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Who thinks we'll see Traktor Pro 3 soon?

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Who thinks we'll see Traktor Pro 3 soon? Posted on: 19.12.2012 by Johnsie Kingrea I know updates are usually followed by a big sale but who believes well see Traktor Pro 3 teasers in the next 3 months? And if we do what are you expecting? I have a hard time seeing NI drop video into Traktor, this would really clutter up the interface and I'm not sure where they can take the remix decks further. I also don't believe well ever see 3rd party plug in support as this is really asking for trouble (they can't be responsible for program stability if people are loading various 3rd party plug ins) I feel like Maschine would play a bigger part in TP3 but this would also have to bring something to the table beyond playing loops, as this can already be accomplished with the remix decks. We could see some better midi out for sending to visual apps as Shiftees S4 had a modified traktor version for special midi out capabilities for the mostly robot shows. What do you guys believe, what would blow you away?
Xenia Gorin 02.01.2013	Video.........
Len Lukawski 02.01.2013	They gave us a resizable window - what more do you want???
Danae Dumler 03.01.2013	Originally Posted by scamo This is not true. With the release of the F1 and the uproar of users who wanted the mix deck cells all mappable, NI also said to their answer, "we'll unlock them sooner or later" that they are very much looking into improving the mapping system in a future release. If I can find the blog post, I'll link it. Thanks for the link - good to hear. I pretty much stopped paying attention to what NI was saying after the whole F1 fiasco so I missed this. It would be great to see improvements in mapping controllers, and that might be the one feature I'd pay money for in a new release. Other things, like more flexible beat gridding, would be great improvements as well, but as far as I'm concerned making the controller manager more usable is the killer feature that Traktor has been missing for way too long.
Kristin Tesfamichael 02.01.2013	Originally Posted by SquireC CDJ 850 HID integration. I'm sick of waiting. Leaning more towards the thought that it's never going to happen. this
Caridad Fan 01.01.2013	Originally Posted by LoopCat ^ It would be awesome if they had a CDJ style controller that could connect with your laptop over wifi or USB that showed track decks as the display and could switch to decks 3 & 4 on each controller. I still like the idea of having an external mixer and controllers separate. Another idea would be a cdj style controller with Traktor software built in so all you needed was a usb. I know it sounds like Rekord box but a Traktor version with 2 decks on each would be so good. This is probably one of the first things I would like. A CDJ style without the cd player but that won't be interesting until pioneer does it. More mapping options. Why isn't traktor sending by midi the track info? It would be really easier for hardware developers to get a screen on their controllers! Level of customization! I can't just say this enough. Traktor should be modulized. I guess that Traktor is using already a good development pattern and who knows oop based so... Why can't it be modulized? Why should it be? The less modules active the less power the computer needs, the more stability and better interface. There is so much thing about Traktor interface, for my usage, that don't make sense to have and then the stability / performance matter. It runs just fine and stable now but it could be better! Why can't I have big time info on the track for example? Customization customization customization! If I had a good C++ developer interested I would make a new software. NI is forgetting some users and usages of Traktor.
Rey Holubar 02.01.2013	Originally Posted by djproben They've pretty much said straight up that they have no interest in improving the mapping interface. I'd love to hear that this has changed but until then I don't have much hope for better mapping, and certainly not a mapping language. This is not true. With the release of the F1 and the uproar of users who wanted the mix deck cells all mappable, NI also said to their answer, "we'll unlock them sooner or later" that they are very much looking into improving the mapping system in a future release. If I can find the blog post, I'll link it. Edit: Got it. http://www.djranking s.com/2012/05/0...he-kontrol-f1/ When pressed for more details about the release of the update to the controller window (which this community has been requesting for years now) we were told: “Now is basically the right time to have that discussion [build the open API] … for now we need to create the new controls, test and implement them. We are definitely looking into this.” scamo
Marlena Filippo 01.01.2013	better mapping interface that will work something like ableton - just hit the button/ knob on screen and then on hardware also unlocking to map the remix decks probably an official way to connect traktor with maschine also being able to have another 2 decks, hiding in the background, maybe for live input or something like that, would be awesome, cos we all run out of decks sometimes
Rolanda Clodfelder 01.01.2013	EDIT: Deflated: You can suck the life right out of a track with the key knob... let me revise my request - key change with a huge range that doesn't sound thin Not really possible regardless of what you use, what you are basically doing when you change key is cutting the track up into small segments and stretching them out or compressing them together to change the pitch....
Johnsie Kingrea 31.12.2012	Originally Posted by djproben They've pretty much said straight up that they have no interest in improving the mapping interface. I'd love to hear that this has changed but until then I don't have much hope for better mapping, and certainly not a mapping language. Traktor by far has the best mapping interface.... for advanced users. Even to map simple controls in midi mode to my F1 can take an afternoon to troubleshoot and make sure nothing is interfering with each other. I see no reason why they can't allow mapping in the GUI. For example, right click the play button, assign midi, press button and controller and like that you're done. Any modifiers and additional things could be dealt with in the existing mapping interface.
Danae Dumler 31.12.2012	Originally Posted by DirtyNerd As a computer science guy, I like the idea of a mapping language a lot...specially if it allows the creation of user-made MacroFx etc. But I just don't see NI going this route. They've pretty much said straight up that they have no interest in improving the mapping interface. I'd love to hear that this has changed but until then I don't have much hope for better mapping, and certainly not a mapping language.
Rosina Steinkuehler 31.12.2012	It would be fantastic if they could build in some kind of scripting language like VDJ has. Sometimes I feel trapped in the Traktor box and would love to write code to extend it to do certain tasks.
Shan Bauerly 31.12.2012	Wow, have you ever just made my day! EDIT: Deflated: You can suck the life right out of a track with the key knob... let me revise my request - key change with a huge range that doesn't sound thin.
Celine Surico 31.12.2012	Originally Posted by HigherFi Not quite. I'd like to manipulate them independently of one another in order to change the key of the track and not [necessarily] adjust BPM. Make sense? ? That's already available, the key control.
Shan Bauerly 31.12.2012	Originally Posted by Stewe Maybe you're looking for Keylock on (pitch) under Track Deck commands? Not quite. I'd like to manipulate them independently of one another in order to change the key of the track and not [necessarily] adjust BPM. Make sense?
Rochel Tellefsen 30.12.2012	Originally Posted by Stewe Maybe you're looking for Keylock on (pitch) under Track Deck commands? +1 Yeah Im pretty sure what you're looking to do is already possible with the Key knob.
Valeri Millstein 30.12.2012	Better iTunes integration, more intuitive Controller Manager, Maschine integration and a Z4.
Hipolito Scionti 31.12.2012	itunes node artwork i can not understand nor do i believe this is cpu intensive
Rolanda Clodfelder 31.12.2012	Integration of a Native Control Mobile App for: Coverflow Record Crate browsing Track to Deck/sampledeck Loading Quick Preview button with strip-search/Scrub under the track in focus Ideally with the following included - but not really nessesary (would be handy though). Traktor Playlist/Gridding/Cue/Loop Point Preparation Screen like rekordbox Streaming from Device like Rekordbox Why ? .. So I can just preview and load from a handheld device that I walk/dance around the box. One thing that really pisses me off with DJ software since day one is needing to search for stuff in playlists, album art made things a tiny bit better (why not coverflow ?) but would prefer the laptop was not looked at or touched at all during a set assuming the controller has enough indication of whats going on.
Kellie Myrum 31.12.2012	Originally Posted by HigherFi I'd also like to be able to adjust pitch and BPM independently. Ability to "warp" the track key on the fly would change things fundamentally for me. Maybe you're looking for Keylock on (pitch) under Track Deck commands?
Shan Bauerly 30.12.2012	I'd also like to be able to adjust pitch and BPM independently. Ability to "warp" the track key on the fly would change things fundamentally for me.
Rocco Fiveash 22.12.2012	Originally Posted by MaxOne Seperate HID jog wheel controllers but with out the pioneer price tag would be nice. With waveforms mega I thought the price point for DDJ-SX was great; no complaints here.
Jetta Drenzek 22.12.2012	Stability wise, touching wood, I have NEVER had Traktor crash on me after two years of use. I've never seen Serato fail either, but I've seen VDJ pack in more times than I can remember, on varying systems with varying users. Such a badly coded program (No malice intended towards the VDJ development team, it's just mine and others' experience with the program over the years) Today I realised what I wanted in the controller editor, a folder system so you can organise and group your mappings, and re arrange them how you see fit, because it gets a bit bananas when you map out your entire controller with two shift functions and instant FX. It would also be cool if you could save the groupings, as like a sort of module, then you could just save that bit and send it to someone for them to load up, instead of having to overwrite the entirety of their own mapping just for yours.
Len Lukawski 21.12.2012	Originally Posted by Scaper7 Solidify what's already there. Improve stability, processing efficiency and sound quality. Make it run clean and lean. Integrate Maschine output streams directly into Traktor Maschine decks for mixing and sync like any other deck in Traktor. THIS - plus a fully customizable UI, There's SO much I wanna take out of the interface....
Breanne Penge 22.12.2012	Stability is the one thing keeping me from looking at Traktor...well that and lack of video
Janyce Henningson 22.12.2012	I agree with stewe, more modifiers would be nice. I don't like the idea of opening a scripting language - Traktor is buggy enough without needing any help there. I actually want them to stop adding things now - 2.6 has evreything you need - just make it rock-solid-crash-free.
Chun Douthat 21.12.2012	No it's called "radio" and is commercially available since a couple of decades
Bunny Sockel 20.12.2012	Originally Posted by hola amigos I want the software to mix music by itself so i dont need to touch the mixer. That's called laziness...
Glennis Bischoff 20.12.2012	Originally Posted by hola amigos I want the software to mix music by itself so i dont need to touch the mixer. traktor can already do that...
Emanuel Kepics 20.12.2012	Solidify what's already there. Improve stability, processing efficiency and sound quality. Make it run clean and lean. Integrate Maschine output streams directly into Traktor Maschine decks for mixing and sync like any other deck in Traktor.
Jolynn Schroyer 19.12.2012	I want the software to mix music by itself so i dont need to touch the mixer.
Yuki Koeppel 19.12.2012	clear and intuitive midi mapping interface. we all use this and it is a mystery and menace to use. make it simple! very simple!
Nedra Fresneda 19.12.2012	Originally Posted by botstein I would be all over waveforms on controllers. I have a lot of other wishes, but certainly, marrying Traktor and Maschine would be fantastic. I'd love to see track info and selected fx with parameter names (rate, feedback, etc per fx) on Maschine's displays.
Hipolito Scionti 19.12.2012	Seperate HID jog wheel controllers but with out the pioneer price tag would be nice. With waveforms mega
Ming Devis 19.12.2012	^ It would be awesome if they had a CDJ style controller that could connect with your laptop over wifi or USB that showed track decks as the display and could switch to decks 3 & 4 on each controller. I still like the idea of having an external mixer and controllers separate. Another idea would be a cdj style controller with Traktor software built in so all you needed was a usb. I know it sounds like Rekord box but a Traktor version with 2 decks on each would be so good.
Ervin Calvery 19.12.2012	I would be all over waveforms on controllers. I have a lot of other wishes, but certainly, marrying Traktor and Maschine would be fantastic.
Ming Devis 19.12.2012	All these suggestions sound awesome
Rochel Gleese 19.12.2012	I believe we'll see NI drop some new hardware: NI Z5 (4 Traktor decks and 1 Maschine deck) Maschine will be integrated with the Traktor interface somehow and will require Traktor 3 NI T1 (Traktor Deck controller) will rival the CDJ2000 will require Traktor 3 They need more products aimed at the EDM (hate that word) DJ, a huge markets just opened up in America again. If they can nail a performance Scratch enabled jog wheel controller, they'll sell like hoecakes, make them Serato enabled again. * Warp markers etc offline time stretch have already come to Maschine * Plugins support * More than 4 decks? Not sure if they'll go this way or just keep Traktor in DJ mode, but they could easily make Traktor more Ableton like but without the DAW function (more DJ/Live performance) * Traktor basically becomes NI mixer section for Maschine, clip based sample packs, sell more remix decks
Kellie Myrum 19.12.2012	Originally Posted by beaubryte You hit home with this one! It was a joke really As things are going advanced mappers should wait for this hopefully till Traktor 4!
Claire Auyeung 19.12.2012	Originally Posted by Stewe 64 modifiers and 4 condition slots. You hit home with this one! In my opinion, fixing the save bugs that 2.6.0 has means heaven to me. Having such big problems right now. Also, -When Maschine gets integrated it should be a deck flavor option that looks like a small Maschine player, no additional software needed. -For those speculating: There's been a NI tradition of releasing a 0.1 version 2 months after the 0.0 version. So maybe before X-mas?
Celine Surico 19.12.2012	It's pretty clear that Traktor 3.0 or maybe even before that will get full Maschine integration. To speculate more, some other things I believe will be there and will put Ableton into a tight spot as Ableton is so busy working on their mediocre DAW and forgot it was a live instrument: * grid mark support for handling variated music tracks * More integration to swap in and out clip sets very easily * Display the clip sets outside the F1, support non-F1 controllers for clip triggering * (I hope) a second plug-in process where to host VSTs for Traktor integration * Some basic Soundflower-like support to route internal hosted audio sources in and out from Traktor * Smart playlists (iTunes like) * Learn button to quickly MIDI-assign any controller's any control to any feature visible. and some other stuff I can't believe of within a minute.

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