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Decribe what EDM is to you
Posted on: 19.07.2013 by Wynell Muma
Ok so there is loads of confusion around this thing called 'EDM' which is short for 'electronic dance music' I do believe. The confusion comes from what music is classed as 'EDM'. Some say it is any genre of dance music but to me, I don't believe it is. When I believe of EDM I believe of things like electro house, commercial dance music, obscene dubstep. Artists like Knife party or skrillex fit the bill quite well!

However I don't believe that things like deep house or techno for example comes under the phrase EDM. yes it is dance music however it's a more underground scene. It's a completely different circle of people than what I would class as EDM fans. Does anyone else agree?

I've been told that my latest mix is classed as EDM but I wouldn't class it as that at all
https://soundcloud.com/meetsmandy/ouse-presents-breach-dj-comp

What are your thoughts on this?
Lashawn Maycock
22.07.2013
Originally Posted by oliosky
EDM is just an updated term for cheese
heh heh, best answer yet
Ulysses Vittetoe
21.07.2013
Originally Posted by iambiggles
I can honestly say I dont know a single DJ who would refer to it as EDM unless it was ironically/sarcastically, or in an interview with an American magazine/website - but even then they normally caveat it with an explanation

But I'm talking about DJ's that have been in the business 20+ years, so have a differnt experience than newer exponents.
I know some who do and others who don't. I don't believe it's indicative of someone knowing or not knowing their stuff, at all. Also, you could probably attribute the "not a lot of older DJs use it" thing to them being around before the term became popular, and are used to calling it by another name.
Yu Santellano
21.07.2013
Originally Posted by DISaS73R
Metal and punk are subgenres of rock, so that wouldn't make any sense and is quite unlike EDM.
All I'm saying is that the semantics are the same - of course EDM is a bad choice of words, as would be calling metal/punk guitar music. But nobody actually does that :P
Olin Easley
21.07.2013
Originally Posted by CountenanT
I don't particularly like the term as - like has been said - calling a certain type of dance music "EDM" is like calling rock, metal and punk "guitar music".
Metal and punk are subgenres of rock, so that wouldn't make any sense and is quite unlike EDM.
Anibal Hoormann
21.07.2013
Originally Posted by iambiggles
All EDM means to me is that the user of the phrase is a newbie to Dance music culture.
^AMEN.

But yh EDM is just like the big family of every single kind of music made through a computer.
Armanda Yankauskas
21.07.2013
Originally Posted by gareth186
This. Edm is a broad term for all genres within the field. Although i believe underground people stay away from the term as they like to differentiate sounds (deep/tech)... This doesn't make edm incorrect though
thats what i've been saying! lmao
Marleen Fargason
21.07.2013
Originally Posted by DISaS73R
Hahahahaha this.

I actually don't get what's so wrong with the term EDM - just because electronic music is getting popular doesn't make the term stupid. It's so much better than calling everything "techno" anyway.
This. Edm is a broad term for all genres within the field. Although i believe underground people stay away from the term as they like to differentiate sounds (deep/tech)... This doesn't make edm incorrect though
Armanda Yankauskas
21.07.2013
Originally Posted by iambiggles
I can honestly say I dont know a single DJ who would refer to it as EDM unless it was ironically/sarcastically, or in an interview with an American magazine/website - but even then they normally caveat it with an explanation

But I'm talking about DJ's that have been in the business 20+ years, so have a differnt experience than newer exponents.
DJ's arent inclined to call it that cuz they want their specific genre to be known. or they just wanna be snobs. commenting on age is just dumb. im just 21 years old and i dont like the term at all. i find that its just redundant since all dance music is pretty much made electronically. but the media needs a go to name to call something that embodies all genres without getting people angry bout it to a certain extent.

Originally Posted by Jester
The term EDM isn't really used outside the USA.
This too is very true
Lashawn Maycock
22.07.2013
Originally Posted by oliosky
EDM is just an updated term for cheese
heh heh, best answer yet
Johnetta Olewine
22.07.2013
EDM is just an updated term for cheese
Teresia Janusch
22.07.2013
The term 'EDM' is not new, its been around for many many years, and personally I would class any type of dance music produced electronically i.e. with synths etc, as EDM, be it Kraftwerk, New Order, Deadmau5, Skrillex, The Prodigy, Chase & Status. The term EDM IMO is much more than just a genre
Augustine Mitzen
22.07.2013
no i don't believe you did, but that's a good one
Lashawn Maycock
22.07.2013
EDM - Collective term for mainstream, TOP40, chart friendly, pop dance music ala Guetta et al.

Also can be used to describe the last few years of mainstream popularity of such music in the US market place - big labels out to make money, bandwagon jumping, making money, over the top, pre recorded shows, making money, celeb/corporate endorsements, making money, about as far away from the House Music movement of the mid-late 80's as you could possibly get basically... oh did I say, all about making money?
Albina Androski
21.07.2013
I like to mark "EDM" tracks in my composer field. I use it to mark those popular producers. Guetta, Zedd, Porter, etc.


That way I can keep it out of my Electro House and Progressive House, Club and Top40 folders.



EDM on community s like these just means the whole genre....on the street it means the type of electogressivewaitforthedropdude tracks.
Ulysses Vittetoe
21.07.2013
Originally Posted by iambiggles
I can honestly say I dont know a single DJ who would refer to it as EDM unless it was ironically/sarcastically, or in an interview with an American magazine/website - but even then they normally caveat it with an explanation

But I'm talking about DJ's that have been in the business 20+ years, so have a differnt experience than newer exponents.
I know some who do and others who don't. I don't believe it's indicative of someone knowing or not knowing their stuff, at all. Also, you could probably attribute the "not a lot of older DJs use it" thing to them being around before the term became popular, and are used to calling it by another name.
Yu Santellano
21.07.2013
Originally Posted by DISaS73R
Metal and punk are subgenres of rock, so that wouldn't make any sense and is quite unlike EDM.
All I'm saying is that the semantics are the same - of course EDM is a bad choice of words, as would be calling metal/punk guitar music. But nobody actually does that :P
Hellen Mindrup
21.07.2013
Means nothing to me
Adrian Zadrozny
21.07.2013
A joke now. I usually cringe when I hear the word or term "EDM".
Olin Easley
21.07.2013
Originally Posted by CountenanT
I don't particularly like the term as - like has been said - calling a certain type of dance music "EDM" is like calling rock, metal and punk "guitar music".
Metal and punk are subgenres of rock, so that wouldn't make any sense and is quite unlike EDM.
Contessa Atanasoff
21.07.2013
The term that people use when they really don't know dance music that well. Any real fan of the MUSIC rather than the SCENE rarely uses that term. Personally, I believe it's a huge over-generalization of the genre; kinda like calling everything with a guitar rock n roll.
Yu Santellano
21.07.2013
I don't particularly like the term as - like has been said - calling a certain type of dance music "EDM" is like calling rock, metal and punk "guitar music".

However, I find it easy to use it to describe that particular style of house music with "build up/drum roll/hard electronic drop with lots of wiggly sounds", the likes of Afrojack, Hardwell, Hard Rock Sofa etc.
Anibal Hoormann
21.07.2013
Originally Posted by iambiggles
All EDM means to me is that the user of the phrase is a newbie to Dance music culture.
^AMEN.

But yh EDM is just like the big family of every single kind of music made through a computer.
Lillia Datson
21.07.2013
To me, it defines much of the popular dance music that is current at the moment with masses.

Mostly that stuff was included in that 'epic mashleg' mix by Daleri. Im not really a fan.
Armanda Yankauskas
21.07.2013
Originally Posted by gareth186
This. Edm is a broad term for all genres within the field. Although i believe underground people stay away from the term as they like to differentiate sounds (deep/tech)... This doesn't make edm incorrect though
thats what i've been saying! lmao
Marleen Fargason
21.07.2013
Originally Posted by DISaS73R
Hahahahaha this.

I actually don't get what's so wrong with the term EDM - just because electronic music is getting popular doesn't make the term stupid. It's so much better than calling everything "techno" anyway.
This. Edm is a broad term for all genres within the field. Although i believe underground people stay away from the term as they like to differentiate sounds (deep/tech)... This doesn't make edm incorrect though
Brunilda Kora
21.07.2013
Originally Posted by iambiggles
All EDM means to me is that the user of the phrase is a newbie to Dance music culture.
/thread
Armanda Yankauskas
21.07.2013
Originally Posted by iambiggles
I can honestly say I dont know a single DJ who would refer to it as EDM unless it was ironically/sarcastically, or in an interview with an American magazine/website - but even then they normally caveat it with an explanation

But I'm talking about DJ's that have been in the business 20+ years, so have a differnt experience than newer exponents.
DJ's arent inclined to call it that cuz they want their specific genre to be known. or they just wanna be snobs. commenting on age is just dumb. im just 21 years old and i dont like the term at all. i find that its just redundant since all dance music is pretty much made electronically. but the media needs a go to name to call something that embodies all genres without getting people angry bout it to a certain extent.

Originally Posted by Jester
The term EDM isn't really used outside the USA.
This too is very true
Latoria Kavulich
21.07.2013
The term EDM isn't really used outside the USA.
Qiana Castellucci
21.07.2013
Originally Posted by firebr4nd
I enjoy all of those and if someone asked me if I listened to EDM I would say "yes", referring to those.
I can honestly say I dont know a single DJ who would refer to it as EDM unless it was ironically/sarcastically, or in an interview with an American magazine/website - but even then they normally caveat it with an explanation

But I'm talking about DJ's that have been in the business 20+ years, so have a differnt experience than newer exponents.
Armanda Yankauskas
21.07.2013
i cant believe people dont realize that the term means what it is. why does everyone gotta have their own interpretation? EDM = electronic dance music = all dance music made electronically. thats like me saying the definition of red is different IMO, fucking insanity. everyone just wants there "genre" of music not to be called it, because they believe its "better" get or whatever the case may be. get off your dam high horse dude. if its so horrible why are people making hundreds of thousands of dollars making it? so dumb... so i suppose in your case that you dont wanna be called "EDM" be happy they bundled you with the cats that are making the bucks, not the other way around. dumb square.
Gaynell Rydberg
20.07.2013
Originally Posted by IzConcept
When I interviewed Markus Schulz, he described EDM as an umbrella that covered up the rest of electronic music, but once the rain would stop and the umbrella was lifted, people would be able to distinguish their own preferences.

Not to spam or anything, but you can find the interview in YouTube, just google newbeatsnow Markus schulz
Markus Schulz is da bomb. Great analogy.
Ulysses Vittetoe
20.07.2013
Originally Posted by iambiggles
Most people who play/listen to real house (as it proper soulful vocal house), techno(the real detroit stuff), disco, or whatever, would be unlikely to use the phrase.
I enjoy all of those and if someone asked me if I listened to EDM I would say "yes", referring to those.
Norman Haraldsen
20.07.2013
When I interviewed Markus Schulz, he described EDM as an umbrella that covered up the rest of electronic music, but once the rain would stop and the umbrella was lifted, people would be able to distinguish their own preferences.

Not to spam or anything, but you can find the interview in YouTube, just google newbeatsnow Markus schulz
Kellie Myrum
20.07.2013
It's not techno and tech house

That's a music frame that mixed with controllerism techniques becomes dubstep.
Sonja Roybal
20.07.2013
The phrase EDM just means something a lot different than it did 5 years ago. It was just the umbrella term for dance music, like electronica before it. Now, it's used to describe a specific genre that I've always called "stadium dance music." Big, cheesy and over the top. The lowest common denominator loves it because it's accessible and easy to follow. That's fine. IMO, the more underground stuff has always been more creative and enjoyable, but its more what we call in drum and bass, "head" music.
Qiana Castellucci
20.07.2013
All EDM means to me is that the user of the phrase is a newbie to Dance music culture. EDM is simply a descriptor used by lazy journos in the US to describe a particular sub-genre of dance music. Most people who play/listen to real house (as it proper soulful vocal house), techno(the real detroit stuff), disco, or whatever, would be unlikely to use the phrase.

It's kind of become the go-to name for Dance in the same way that "rave" or "acid" was in the late 80's early 90's.

Hopefully Its use will die a natural death.
Doreen Schurle
20.07.2013
Originally Posted by DISaS73R
It's music. It's electronic. It's made for dancing. It's obviously electronic dance music.
+1.
Olin Easley
20.07.2013
It's music. It's electronic. It's made for dancing. It's obviously electronic dance music.
Doreen Schurle
20.07.2013
Originally Posted by dj subculture
Well by that logic, then this is EDM too:
... yes?

It's EDM, in the subgenre of 80s Disco / Electropop.
Fannie Ohayre
20.07.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Of course it's EDM. It's house music, not brass band or Peruvian panflute music.
Well by that logic, then this is EDM too:

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