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Who has made the switch from Controllers to DVS?
Posted on: 26.06.2013 by Elroy Sillman
Heyy all!

First Post! Just made the switch from a Numark Mixtrack Pro to a Xone 22, (1) Turntable, Traktor A6 and a Kontrol F1. I am loving every minute of it. For some reason whenever i show up to gigs, people take me way more serious now that I am bringing out turntables and mixers instead of a small "toy like" controller. I noticed this about a year ago when i was DJing a college party with my friends turntable setup, and everyone was so into the music the first evening . Then the second evening i brought out the Mixtrack for the convenience and no one reacted at all. It was like no one was interested in listening to a DJ who was just rubbing on a plastic controller. I was wondering if there is anyone else who has made the switch? and how do people look at you as a DJ now that you have made the switch?

Thanks,
Mooger
Hermine Lally
28.06.2013
I've been DJ professionally for over 10 years and was into audio production/engineering way before that. CDs were the norm when I started playing out. Although I have a pretty large record collection (about 30 crates or so), vinyl was often too restrictive for a variety of reasons. It was only feasible if you were playing a niche genre or you were on a bunch of major label promo lists getting free 12-inches. It was just easier to walk into a club with a CD book and headphones.

Nowadays, in most major cities, decent clubs have turntables installed and the laptop+interface has replaced the CD book. I believe that's where the anti-controller viewpoint comes from. It often says to the audience (if they can see what you're using) that you haven't been a DJ for very long and don't play in larger clubs. Don't get me wrong, when I do mobile gigs I wish I could just walk in with a controller (my turntable case is 100+ pounds and my DJ style is the same on whatever I use), but clients usually want the visual of real turntables.

The funny thing is that now you have (at least in my city) hipster/scenster-type guys using SSL (with a top-of-the-line macbook of course), that don't even own turntables or actual records themselves, so they never practice or learn the tools. Without a sync button to help them they sound HORRIBLE. It makes me wish they would at least buy a controller or something and learn how to not make a mockery of DJing.

BTW- If you believe using DVS is hard, try doing a gig with real records. You have to BPM and mark tracks/cue points BY HAND.
Lorri Bobar
28.06.2013
i just recently added a pair of technics m3d's to my s4 setup. i feel like a total noob on the decks, but it is really different and makes me believe more about the music, the arc of a mix, and kinda feels like for the first time i'm dejaying. the responsiveness of control vinyl is phenomenal.

i believe i relied so much on the sync button on an s4 and all the other gadgetry that i'd end up going ok these tracks are synced together, lets go crazy on the fx!!!! but working with the turntables and not having a screen in front of me, has really made me delve deeper into eqing and perfecting the sound of the mix instead.

the learning curve is steep, and in a lot of ways you lose functionality going to DVS, so i don't believe it is for everyone. i also want to use the tt's for sampling/producing, adding turntable fx to my own music, learning to scratch, and ultimately being club ready. i believe for someone who has no idea how to use turntables to suddenly switch from controllers to DVS, like me, its a pretty big risk of 'hm, will this be the right thing for me?' and i seriously doubt it is for everyone... i took the risk, loving it so far.
Marcelina Hanaway
28.06.2013
Originally Posted by Coldfuzion
When we say "vinyl", we don't really mean vinyl, we mean DVS - most of the time anyway. And I started off DJ'ing on the S4, and moved to CDJ's now and personally the moment I made the switch to straight CDJ's I felt a different connection with my music (I only use USBs btw - no computer connected). It was just so much more fun and engaging for me personally. Definitely got more of a sense of satisfaction. Plus it's MADE me absolutely work on all my basics.
This. I started with an S4. Just felt soulless. No offense to controller users. It's fun. But CDJs/TT's seem that much more personal. I'd love to have both, to be honest (CDJs + controller). CDJs and a mixer just work better for me.
Wilson Durrum
28.06.2013
My 1st Technics 1200 M3D will be arriving today and I cannot wait to start using it. I was using a S2 and while it is lighter, more portable and easier to setup than a mixer and TTs. I get way more enjoyment from using the TT's than I ever did with a controller. FYI I have been using a friends Technics. I will prob only take one to a gig (all I have for now but plan to get another) and use my Z2 & X1 to control everything else within Traktor.
Elroy Sillman
28.06.2013
Originally Posted by dripstep
Then why post?

I switched from controllers to dvs, and then added a controller, then added in my other controller, and now it's mostly scratching on the tts and using the x1 to select music so I don't have to touch my laptop. A lot of times though, it's just scratching vinyl, not dvs.
on not touching the laptop! that is why i keep the f1 around. TBH im not a fan of the remix decks after using ableton for so long, but its great for cues and keeping my hands of my laptop!
Yong Aptekar
28.06.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Sigh @ this thread.
Then why post?

I switched from controllers to dvs, and then added a controller, then added in my other controller, and now it's mostly scratching on the tts and using the x1 to select music so I don't have to touch my laptop. A lot of times though, it's just scratching vinyl, not dvs.
Addie Engbrecht
27.06.2013
Originally Posted by Frank112916
There are very few djs who become famous from just their djing. Laidback like who is one of the more technical and dynamic djs out there got recognized for his production first. It's really only hip-hop/scratch djs who become incredibly famous for djing, and they put out remixes too (see: DJ AM)
No doubt. I never would dispute that. I'm saying the statement about Zedd and Porter use controllers and it didn't hold them back from becoming famous is irrelevant, because that's not why they're famous. No different then me saying that Will I AM uses an S4 and it didn't hold him back from becoming famous.
Doreen Schurle
27.06.2013
Sigh @ this thread.
Dino Hapgood
27.06.2013
Originally Posted by manchild
Became famous off their music....not skills DJ'n
There are very few djs who become famous from just their djing. Laidback like who is one of the more technical and dynamic djs out there got recognized for his production first. It's really only hip-hop/scratch djs who become incredibly famous for djing, and they put out remixes too (see: DJ AM)
Addie Engbrecht
27.06.2013
Originally Posted by Frank112916
. They were rockin the s4 and still became famous.
Became famous off their music....not skills DJ'n
Elroy Sillman
27.06.2013
I cant really say im a true vinyl dj using DVS just cuz true vinyl has a way better sound than compressed MP3s. I definitely agree with back to basics, i have moved away from the sync button completely now and i really feel like I am starting to get that connection with getting to know my tracks again (Like with true vinyl).

I believe porter & zedd can get away with controllers just because, one they are widely recognized producers and two they are constantly touring. I couldn't imagine dragging around Technics all over the world, props to the old heads that did it!
Carlee Pickard
27.06.2013
When we say "vinyl", we don't really mean vinyl, we mean DVS - most of the time anyway. And I started off DJ'ing on the S4, and moved to CDJ's now and personally the moment I made the switch to straight CDJ's I felt a different connection with my music (I only use USBs btw - no computer connected). It was just so much more fun and engaging for me personally. Definitely got more of a sense of satisfaction. Plus it's MADE me absolutely work on all my basics.
Margaretta Hebenstreit
27.06.2013
Am i the only one around here that doesn't classify someone using DVS as a vinyl DJ?
Dia Laryea
26.06.2013
I definitely made the switch after having it a lifelong dream as a kid to be a Vinyl DJ.

I only got my first controller this month, and after using it for hours straight day after day, I'm deciding to return it.

I'm buying a pair of Stanton STR8-80's and I'll be saving up for the Traktor Z2, can't wait to complete my set!
Dino Hapgood
26.06.2013
I can't wait to switch back from my dvs setup to a controller...but only for convenience and space saving. I don't gig out anymore. But honestly no one cares...look at zedd and porter. They were rockin the s4 and still became famous.

Maybe you just play boring music? If the music you're playing doesn't get people dancing...then play better music? Don't matter what you have, it's how you use it. People would go see Carl Cox if he was spinning with the "dj mouse" if he could do the same things he does on cdjs.
Addie Engbrecht
26.06.2013
never noticed anything different from the crowd.......doesn't matter if it's cdj's, techs, or controller. Obviously important people like managers, owners, and promoters are more likely to take you more seriously.....a lot of them either started as DJ's or still DJ. That kinda falls under the idea of if you pay good money to a "professional" photographer to take pics at your event and they show up with a disposable camera.......right or wrong your first impression is to not take them all that seriously.
Wilson Durrum
26.06.2013
I got a Z2 a few weeks ago and now search for turntables after using my friends Technics last weekend. I was using a S2 but looking to go the DVS route and sell the S2. I had a lot more fun on the TTs than I ever have on my S2.
Arnulfo Morten
26.06.2013
Originally Posted by dj_moog
Heyy all!

First Post! Just made the switch from a Numark Mixtrack Pro to a Xone 22, (1) Turntable, Traktor A6 and a Kontrol F1. I am loving every minute of it. For some reason whenever i show up to gigs, people take me way more serious now that I am bringing out turntables and mixers instead of a small "toy like" controller. I noticed this about a year ago when i was DJing a college party with my friends turntable setup, and everyone was so into the music the first evening . Then the second evening i brought out the Mixtrack for the convenience and no one reacted at all. It was like no one was interested in listening to a DJ who was just rubbing on a plastic controller. I was wondering if there is anyone else who has made the switch? and how do people look at you as a DJ now that you have made the switch?

Thanks,
Mooger
Start using Serato Scratch Live then people will know your not syncing :P don't let me see you using the bridge either haha welcome man
Dedra Kreinbring
27.06.2013
I will let you know when my TTs arrive!
Marcelina Hanaway
27.06.2013
And boners.
Sonja Roybal
27.06.2013
Chicks dig vinyl. It's a fact.

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