Buying non-DJ Windows Laptop - Advice Needed.

Buying non-DJ Windows Laptop - Advice Needed.
Posted on: 28.07.2013 by nayit ruiz jaramillo
Ok I know this guy and he has this weird rash on his penis, it's not me it's my mate.... joking.

Genuinely my sister needs a new PC laptop. Let's start here with IT HAS TO BE WINDOWS and it cannot be a MAC.
Anyone that posts about Parallels or a Window partition will be ignored. Stick to the brief.

She's in the UK and wants a reliable and cheapish laptop that she for general surfing, pictures, home movie storage, music, watching DVDS etc.

Believe it or not she's a senior systems analyst at one of the UK's biggest television/phone/internet providers but has no idea what is on the market cus she just uses works systems and I am useless cus I havent bought a Win box in nearly 15 years.


I know she should avoid Toshiba from what I have read on the NI community (obvs she wont be running Traktor) and Dell are shite in my own experience.

I hear you guys talk about Asus quite a lot and Lenovo.

She doesnt need 8 billion GB ram or an i276 processor she just wants a reliable laptop that is of a current mid-high standard. She prefers a 17" though.

She is trying to avoid the typical PC World bloated laptop that comes with a free desk, printer, camera and student.

She just wants a decent Win laptop but these days that seems like a tough ask as the market is flooded with bundles and packages.

You are the guys to ask.

So please keep it Win, keep it realistic
Doreen Schurle
30.07.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
I've gota Vaio. I wouldn't buy another one, though.

Specifically on value for money.

But they look lovely...
They used to have major reliability issues though, usually with the cooling. My dad's had Vaios for his past 3 laptops, and ALL of them have needed at least 2 fan replacements at a cost of about
Doreen Schurle
30.07.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
I've gota Vaio. I wouldn't buy another one, though.

Specifically on value for money.

But they look lovely...
They used to have major reliability issues though, usually with the cooling. My dad's had Vaios for his past 3 laptops, and ALL of them have needed at least 2 fan replacements at a cost of about
Doreen Schurle
30.07.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
I've gota Vaio. I wouldn't buy another one, though.

Specifically on value for money.

But they look lovely...
They used to have major reliability issues though, usually with the cooling. My dad's had Vaios for his past 3 laptops, and ALL of them have needed at least 2 fan replacements at a cost of about
Doreen Schurle
30.07.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
I've gota Vaio. I wouldn't buy another one, though.

Specifically on value for money.

But they look lovely...
They used to have major reliability issues though, usually with the cooling. My dad's had Vaios for his past 3 laptops, and ALL of them have needed at least 2 fan replacements at a cost of about
Doreen Schurle
30.07.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
I've gota Vaio. I wouldn't buy another one, though.

Specifically on value for money.

But they look lovely...
They used to have major reliability issues though, usually with the cooling. My dad's had Vaios for his past 3 laptops, and ALL of them have needed at least 2 fan replacements at a cost of about
Doreen Schurle
30.07.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
I've gota Vaio. I wouldn't buy another one, though.

Specifically on value for money.

But they look lovely...
They used to have major reliability issues though, usually with the cooling. My dad's had Vaios for his past 3 laptops, and ALL of them have needed at least 2 fan replacements at a cost of about
Doreen Schurle
30.07.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
I've gota Vaio. I wouldn't buy another one, though.

Specifically on value for money.

But they look lovely...
They used to have major reliability issues though, usually with the cooling. My dad's had Vaios for his past 3 laptops, and ALL of them have needed at least 2 fan replacements at a cost of about
Doreen Schurle
30.07.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
I've gota Vaio. I wouldn't buy another one, though.

Specifically on value for money.

But they look lovely...
They used to have major reliability issues though, usually with the cooling. My dad's had Vaios for his past 3 laptops, and ALL of them have needed at least 2 fan replacements at a cost of about
Doreen Schurle
30.07.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
I've gota Vaio. I wouldn't buy another one, though.

Specifically on value for money.

But they look lovely...
They used to have major reliability issues though, usually with the cooling. My dad's had Vaios for his past 3 laptops, and ALL of them have needed at least 2 fan replacements at a cost of about
Doreen Schurle
30.07.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
I've gota Vaio. I wouldn't buy another one, though.

Specifically on value for money.

But they look lovely...
They used to have major reliability issues though, usually with the cooling. My dad's had Vaios for his past 3 laptops, and ALL of them have needed at least 2 fan replacements at a cost of about
Doreen Schurle
30.07.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
I've gota Vaio. I wouldn't buy another one, though.

Specifically on value for money.

But they look lovely...
They used to have major reliability issues though, usually with the cooling. My dad's had Vaios for his past 3 laptops, and ALL of them have needed at least 2 fan replacements at a cost of about
Alphonso Deitchman
28.07.2013
Also in the market for a Windows laptop with all the same points you listed, but I see no reason to waste money now when Haswell is around the corner given the huge battery life gains. Unfortunately the only Haswell laptop on the market right now seems to be the Air.

You might be able to get something second hand but a decent, reliable 17" laptop is a little out of the
nayit ruiz jaramillo
28.07.2013
Ok I know this guy and he has this weird rash on his penis, it's not me it's my mate.... joking.

Genuinely my sister needs a new PC laptop. Let's start here with IT HAS TO BE WINDOWS and it cannot be a MAC.
Anyone that posts about Parallels or a Window partition will be ignored. Stick to the brief.

She's in the UK and wants a reliable and cheapish laptop that she for general surfing, pictures, home movie storage, music, watching DVDS etc.

Believe it or not she's a senior systems analyst at one of the UK's biggest television/phone/internet providers but has no idea what is on the market cus she just uses works systems and I am useless cus I havent bought a Win box in nearly 15 years.


I know she should avoid Toshiba from what I have read on the NI community (obvs she wont be running Traktor) and Dell are shite in my own experience.

I hear you guys talk about Asus quite a lot and Lenovo.

She doesnt need 8 billion GB ram or an i276 processor she just wants a reliable laptop that is of a current mid-high standard. She prefers a 17" though.

She is trying to avoid the typical PC World bloated laptop that comes with a free desk, printer, camera and student.

She just wants a decent Win laptop but these days that seems like a tough ask as the market is flooded with bundles and packages.

You are the guys to ask.

So please keep it Win, keep it realistic
Doreen Schurle
30.07.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
I've gota Vaio. I wouldn't buy another one, though.

Specifically on value for money.

But they look lovely...
They used to have major reliability issues though, usually with the cooling. My dad's had Vaios for his past 3 laptops, and ALL of them have needed at least 2 fan replacements at a cost of about
Doreen Schurle
28.07.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
The Thinkpad E series looks awfully like a typical consumerist laptop, especially compared to the T and X series.

The T440s is one model that's caught my eye so far.
Agreed. Tbh, they all look too "modern" for my tastes these days... my favourite model of all time was the R50, which was absolutely gorgeous in a business kinda way.

Alphonso Deitchman
28.07.2013
Also in the market for a Windows laptop with all the same points you listed, but I see no reason to waste money now when Haswell is around the corner given the huge battery life gains. Unfortunately the only Haswell laptop on the market right now seems to be the Air.

You might be able to get something second hand but a decent, reliable 17" laptop is a little out of the
nayit ruiz jaramillo
28.07.2013
Ok I know this guy and he has this weird rash on his penis, it's not me it's my mate.... joking.

Genuinely my sister needs a new PC laptop. Let's start here with IT HAS TO BE WINDOWS and it cannot be a MAC.
Anyone that posts about Parallels or a Window partition will be ignored. Stick to the brief.

She's in the UK and wants a reliable and cheapish laptop that she for general surfing, pictures, home movie storage, music, watching DVDS etc.

Believe it or not she's a senior systems analyst at one of the UK's biggest television/phone/internet providers but has no idea what is on the market cus she just uses works systems and I am useless cus I havent bought a Win box in nearly 15 years.


I know she should avoid Toshiba from what I have read on the NI community (obvs she wont be running Traktor) and Dell are shite in my own experience.

I hear you guys talk about Asus quite a lot and Lenovo.

She doesnt need 8 billion GB ram or an i276 processor she just wants a reliable laptop that is of a current mid-high standard. She prefers a 17" though.

She is trying to avoid the typical PC World bloated laptop that comes with a free desk, printer, camera and student.

She just wants a decent Win laptop but these days that seems like a tough ask as the market is flooded with bundles and packages.

You are the guys to ask.

So please keep it Win, keep it realistic
Alphonso Deitchman
05.08.2013
I'd say it's more the buisness oriented models (Thinkpad) vs consumer. The Ideapads look just as awful as the rest.
Ming Devis
04.08.2013
Another vote for Lenovo. From my experience with them they seem to be allot more reliable than Toshiba, HP etc
Len Lukawski
04.08.2013
+ All the point on the Lenovo. All day, every day.

- All the points on the VAIO. Far too hit and miss from unit to unit.
Doreen Schurle
30.07.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
I've gota Vaio. I wouldn't buy another one, though.

Specifically on value for money.

But they look lovely...
They used to have major reliability issues though, usually with the cooling. My dad's had Vaios for his past 3 laptops, and ALL of them have needed at least 2 fan replacements at a cost of about
Brunilda Kora
30.07.2013
I've gota Vaio. I wouldn't buy another one, though.

Specifically on value for money.

But they look lovely...
Rodolfo Oriol
30.07.2013
1+ on Sony Vaio
Hipolito Scionti
30.07.2013
If i didnt get a mac and i didnt need pure applications I'd get a chrome book I reckon

For surfing and emails etc their pretty dope, cheap as chips and very unbloated
Doreen Schurle
28.07.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
The Thinkpad E series looks awfully like a typical consumerist laptop, especially compared to the T and X series.

The T440s is one model that's caught my eye so far.
Agreed. Tbh, they all look too "modern" for my tastes these days... my favourite model of all time was the R50, which was absolutely gorgeous in a business kinda way.

Ilda Johs
28.07.2013
Sony produces some nice vaio computers at decent prices. Most contain a good amount of ram and at least an i3 processor. They should be able to last for some time.
Alphonso Deitchman
28.07.2013
The Thinkpad E series looks awfully like a typical consumerist laptop, especially compared to the T and X series.

The T440s is one model that's caught my eye so far.
Doreen Schurle
28.07.2013
Yep, Lenovo. All day long.

I've had plenty of Thinkpads over the years (although admittedly while they were still IBMs), and they absolutely annihilate every other brand (including Apple) with regards to reliability and survivability.

In an "I Am Legend" situation, you could dig a Thinkpad up out of the ground, shake the dirt off it, and switch it on.

EDIT: Avoid AMD, there's just too many issues with them in terms of reliability and random crashes. Anything i3 or above will be perfectly fine for everyday (non-gaming) usage, so the i3-equipped Thinkpad E531 or the IdeaPad S300. If you can go a bit higher on the price, or if you don't mind going refurb, there are some nice i5 models out there like the T510.
Rolanda Clodfelder
28.07.2013
Lenovo are about the only brand of Windows laptop that I'd pretty much guarantee will work out of the box and continue working until its retired (or windows f*cks everything up with a service pack).

They aren't pretty, they aren't the fastest, but they bloody work.

Oh and yeah I reckon 15' is the most her budget will allow and I'd buy it from http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk having used them before a number of times and they were great to deal with.

17' is not a laptop, nor a notebook, hell its barely a portable PC ... its .... a workstation that happens to have a foldable screen.
Alphonso Deitchman
28.07.2013
Also in the market for a Windows laptop with all the same points you listed, but I see no reason to waste money now when Haswell is around the corner given the huge battery life gains. Unfortunately the only Haswell laptop on the market right now seems to be the Air.

You might be able to get something second hand but a decent, reliable 17" laptop is a little out of the

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