckenbach
08.05.2012
Originally Posted by DJTT John
Hi zestio, your offers for help were not ignored. Check out post #3 on http://community .djranking s.com/showthread.php?t=49962 - you didn't PM me so I didn't believe you were interested. But, I've figured out the whole vB API thing anyway now.
ah not that i wasn't interested in helping - just that i must have been blind to miss that... it was maybe 4 years ago when i wrote that code to link a website's login to vb, but i'm sure it's similarish now. feel free to PM if me if i can help out with anything in the future - even i can't miss a PM
Precious Dawson
08.05.2012
Originally Posted by zestoi
edit2: i know i'm pretty new to the community so maybe that's why my offers of help have been ignored - but it would have been fun anyway
Hi zestio, your offers for help were not ignored. Check out post #3 on http://community .djranking s.com/showthread.php?t=49962 - you didn't PM me so I didn't believe you were interested. But, I've figured out the whole vB API thing anyway now.

I'm definitely listening to what you are saying and we are working on it, I believe you'll be very happy with the result. But, it's taking a while because we've got some fires to put out over on the store first!
Chasidy Heckenbach
08.05.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
New to the community with 2500 posts? I'd say you are a veteran.

scamo
cheers lol - not been registered much over a year - tho was a lurker for a while before that. i just post a lot on things midi mapping related i guess
Rey Holubar
08.05.2012
New to the community with 2500 posts? I'd say you are a veteran.

scamo
Chasidy Heckenbach
08.05.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
That is a very good point and something Ean needs to consider.

scamo
cheers. the controller mappings area of the community is my favourite section i guess and i do like helping people out with their mapping issues. i'm no traktor mapping guru like some people on the community , but midi (and protocols generally) is my "thing" so i can normally work out enough to be helpful.

the midimaps section does add value in some very key areas, namely: a central page for each mapping with title+description and software being specified, a central place to be able to download the file(s) and also excellent version control.

just using a community thread was suboptimal for those areas but much better imho for discussion of the mappings. having to create a new acct on the site is a bit odd, but i believe they're working on changing that anyway (?)

i have offered coding help for free several times and the offer is still open, i'm sure john can handle that, but i would have loved to have been involved. have also offered help with writing code to trap the spam on the community too ofc.

edit: maybe or maybe not due to the new midimaps site i'm posting less now on the community , there does seem to be less midi mapping chat anyway, but at least i just (this post) managed to get to 2500 posts

edit2: i know i'm pretty new to the community so maybe that's why my offers of help have been ignored - but it would have been fun anyway
Rey Holubar
08.05.2012
there's probably some very cool comments on the midimaps site and stuff i could maybe help with or at least comment on, even tho i don't have those specific controllers, but would never know about them unless i check every one individually.
That is a very good point and something Ean needs to consider.

scamo
Chasidy Heckenbach
07.05.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
You are right, we still need a place to discuss mapping controllers. How about just changing the name of the community to "Controller Mapping" or even "Controller Mapping Discussions"?
sounds good to me

As for disjoint, comments can be written under the mapping in the new maps section. It is just not as nice as in the community .

scamo
exactly my point. a community is for discussing and does it very well. which is why i suggested a while ago that the midimaps site embeds a dedicated thread per map or other data from the community .

we already have the community and blog comments disjoint - what we dont need is something else. i love the idea of the maps site - esp if login+passwords could be shared between that and the community . what i'm not excited about is yet another comments system on the djtt site.

there's probably some very cool comments on the midimaps site and stuff i could maybe help with or at least comment on, even tho i don't have those specific controllers, but would never know about them unless i check every one individually.

if i could click on a section of the community and see all the midimaps threads/comments and what the latest one was for each then that would be perfect. but then that would be the community ofc...
Rey Holubar
08.05.2012
You are right, we still need a place to discuss mapping controllers. How about just changing the name of the community to "Controller Mapping" or even "Controller Mapping Discussions"?

As for disjoint, comments can be written under the mapping in the new maps section. It is just not as nice as in the community .

scamo
Chasidy Heckenbach
07.05.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
Now that Maps is online (great work BTW), how about we close the "Controller Mappings" community so no new threads can be started and create a new community called "Controller Mapping Discussions"
the controller mappings community is basically the place to discuss mapping controllers tho? i guess it was originally meant to just be a place to post mappings, but it's much more than that now. would seem silly to merge controller mappings chatter into the "controllers, mods and gear reviews" community imho.

i believe people are posting actual mappings correctly to the new midimaps site now anyway instead of only creating a thread on the community - but i have seen some people doing what i said at the start that i'd like to see, which is to post the mapping+description in the midimaps site and link to it from a discussion thread in the community . it makes much more sense imho to use the community for that discussion than the midimaps comments and the community thread could be integrated into the midi maps page for that controller. i'm not sure why it seemed a good idea to reinvent the wheel and have a disjoint comments section on the midimaps site?
Precious Dawson
04.05.2012
Originally Posted by C-Lab
Any chance we can upload our manuals for our mappings to the Maps page as well? IDK about everyone else, but i see alot of guys with fairly lengthly PDF files. Or maybe even just make it possible for the user to view multiple images?
What people are doing at the moment is putting their mapping file and PDF in a zip file then uploading that. You can put a quick description on the mapping page but they download the PDF with the mapping file.
Inger Glubka
04.05.2012
Any chance we can upload our manuals for our mappings to the Maps page as well? IDK about everyone else, but i see alot of guys with fairly lengthly PDF files. Or maybe even just make it possible for the user to view multiple images?
Dedra Heddleston
24.04.2012
Originally Posted by DJTT John
Yes, we will!! We pre-prepared a whole bunch of icons but I didn't upload them all yet!
Wow, that was quick. Thanks!
Precious Dawson
23.04.2012
Originally Posted by Glitchsbrew
Can we get an image for the APC40? Maybe this one will do.
Yes, we will!! We pre-prepared a whole bunch of icons but I didn't upload them all yet!
Dedra Heddleston
23.04.2012
Can we get an image for the APC40? Maybe this one will do.
Dale Bollini
23.04.2012
Originally Posted by DJTT John
Yes, I've noticed a few mappings that have exactly the same description of the original mapping. I'm not sure if it's just people testing the site, or if they are genuine mappings. When a user creates an "edit" they are presented with the form to edit the description and a form to add their release notes. I can add a message to those forms to encourage the description and release notes to be edited.
yes...that's pretty much what i was hoping for
Precious Dawson
24.04.2012
Originally Posted by freebass
i just wanted to add something here...the people who are uploading edits of originals should really be encouraged by admins/moderators to include some kind of change log... just calling something an edit isn't very helpful
Yes, I've noticed a few mappings that have exactly the same description of the original mapping. I'm not sure if it's just people testing the site, or if they are genuine mappings. When a user creates an "edit" they are presented with the form to edit the description and a form to add their release notes. I can add a message to those forms to encourage the description and release notes to be edited.
Dale Bollini
23.04.2012
i just wanted to add something here...the people who are uploading edits of originals should really be encouraged by admins/moderators to include some kind of change log... just calling something an edit isn't very helpful
Marcel Sop
23.04.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
@Kanmat - You could just zip the files together, couldn't you?

scamo

LoL couldn't agree more
Precious Dawson
23.04.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
We could send out an email to the community users (using vBulletin) and request, if they have added a mapping in the community , to move it themselves to the new mapping database????

scamo
I believe this is the best way. I don't want to upload other peoples mappings without their permission.
Precious Dawson
23.04.2012
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
that'd make sense.. a sticky with a link to maps is a must!

and is it somehow possible to port these mappings?
The stickies definitely need re-arranging, we'll work on that.
Precious Dawson
23.04.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
In general, I believe a ToS is missing for DJTT.

scamo
I believe is should be next on our list. Even the privacy policy link just links back to the home page.
robin loo
23.04.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
We could send out an email to the community users (using vBulletin) and request, if they have added a mapping in the community , to move it themselves to the new mapping database????

scamo
that is probably better than just adding them automatically (if this is even possible)
Rey Holubar
23.04.2012
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
that'd make sense.. a sticky with a link to maps is a must!

and is it somehow possible to port these mappings?
We could send out an email to the community users (using vBulletin) and request, if they have added a mapping in the community , to move it themselves to the new mapping database????

scamo
Rey Holubar
23.04.2012
@Kanmat - You could just zip the files together, couldn't you?

scamo
Marcel Sop
23.04.2012
Make available to upload 2 files instead of just 1 ... in my case i was trying to upload my Lemur-Serato Map but the problem is that if you upload only mappings you wont have the lemur file ...
Rey Holubar
23.04.2012
In general, I believe a ToS is missing for DJTT.

scamo
Leeanna Ayla
23.04.2012
I was believeing about this yesterday. How are we planning to get the current mappings posted into the Maps? Can we stick each mapping on it's own page and then have a claim this mapping link? It would need some type of approval process I guess to make sure it really was their mapping.

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