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EZF NY Cancelled Posted on: 01.09.2013 by Isela Retano http://m.billboard.com/articles/colu...date-cancelled That was surprising..
Isela Retano 02.09.2013	Kid took six hits of molly. http://gothamist.com/2013/09/02/woma...c_zoo_repo.php
Dino Hapgood 02.09.2013	So...your chance of dying at ezoo (estimating 100K people over the three days) is 2/100k... You are just as likely to accidentally drown as an adult male according to the CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6119a4.htm)... Should we ban swimming at the beach, lakes, and backyard pools? Kid jumped two fences and got his head kicked off at an amusement park...should we ban those as well? Alcohol is a staggering FOURTEEN TIMES AS DEADLY as attending a festival and using Molly. Using data from 2007, alcohol related deaths claimed 28.3/100k people in the US (http://ibis.health.state.nm.us/indic...elatedDth.html). Alcohol just happens to be a socially accepted form of drug use (and abuse). Look, I went to Ultra for three days, and I took "pop-rocks" every single day, and I didn't die. I felt great everyday, actually, and the only thing that got to me was the loud music and exhaustion from 3 days of dancing. In fact, I'm pretty sure the only people that died at Ultra were 2 people setting up the stages (a terrible, and sad accident)... Maybe we should just ban people who are too stupid to function from attending these events? Believe it or not, intelligence of the population is normally distributed, so there are going to be idiots who can't handle taking drugs because they don't understand how to be as safe as you possibly can while doing so. I.e. - buy a friggen CAMELBAK AND DRINK FREQUENTLY FROM IT. It is VERY DIFFICULT to over hydrate (delusional hyponatremia) and if you are just sipping from your pack throughout the day you will be fine. My friends and I usually carry one or two and fill them up 3 times throughout the day which was good enough for 6 people to stay perfectly hydrated. I went to six flags the other day (not on any drugs) and took my Camelbak, and I drank from it all day, as not to get dehydrated. Dehydration WILL KILL YOU whether you are on Molly or not. Before Ultra, each morning, I drank 2 liters of water mixed with Pedialyte for the electrolytes, then hydrated throughout the day. I had a beer or two to take the edge off, and I was fine. Went to sleep as soon as I got back to our hotel each evening , and woke up refreshed and ready to go. It isn't rocket science. Take care of your body and it will take care of you. It is incredibly difficult to die from Molly, even when you get Serotonin Syndrome, which is rarely fatal - per wiki: Upon the discontinuation of serotonergic drugs, most cases of serotonin syndrome resolve within 24 hours,[1][3][52][53] although in some cases delirium may persist for a number of days.[22] Symptoms typically persist for a longer time frame in patients taking drugs which have a long elimination half-life, active metabolites, or a protracted duration of action.[1] Cases have reported muscle pain and weakness persisting for months,[54] and antidepressant discontinuation may contribute to ongoing features.[55] Following appropriate medical management, serotonin syndrome is generally associated with a favorable prognosis.[56] (but coupled with dehydration can be fatal) . Unless these two people were on MAOI's I just don't understand what excuse there could be for them dying, well I suppose unless the molly was cut with arsenic (that is a joke)... Can we, as adults, please just admit that there are stupid people out there who make bad choices and end up dead? Then can we agree NOT to make decisions based off irrational emotions and instead based in science and statistics? I really hate how people here look down on drugs as something "other people" and "losers" use. Just because YOU don't enjoy taking drugs doesn't mean other people don't, and it doesn't mean that the people that do are bad people or incapable of enjoying the music drug free. The holier than thou attitude needs to stop because you decided to make a different life choice than someone else. Not everyone who does drugs is a sketchball who steals things to pawn so they can support their habit. Molly is not chemically addictive, not especially dangerous - less so than alcohol. Lets not rush to conclusions and start getting judgy and preachy. FYI Kaskade is a Mormon, of course he doesn't believe in taking drugs.
Hayden Raugh 02.09.2013	Drugs have always been part of dance music... The fact that it has slowly become more 'mainstream' is one of the only reasons people are surprised... Look at all of us educated djs who are saying the same thing, we know it is a problem and we choose to not let this affect our love for the music. The people who have only started listening to it over the last few years would be none the wiser about this problem. Educate the masses...
Isela Retano 02.09.2013	Originally Posted by dirty moose I know it still there. But as long as it still around and not legal, it will make it harder and harder to have good music festivals. Thats the sad thing, this will keep happening and it will be harder and harder not only to have good music festivals but also keep them here and gain new ones, people dont understand how much damage theyre doing for the future, now there is going to be legislators that will fight so hard to keep "EDM Festivals" out of NY, but you cant stop people from doing what they want to do until they cant do it anymore. NY is 2/3 for closing big festivals down in the past year because of deaths...
Rita Debar 02.09.2013	I know it still there. But as long as it still around and not legal, it will make it harder and harder to have good music festivals.
Isela Retano 02.09.2013	Originally Posted by padi_04 Prove us wrong. Keep this thread civilized and PG friendly. As soon as it switches to the wrong lane it gets the lock and infractions will be sent to the offending users. PS: Fixed the thread title. Thank you, my mistake will never be annoying me again! ahah and i will definitely keep it good for the public. Lets keep this thread alive and well
Nedra Fresneda 02.09.2013	Prove us wrong. Keep this thread civilized and PG friendly. As soon as it switches to the wrong lane it gets the lock and infractions will be sent to the offending users. PS: Fixed the thread title.
Isela Retano 02.09.2013	Originally Posted by LanceBlaise eh... I have been in plenty of clubs where people are bumping k and many other drugs right on the dancefloor. It may not be right in your face like you believe it use to be, but its still there... Yeah the drugs are as bad as they were if people want to take drugs in the club they'll take drugs in the club, bouncer won't find anything if they conceal it right and most of them get through, I remember at pacha there was this guy who had bags and bags of "smarties" PG rating, and there was a UC that was searching him and the security guards were all surrounding him and as me and my friends were leaving about 5-6 NYPD officers came rushing in.. It's unfortunate and stupid but it happens.
Efrain Scharr 02.09.2013	Originally Posted by dirty moose Look at NYC 15-20 years ago. The clubs were a drug supermarket. Enough people died and the mayor got involved. Fast forward to today and there's nothing like there used to be around NY anymore. That a conversation for another day. eh... I have been in plenty of clubs where people are bumping k and many other drugs right on the dancefloor. It may not be right in your face like you believe it use to be, but its still there...
Isela Retano 02.09.2013	Originally Posted by dirty moose It's pretty simple if you ask me. I don't know anything about drugs, never done em, don't wanna try em. I know that they aren't allowed at the festivals or in the clubs. Thy are illegal. End of story. Don't tell me they go hand and hand with the scene because that just makes the scene sound horrible and will make it harder and harder to have shows. Look at NYC 15-20 years ago. The clubs were a drug supermarket. Enough people died and the mayor got involved. Fast forward to today and there's nothing like there used to be around NY anymore. That a conversation for another day. RIP to the party goers, I hope people learn from their mistakes. I agree, they believe this will give a hint to the other festival goers to not Do drugs, it won't but when you do drugs you know the risk.
Rita Debar 02.09.2013	It's pretty simple if you ask me. I don't know anything about drugs, never done em, don't wanna try em. I know that they aren't allowed at the festivals or in the clubs. Thy are illegal. End of story. Don't tell me they go hand and hand with the scene because that just makes the scene sound horrible and will make it harder and harder to have shows. Look at NYC 15-20 years ago. The clubs were a drug supermarket. Enough people died and the mayor got involved. Fast forward to today and there's nothing like there used to be around NY anymore. That a conversation for another day. RIP to the party goers, I hope people learn from their mistakes.
Isela Retano 02.09.2013	Originally Posted by AllDay You make no sense dude? Mdma in a pure form is fine. With it being illegal it gets made by some random dude in a bathtub to begin with then gets cut many times before you even get it. you see my point yet? It makes alot of sense dude, and I gotcha now.
Tera Baragan 02.09.2013	Originally Posted by KarbonNY Things that can kill you like what? Drugs? Drugs are cut with other drugs... Drugs don't kill the person, the person kills themselves by taking the drug You make no sense dude? Mdma in a pure form is fine. With it being illegal it gets made by some random dude in a bathtub to begin with then gets cut many times before you even get it. you see my point yet?
Isela Retano 01.09.2013	Just how far is too far? That's what everyone is going to be concerned about.. In Ny we have had some bad incidences with news and EDM festivals, anyone remember the Haunted Coliseum about a year ago when it was shut down early because people died, well now it's Ezoo and it will just make it harder and harder for a show to get played in Ny because there will be people 100000% against it.
Isela Retano 01.09.2013	Originally Posted by jdownesbaird Agreed. Even this community has a strict "no drug talk" policy for some reason, even if the discussion is mature and productive. The moderators even close threads that discuss the need for discussing drugs (this thread is probably getting shut down soon). There has to be a responsible and PG way to talk about this taboo subject, even if it takes a little extra moderation. Yes this is true but it's like covering the truth, it is what it is, we can't sugar coat what happened, "kids had too much sugar and they crashed" doesn't sound right. It is a PG community but the sad part is that real life is not PG.
Isela Retano 01.09.2013	Originally Posted by AllDay Except people arent dieing from pure drugs lmao, they are dieing when its cut with things that can kill you. Things that can kill you like what? Drugs? Drugs are cut with other drugs... Drugs don't kill the person, the person kills themselves by taking the drug
Delena Katherman 01.09.2013	Originally Posted by sobi It's the sketchy uncle that no one wants to talk to, see, or admit exists, but he is still there. Ignoring won't help. I'm not saying accepting it is the way to go, but it needs to be addressed. Not ignored. Agreed. Even this community has a strict "no drug talk" policy for some reason, even if the discussion is mature and productive. The moderators even close threads that discuss the need for discussing drugs (this thread is probably getting shut down soon). There has to be a responsible and PG way to talk about this taboo subject, even if it takes a little extra moderation.
Libbie Orion 01.09.2013	Originally Posted by sobi I understand and agree with the sentiment, but you are ignoring an inconvenient truth. Drugs are part of this culture as much as violence is in the current rap culture, and it always has been. Disagree? Please explain classic songs like Everything Starts With An E, or Energy Flash, where "ecstasy" is just repeated over and over. MDMA is just as much a part of the culture as music is. It's the sketchy uncle that no one wants to talk to, see, or admit exists, but he is still there. Ignoring won't help. I'm not saying accepting it is the way to go, but it needs to be addressed. Not ignored. Just acting like it's not part of the music doesn't help people make the right choices or educate them to what can be poor ones either. And for what it's worth on the subject of BOO, look into who produced it, and who is doing some of the larger events in NY now. of course SOBI we are on the same page. i am certainly not new to seeing what happens and how these two things tie into eachother. However, there is no magic switch on anyones back that you can flip to make them do what you want. its the person themselves that choose to do things, drugs, drink, steal, or even to do things out of favor and generosity. what i dont agree to is how media keep ties the two things together. drugs are drugs music is music what? no one talks about the substance abuse that Mozart inflicted on himself because its called Classical music? he was an avid drinker how about Hector Berlioz who was am opium addict? no lets not put that into our current news broadcasts or into the new york times when remembering music and its culture, instead lets talk about how kids today (and only today) all use MDMA if they listen to electronic music lets make all the parents believe that if they send their child off to a rap concert, they will bump into at least 16 people who have a gun while their little sisters get gang banged willingly in the parking lot before the concert and a mosh pit only exists at a ROCK concert where the worst thing to happen is Cocaine and Weed. Sorry Sobi, im on a rant. This is the exact reason my wife doesnt understand why i dont like to sit down and watch the news while she loves it. I keep reading between the lines / lies/ yellow journalism just grinds my gears
Tera Baragan 01.09.2013	Originally Posted by KarbonNY Yeah but that's like alcohol, it's been legal for mad long and we know alot about it but yet people still getting alcohol poisoning a die no matter if its legal or not people will die of it, they could make alot of money off of it by making it legal but that's a long stretch. Except people arent dieing from pure drugs lmao, they are dieing when its cut with things that can kill you.
Lannie Kutay 01.09.2013	soulwax : e-talking most of the artists are high too.
Isela Retano 01.09.2013	Originally Posted by AllDay To me its as simple as making the drugs legal so people can become educated about them and so the drugs will be pure and not cut with everything under the sink... Yeah but that's like alcohol, it's been legal for mad long and we know alot about it but yet people still getting alcohol poisoning a die no matter if its legal or not people will die of it, they could make alot of money off of it by making it legal but that's a long stretch.
Darren Teboe 01.09.2013	Originally Posted by antifmradio What does Extacy and getting high have to do with electronic music festivals? nothing its what people will do anywhere else too so if you are going to get high at these events believeing youll have a better time stop being selfish and stay the -F- home so you dont ruin it for everyone else I understand and agree with the sentiment, but you are ignoring an inconvenient truth. Drugs are part of this culture as much as violence is in the current rap culture, and it always has been. Disagree? Please explain classic songs like Everything Starts With An E, or Energy Flash, where "ecstasy" is just repeated over and over. MDMA is just as much a part of the culture as music is. It's the sketchy uncle that no one wants to talk to, see, or admit exists, but he is still there. Ignoring won't help. I'm not saying accepting it is the way to go, but it needs to be addressed. Not ignored. Just acting like it's not part of the music doesn't help people make the right choices or educate them to what can be poor ones either. And for what it's worth on the subject of BOO, look into who produced it, and who is doing some of the larger events in NY now.
Margie Pavell 01.09.2013	what happened to dancesafe? get your shit tested for free at the party...
Tera Baragan 01.09.2013	To me its as simple as making the drugs legal so people can become educated about them and so the drugs will be pure and not cut with everything under the sink...
Isela Retano 01.09.2013	Yes I meant EZF I don't know why I typed EDC maybe I'm still living in the past or something, but check this out its so true
Charline Dye 01.09.2013	http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/38529...usaolp00000008 Here's a decently thought out editorial on the subject. Found it interesting that Bonaroo has had 10 deaths over the years. Unfortunately, deaths at large gatherings of young people has happened way before EDM and will happen in the future.
Libbie Orion 01.09.2013	you mean EZF not EDC Electric Zoo Festival EDC is Electric Daisy couple people died. MDMA was found on scene Kaskade had a really good point he made about it in a reply actually i made the same one just before my wife found his on facebook What does Extacy and getting high have to do with electronic music festivals? nothing its what people will do anywhere else too so if you are going to get high at these events believeing youll have a better time stop being selfish and stay the -F- home so you dont ruin it for everyone else now that two dates are cancelled and no one will be paid back for them the organizers are gonig to pay some serious fines, as well as STILL have to pay the artists - vendors - staffing involved even though the dates dont take place. What do you believe this is going to do for their budget for next years EZF ? 3 years of this RUIN and shut down the Boo Festivals. not because of drugs but because of bad weather. 3 years in a row, then the entire organization lost its money to the point of not being able to maintain itself. So they shut down.

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