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Who has made the switch from Controllers to DVS?
Posted on: 26.06.2013 by Elroy Sillman
Heyy all!

First Post! Just made the switch from a Numark Mixtrack Pro to a Xone 22, (1) Turntable, Traktor A6 and a Kontrol F1. I am loving every minute of it. For some reason whenever i show up to gigs, people take me way more serious now that I am bringing out turntables and mixers instead of a small "toy like" controller. I noticed this about a year ago when i was DJing a college party with my friends turntable setup, and everyone was so into the music the first evening . Then the second evening i brought out the Mixtrack for the convenience and no one reacted at all. It was like no one was interested in listening to a DJ who was just rubbing on a plastic controller. I was wondering if there is anyone else who has made the switch? and how do people look at you as a DJ now that you have made the switch?

Thanks,
Mooger
Qiana Castellucci
30.06.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
Yeee. I'm a motorcycling DJ too. Vinyl soooo expensive. I got a table just for listening :|
I've been buying loads on discogs, been paying between
Stanley Peckman
01.07.2013
Originally Posted by DubluW
Thats......Thats scary, how did you do that? Im at stage 5!
I'm not inside your head................ your just "normal" and doing the same things many have done who got into djing in the last 3 or so years

Controllers = accessibility
1210's = progression (probably the only time discontinued technology has ever equated to progression - ever)
cdjs = you've made some decent $ /
Qiana Castellucci
30.06.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
Yeee. I'm a motorcycling DJ too. Vinyl soooo expensive. I got a table just for listening :|
I've been buying loads on discogs, been paying between
Stanley Peckman
01.07.2013
Originally Posted by DubluW
Thats......Thats scary, how did you do that? Im at stage 5!
I'm not inside your head................ your just "normal" and doing the same things many have done who got into djing in the last 3 or so years

Controllers = accessibility
1210's = progression (probably the only time discontinued technology has ever equated to progression - ever)
cdjs = you've made some decent $ /
Qiana Castellucci
30.06.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
Yeee. I'm a motorcycling DJ too. Vinyl soooo expensive. I got a table just for listening :|
I've been buying loads on discogs, been paying between
Stanley Peckman
01.07.2013
Originally Posted by DubluW
Thats......Thats scary, how did you do that? Im at stage 5!
I'm not inside your head................ your just "normal" and doing the same things many have done who got into djing in the last 3 or so years

Controllers = accessibility
1210's = progression (probably the only time discontinued technology has ever equated to progression - ever)
cdjs = you've made some decent $ /
Qiana Castellucci
30.06.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
All the vinyl I really want is in Europe so I'm having to pay like 20-30 bucks per.
Yeah, i know what you mean. Occasionally I can only find stuff i really want in the US so have the same prob - what I try to do is buy a bunch from the same person and save on postage and try to cut a bit of a deal. Sometimes works
Qiana Castellucci
30.06.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
Yeee. I'm a motorcycling DJ too. Vinyl soooo expensive. I got a table just for listening :|
I've been buying loads on discogs, been paying between
Qiana Castellucci
30.06.2013
Originally Posted by anteater32
Not had a supermoto since 06. I got into supermoto racing, sold the Fireblade and went for it, had a ball for a few years, then in 2007 I went road racing in on a pair of of ZXR400's.

Skip to 2009 I was on a Superstock Yamaha R6 which was cool.

2010 I went minitwin racing on a Ducati and retired in '11. Got into DJing as a replacement hobby for motorcycle racing by accident, wasn't planned but I really enjoy it. I've got a memory from way back that you didn't go to a track day Funners and myself organised as you had a gig - must have been 10 years ago?

I've still got the Ducati so believeing about putting it on the road

Small world innit.
Yup about the gig! I remember the pictures well - lol

One expensive hobby to another eh?

Cheaper now you can go digital rather than vinyl - but I still buy a shit load of vinyl.

Damn small world mate!
Stanley Peckman
30.06.2013
Originally Posted by iambiggles
It is indeed.... I remember your name too Still on the supermotos? I went MX for a bit then decided I'm too fragile as I got older, so switched to a fast car and a faster (road) bike. I never knew you DJ'd! But the same probably applies to me to be honest

My story isn't like your list - started on Vinyl in 1987, still have same (but reconditioned) sl1210's, still on vinyl, but with added DVS. At home that is - out its mostly CDJ for convenience.
Not had a supermoto since 06. I got into supermoto racing, sold the Fireblade and went for it, had a ball for a few years, then in 2007 I went road racing in on a pair of of ZXR400's.

Skip to 2009 I was on a Superstock Yamaha R6 which was cool.

2010 I went minitwin racing on a Ducati and retired in '11. Got into DJing as a replacement hobby for motorcycle racing by accident, wasn't planned but I really enjoy it. I've got a memory from way back that you didn't go to a track day Funners and myself organised as you had a gig - must have been 10 years ago?

I've still got the Ducati so believeing about putting it on the road

Small world innit.
Stanley Peckman
01.07.2013
Originally Posted by DubluW
Thats......Thats scary, how did you do that? Im at stage 5!
I'm not inside your head................ your just "normal" and doing the same things many have done who got into djing in the last 3 or so years

Controllers = accessibility
1210's = progression (probably the only time discontinued technology has ever equated to progression - ever)
cdjs = you've made some decent $ /
Qiana Castellucci
01.07.2013
Originally Posted by anteater32

PS, iambiggles thats a familiar user name ;- are you the same bloke that was into supermoto 10 years ago?
It is indeed.... I remember your name too Still on the supermotos? I went MX for a bit then decided I'm too fragile as I got older, so switched to a fast car and a faster (road) bike. I never knew you DJ'd! But the same probably applies to me to be honest

My story isn't like your list - started on Vinyl in 1987, still have same (but reconditioned) sl1210's, still on vinyl, but with added DVS. At home that is - out its mostly CDJ for convenience.
Lillia Datson
30.06.2013
Originally Posted by anteater32
This is an unconscious change that many go through - almost a passage of rights

Controllers are what get people into playing these days, then as time goes by they learn more and want to progress.
  • Next they browse for CDJ's and 1210's on line
  • Sh1ts their self at the cost of CDJ's and buys a pair of 1210's
  • Gets T Scratch and delves into timecode
  • Realises the S4 doesn't hack it anymore
  • gets a mixer
  • starts buying records and swaps between timecode and real vinyl at will


Familiar story, your not alone.

PS, iambiggles thats a familiar user name ;- are you the same bloke that was into supermoto 10 years ago?




Thats......Thats scary, how did you do that? Im at stage 5!
Arnulfo Morten
30.06.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
Ah, the "good" old days!

Message to the kids: We used to have to count how many beats there were in a track in ten seconds, then multiply that by 6 to get a rough BPM for that track. Some DJ's would stick a label on the sleeve, or scribble the BPM on the record label.
Yes the days before the bpm counter i use to count how many beats in 30 seconds x 2 +1 if i started on 1 +0 if i started on 0

now i have a app on my iphone....
Qiana Castellucci
29.06.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
House DJ, are you???

There's your answer, then.
Not sure what you're getting at here?

I've got tracks that I would call house that range from 116-135bpm. Personally i play a more "Balearic" set where I can have tracks at sub 100bpm, to tracks at high 130's. I've never had to work out a BPM, but then after 27 years I pretty much know the BPM (withing a couple of ticks) in about 5-10 seconds.

What do you play that makes the pre-workout of the BPM's so useful? OK - scratch that, just looked at your soundcloud your selection could be as eclectic as mine, but I still dont need to work 'em out
Qiana Castellucci
30.06.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
All the vinyl I really want is in Europe so I'm having to pay like 20-30 bucks per.
Yeah, i know what you mean. Occasionally I can only find stuff i really want in the US so have the same prob - what I try to do is buy a bunch from the same person and save on postage and try to cut a bit of a deal. Sometimes works
Gaynell Rydberg
30.06.2013
All the vinyl I really want is in Europe so I'm having to pay like 20-30 bucks per.
Qiana Castellucci
30.06.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
Yeee. I'm a motorcycling DJ too. Vinyl soooo expensive. I got a table just for listening :|
I've been buying loads on discogs, been paying between
Gaynell Rydberg
30.06.2013
Yeee. I'm a motorcycling DJ too. Vinyl soooo expensive. I got a table just for listening :|
Qiana Castellucci
30.06.2013
Originally Posted by anteater32
Not had a supermoto since 06. I got into supermoto racing, sold the Fireblade and went for it, had a ball for a few years, then in 2007 I went road racing in on a pair of of ZXR400's.

Skip to 2009 I was on a Superstock Yamaha R6 which was cool.

2010 I went minitwin racing on a Ducati and retired in '11. Got into DJing as a replacement hobby for motorcycle racing by accident, wasn't planned but I really enjoy it. I've got a memory from way back that you didn't go to a track day Funners and myself organised as you had a gig - must have been 10 years ago?

I've still got the Ducati so believeing about putting it on the road

Small world innit.
Yup about the gig! I remember the pictures well - lol

One expensive hobby to another eh?

Cheaper now you can go digital rather than vinyl - but I still buy a shit load of vinyl.

Damn small world mate!
Stanley Peckman
30.06.2013
Originally Posted by iambiggles
It is indeed.... I remember your name too Still on the supermotos? I went MX for a bit then decided I'm too fragile as I got older, so switched to a fast car and a faster (road) bike. I never knew you DJ'd! But the same probably applies to me to be honest

My story isn't like your list - started on Vinyl in 1987, still have same (but reconditioned) sl1210's, still on vinyl, but with added DVS. At home that is - out its mostly CDJ for convenience.
Not had a supermoto since 06. I got into supermoto racing, sold the Fireblade and went for it, had a ball for a few years, then in 2007 I went road racing in on a pair of of ZXR400's.

Skip to 2009 I was on a Superstock Yamaha R6 which was cool.

2010 I went minitwin racing on a Ducati and retired in '11. Got into DJing as a replacement hobby for motorcycle racing by accident, wasn't planned but I really enjoy it. I've got a memory from way back that you didn't go to a track day Funners and myself organised as you had a gig - must have been 10 years ago?

I've still got the Ducati so believeing about putting it on the road

Small world innit.
Stanley Peckman
01.07.2013
Originally Posted by DubluW
Thats......Thats scary, how did you do that? Im at stage 5!
I'm not inside your head................ your just "normal" and doing the same things many have done who got into djing in the last 3 or so years

Controllers = accessibility
1210's = progression (probably the only time discontinued technology has ever equated to progression - ever)
cdjs = you've made some decent $ /
Qiana Castellucci
01.07.2013
Originally Posted by anteater32

PS, iambiggles thats a familiar user name ;- are you the same bloke that was into supermoto 10 years ago?
It is indeed.... I remember your name too Still on the supermotos? I went MX for a bit then decided I'm too fragile as I got older, so switched to a fast car and a faster (road) bike. I never knew you DJ'd! But the same probably applies to me to be honest

My story isn't like your list - started on Vinyl in 1987, still have same (but reconditioned) sl1210's, still on vinyl, but with added DVS. At home that is - out its mostly CDJ for convenience.
Elsie Golis
30.06.2013
scary indeed since i just went through those stages as well..
Lillia Datson
30.06.2013
Originally Posted by anteater32
This is an unconscious change that many go through - almost a passage of rights

Controllers are what get people into playing these days, then as time goes by they learn more and want to progress.
  • Next they browse for CDJ's and 1210's on line
  • Sh1ts their self at the cost of CDJ's and buys a pair of 1210's
  • Gets T Scratch and delves into timecode
  • Realises the S4 doesn't hack it anymore
  • gets a mixer
  • starts buying records and swaps between timecode and real vinyl at will


Familiar story, your not alone.

PS, iambiggles thats a familiar user name ;- are you the same bloke that was into supermoto 10 years ago?




Thats......Thats scary, how did you do that? Im at stage 5!
Stanley Peckman
30.06.2013
This is an unconscious change that many go through - almost a passage of rights

Controllers are what get people into playing these days, then as time goes by they learn more and want to progress.
  • Next they browse for CDJ's and 1210's on line
  • Sh1ts their self at the cost of CDJ's and buys a pair of 1210's
  • Gets T Scratch and delves into timecode
  • Realises the S4 doesn't hack it anymore
  • gets a mixer
  • starts buying records and swaps between timecode and real vinyl at will


Familiar story, your not alone.

PS, iambiggles thats a familiar user name ;- are you the same bloke that was into supermoto 10 years ago?
Hank Guidas
30.06.2013
People I've talked to @ gigs and evening clubs do seem to take vinyl more serious
Arnulfo Morten
30.06.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
Ah, the "good" old days!

Message to the kids: We used to have to count how many beats there were in a track in ten seconds, then multiply that by 6 to get a rough BPM for that track. Some DJ's would stick a label on the sleeve, or scribble the BPM on the record label.
Yes the days before the bpm counter i use to count how many beats in 30 seconds x 2 +1 if i started on 1 +0 if i started on 0

now i have a app on my iphone....
Edwina Fagel
29.06.2013
Bought a S2. Played 4 gigs.
Sold S2.
Visited England and bought 2x1210 and Audio 8.
Never looked back.
Milda Poucher
29.06.2013
The first gear I bought was a pair of 1210s but with no mixer. I then used a APC40 as a "mixer" in Ableton. Then I got a S4. Just this week I have bought a mixer and 1 CDJ. I figured it was time to actually use industry standard gear and practice practice practice. The CDJ was bought so it forces me to have some sort of work-flow rather than just picking out tracks in Traktor. It might sound silly but I need to start getting my **** together if this is something I am passionate about. I want to be able to carry around a couple of USB sticks and a CD case and no that if the time came I could just do a set on the spot. I could do it anyway with my S4 but I didn't feel like I was really enjoying it. I will still be using Traktor in some forms because while I like vinyl, I can't really afford it so will stick with the timecode. I have about 6 timecode vinyl haha. Shame they are all MK1s.
Tamela Batara
29.06.2013
House/trance/techno and at the time, hardcore, so BPM ranges from around 115 to 180+. Still didn't need to work out the BPM, you can tell within 5 seconds if it'll work or not, same as iambiggles states.
Qiana Castellucci
29.06.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
House DJ, are you???

There's your answer, then.
Not sure what you're getting at here?

I've got tracks that I would call house that range from 116-135bpm. Personally i play a more "Balearic" set where I can have tracks at sub 100bpm, to tracks at high 130's. I've never had to work out a BPM, but then after 27 years I pretty much know the BPM (withing a couple of ticks) in about 5-10 seconds.

What do you play that makes the pre-workout of the BPM's so useful? OK - scratch that, just looked at your soundcloud your selection could be as eclectic as mine, but I still dont need to work 'em out
Brunilda Kora
29.06.2013
Originally Posted by xs2man
I've been playing vinyl for over 15 years, and NEVER tried to work out the BPM of a track. I just stuck on the next slab, and beatmatched it... Why would you need to know the BPM?
House DJ, are you???

There's your answer, then.
Vallie Pac
29.06.2013
I use an NS7. Very few people (mostly other DJ's) look at the NS7 and know it is a controller. Most people look at it, see the spinning vinyl on the platters, and believe it is a pair of turntables.
Yong Aptekar
29.06.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
Message to the kids: We used to have to count how many beats there were in a track in ten seconds, then multiply that by 6 to get a rough BPM for that track. Some DJ's would stick a label on the sleeve, or scribble the BPM on the record label.
Hotcues? How about a half moon sticker right in the middle of the record to jump to a point?
Terrell Allende
28.06.2013
I've had a few gigs, with 50+ people, and I have noticed people just stare. Perhaps it is because they're not used to seeing a DJ with just a mixtrack pro. I have been wanting to go down the DVS route but I need some money first.
Tamela Batara
28.06.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
Ah, the "good" old days!

Message to the kids: We used to have to count how many beats there were in a track in ten seconds, then multiply that by 6 to get a rough BPM for that track. Some DJ's would stick a label on the sleeve, or scribble the BPM on the record label.
I've been playing vinyl for over 15 years, and NEVER tried to work out the BPM of a track. I just stuck on the next slab, and beatmatched it... Why would you need to know the BPM?
Sonja Roybal
28.06.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
Ah, the "good" old days!

Message to the kids: We used to have to count how many beats there were in a track in ten seconds, then multiply that by 6 to get a rough BPM for that track. Some DJ's would stick a label on the sleeve, or scribble the BPM on the record label.
I've always played one genre, so that's never been an issue. Now I'm playing more footwork and the temposync comes in handy because we're talking about 15-20 bpm jumps.

I'm in the process of going from a controller to DVS. I just have to wait to sell my S4 for the Z2. I decided space is more important than 4 decks.

I also have crates of real vinyl that I can't wait to bring back out.

Turntables just really draw people. No matter where I go, the average person just seems to be much more into dj's that are playing vinyl, or "vinyl."
Lorri Bobar
28.06.2013
damn... looks like this thread is a bust after all...
Brunilda Kora
28.06.2013
Originally Posted by coolout
You have to BPM and mark tracks/cue points BY HAND.
Ah, the "good" old days!

Message to the kids: We used to have to count how many beats there were in a track in ten seconds, then multiply that by 6 to get a rough BPM for that track. Some DJ's would stick a label on the sleeve, or scribble the BPM on the record label.

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