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Hawtin Effect
Posted on: 02.11.2009 by Esta Christi
Hey guys,

this has buggin me for a while now, hawtin always uses this one effect in his sets, i cant figure out how he does it and its really hard to descibe it here. il give it a shot though: the effect sounds kinda like the pioneer robot effect and once he starts it he increses the "pitch" (maybe better to say frequency i mean how "high" it sounds) building up a drop in itself. it completely distorts the original sound. if any of u guys have the song handy, assign the source by reboot has a similar effect at 4:17. any ideas? cant find it in traktor pro.

Cheers!
Valeri Millstein
31.01.2013
Originally Posted by Stewe
Strange isn't it? Can't tell what else could go wrong there... btw I made a quick demo vid:

Sounds great, if the MF Pro gets a new MKII I will map this out!
Kellie Myrum
31.01.2013
Originally Posted by neilmcm
Stewe tried setting up the dubfire effect but when I press the button both effects come on but the on button for FX Unit 1 stays on when I release the button , i have both units on buttons set to hold.
Strange isn't it? Can't tell what else could go wrong there... btw I made a quick demo vid:

Lynetta Stanislav
31.01.2013
Stewe tried setting up the dubfire effect but when I press the button both effects come on but the on button for FX Unit 1 stays on when I release the button , i have both units on buttons set to hold.
Kellie Myrum
31.01.2013
Originally Posted by Superfreak
I know about FX group mode/single mode etc. but the 'par' and '0.780' etc, i did not?
Its long for effect parameter and it's value

Also, what do the 'FX1 ON' FX2 ON' buttons on the X1 do? They dont light up or anything when I press them...
Those are engaging FX unit per deck (buttons on your mixer in screen).
Temple Cervelli
31.01.2013
Originally Posted by Stewe
Dubfire effect

Group mode: Delay / d/w - 0.400 / par - 0.700 (unit 1)
Single mode: Delay T3 / d/w - 0.450 / par1 - 0.800 / par2 - 0.780 / par3 - 1.000 / button 2,3 - 0ff (unit 2)

FX ON button activate both at same time, just make sure to set both for interaction hold!
Sorry to sound like a noob, but I really did not understand this....

I know about FX group mode/single mode etc. but the 'par' and '0.780' etc, i did not?
Also, what do the 'FX1 ON' FX2 ON' buttons on the X1 do? They dont light up or anything when I press them...

THanks.
Kellie Myrum
31.01.2013
Dubfire effect

Group mode: Delay / d/w - 0.400 / par - 0.700 (unit 1)
Single mode: Delay T3 / d/w - 0.450 / par1 - 0.800 / par2 - 0.780 / par3 - 1.000 / button 2,3 - 0ff (unit 2)

FX ON button activate both at same time, just make sure to set both for interaction hold!
Temple Cervelli
01.02.2013
Originally Posted by neilmcm
Wheres the video ??
Wow, sorry man, I thought i posted the link in, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...EzVWyobA#at=62

Adding something to my previous post, at 1:20 of this video, you see dubfire do this same effect, but this time you see exactly what he does, and he presses the 'FX 1 ON' button ah the top of the kontrol X1, the button lights up and then turns off as soon as he lets go, I have always wondered, what exactly do them to FX1 and FX2 'ON' buttons at the top of an X1 do? I have never used them once on mine, and nothing happens when I press them either?

THanks.
Lynetta Stanislav
31.01.2013
Wheres the video ??
Temple Cervelli
31.01.2013
Originally Posted by alien2k
Do you mean the effect on this vid at 2:00?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jx7XBjeVWw

YES! exactly how he does it in the video you just posted. Precisely at 2:04.
I've been wanting to know how to do this too, does hawtin do this effect with ableton/plugin? Or can i t be one by combining some FX in Trakor/X1?

Also, the DUBFIRE effect.... I've only ever heard Adam Beyer do it once, and it didn't sound that great.
But here's a video of him using this effect, at exactly 1:00... I see he quickly presses an effect button on the X1, so maybe he has always got it set and the dry/wet parameter knob turned to the right point.

Thanks.
Simone Defrancisco
31.01.2013
I believe there is a way to make the Hawtin effect in Traktor 2.6 w/ tape delay in advanced mode. But it requires several work arounds.

To start, assign an FX unit w/ tape delay selected. It must be in advanced/single mode, and the unit should be ON. BUT make sure D/W is at 0%.

To activate assign a button to feedback (button 2), and assign the same button to turn the FX unit OFF.

Assign a knob to control D/W and a knob to control the speed (knob 3).

Press the button assigned to control button 2, that that also turns off the unit at the same time.

Activate the amount of effect you want by using the D/W knob, and use knob 3 to control speed of the Hawtin effect.

I've got this to work and the next step is to map it to my XoneK2. I'm believeing about using (2) buttons & (2) knobs.

That's just a quick overview and I'll try to map it out w/ instructions to post on the Ultimate FX Thread: http://community .djranking s.com/showthr...t=63445&page=8

Here is what it should sound like at 4:07 in PSP 42 Video, but the track will be playing along w/ Hawtin effect that you control:
http://youtu.be/-DdFq5RdK7w?t=4m7s
Sandie Kristufek
16.01.2013
Haha shit! Forgot I was using search!
Loyce Mekonen
16.01.2013
Holy necropost batman!

But in all seriousness, nice tutorial!
Sandie Kristufek
15.01.2013
Maybe try this...
Esteban Hashbarger
11.12.2010
Originally Posted by denisps2
Here is a picture of the vst. can you tel me how u set it up any of the buttons need to be pushed etc.

it is actually quite easy. figured it out for myself. just put the plugin on a return track then use the effect as a send. because of this you should turn the effect to 100% wet, called output mix on this plugin.
feedback knob to around 50% but try other settings as well.
set the desired delay. i chose around 50ms in my example.
the pitch effect is controlled with the manual x1 nob.

setup two knobs on your controller. one for the send level and the other for the manual x1 nob.

play around with other settings and combos. this isn't the only cool one.

however, even easier than all this... read this article:
http://www.djranking s.com/2009/03/0...up-drum-fills/
Shane Golia
27.09.2010
Originally Posted by JCribb
Unfortunately, I don't believe it's quite that simple, although I wish it was.

For instance, I am pretty sure that Hawtin is NOT using the T3 Advanced Delay here at 1:29: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpA7iAnwxUg

He is purportedly using the PSP 42 plugin in Ableton.

I'd LOVE to be able to emulate the sound like he is doing in this one so cleanly and with such control.
Can anyone emulate this sound he is doing at 1:29? I have played around with the PSP 42, and can't make it sound the same. Is Hawtin running an Ableton clip running through the PSP 42 over the Traktor song? Sorry for obsessing, but I believe it sounds cool.......
Eloy Snopkowski
25.09.2010
Originally Posted by denisps2
Here is a picture of the vst. can you tel me how u set it up any of the buttons need to be pushed etc.
most of the options are pretty easy to read (and what they do) the name is above 0_o best bet is to experiment by yourself ...its the best way to learn.

Like someone already said to me ...dont wait after ppl you will always be disapointed ...just do it yourself
Lilliana Perris
24.09.2010
Yeah....much cleaner that the T3 Delay....but the same thing in essence I believe.
Shane Golia
24.09.2010
Unfortunately, I don't believe it's quite that simple, although I wish it was.

For instance, I am pretty sure that Hawtin is NOT using the T3 Advanced Delay here at 1:29: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpA7iAnwxUg

He is purportedly using the PSP 42 plugin in Ableton.

I'd LOVE to be able to emulate the sound like he is doing in this one so cleanly and with such control.

24.09.2010
Originally Posted by mnml
been searchin all evenin but can only find richie using the effects you have already suggested. its in this song here, if not to the full extent, starts at 4:14.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2ULD0j8tWw
un-quantized low cut delay being shortened.
Lilliana Perris
24.09.2010
Originally Posted by alien2k
In that case he is using T3 delay effect without the Quant button and he is increasing the speed of the delay

I have been using an APC40 Traktor mapping and it uses this Hawtin Effect.

It is indeed the T3....in advanced mode....can;t remember the exact setting though.....but it does make the track dequantize and get messier and messier.....till you turn it off.

Its nice!

Shane Golia
23.09.2010
Resurrecting this thread.

I don't know why, buy I find myself obsessed with trying to reproduce this clean sounding wind up and wind down Hawtin Effect.

I am feeding Traktor into Ableton Live and I have the PSP 42 plug-in on the Audio track receiving Traktor.

No matter how I tweak the knobs or the delay timing, I can't make it sound clean like Hawtin does effortlessly. I even tried setting up the PSP 42 on a return and then would send just a loop over and that sounded like crapola.

What am I doing wrong here?
Delila Vandommelen
05.11.2009
@djrockytharp : One of the remixes of Yeke Yeke by Mory Kante.

edit : that one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AUfOaKRayY
Walton Sofge
05.11.2009
Originally Posted by alien2k
Do you mean the effect on this vid at 2:00?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jx7XBjeVWw
Tracklisting @ 17:30? That song is fresh...
Delila Vandommelen
04.11.2009
Originally Posted by mnml
if any of u guys have the song handy, assign the source by reboot has a similar effect at 4:17
So as other have pointed out the Hawtin Effect ™ is not the same thing, but you can reproduce the effect in assign the source (dig that one, was painfully slow coming out on beatport) with, indeed just the T3 delay.
Amount to about 50, feedback to your liking but freq should be higher than half. Start quantized, with an off beat speed, increase the speed, cut quantize and drop it quite fast below 50% to get sh*t going out of sync as if you were pulling back vinyl.

gl!
morales morales
04.11.2009
Here is a picture of the vst. can you tel me how u set it up any of the buttons need to be pushed etc.
Sagi Ohayon
04.11.2009
i tried it and it definitely goes in the same way but i wouldn
morales morales
04.11.2009
Originally Posted by beatkind
he
Belen Wermes
04.11.2009
Originally Posted by JesC
thank vHoff ur da man, wonder if it work w/T3 (Keeping it old school) <(----Starting to sound like steveboyett!



here here. i'm still rocking traktor 3.2 ... lovin it and still learning new ways to use it!
Irwin Ney
04.11.2009
hey JesC since you liked it and you are a moderator, we could make a thread with only Fx cases, dont you believe?
I would start it if I was a bit more experienced DJ to contribute with others...
We'll rise the community access for sure, everybody wants to use FX, it's the funniest part of traktor, at least for me

Create a template post like this:

Effect Name:
( )Super, ( )Advanced, ( )Simple
Best used in: (Electro, House, Psytrance, DnB, etc)
Mapping Instructions: (optional)
Method Description: (description of how is maked the FX on your hardware of choice)
Sample mp3 (soundcloud or youtube) embed

What do you believe?
Cristian Carmona
04.11.2009
Originally Posted by V-Hoff
you can check this effect sample at the traktor bible site:
http://www.traktorbible.com/en/fx_usecases.aspx
let us know if it's the right FX
thank vHoff ur da man, wonder if it work w/T3 (Keeping it old school) <(----Starting to sound like steveboyett!
Doug Bieling
03.11.2009
Originally Posted by mnml
been searchin all evenin but can only find richie using the effects you have already suggested. its in this song here, if not to the full extent, starts at 4:14.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2ULD0j8tWw
Thats just an echo being wound right down if you mean whats happening at 4.14. Sounds like a bit more happenin afterwards though.
Esta Christi
03.11.2009
thanks v-hoff thats a pretty useful page!
@beatkind yeah that sounds right, the delay t3 sounds similar but is not quite the same. havnt got ableton unfortunately so the traktor one will have to do :-(
Sagi Ohayon
04.11.2009
he
Irwin Ney
03.11.2009
you can check this effect sample at the traktor bible site:
http://www.traktorbible.com/en/fx_usecases.aspx
let us know if it's the right FX
Esta Christi
02.11.2009
just been playing round with the delay t3 and FRZ and FR.R buttons. believe u guys are right with the delay t3 and FRZ and FR.R buttons. what exactly do these do?
Esta Christi
02.11.2009
been searchin all evenin but can only find richie using the effects you have already suggested. its in this song here, if not to the full extent, starts at 4:14.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2ULD0j8tWw
Freeman Ciezki
02.11.2009
he means this one at 3:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB64GWW8YfA
Mechelle Duncil
02.11.2009
Find an example on a vid or set and we will figure it out
Esta Christi
02.11.2009
@alien that not quite the one i meant but i was also always wonderin how he did that! cheers!
the one im lookin for is his "other signature effect" haha. sorry for being so wage guys.
Mechelle Duncil
02.11.2009
In that case he is using T3 delay effect without the Quant button and he is increasing the speed of the delay

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