EZF NY Cancelled

That's what I was trying to say I was ranting and didn't voice myself properly, and it's becoming such a thing to do juice heads are going there shirtless with their "bros" and going to just get "rowdy" and fight, if there were people there for music you would know.. You would know.. Ultra on the other hand is for
Legit music lovers because
No one is going to invest that much money to get with girls or get into fights or show off like they could and would at Ezoo and edc ny

So was Woodstock and I'm pretty sure most people there were on some type of drug. Like I've been trying to say - this isn't a new phenomenon. Everyone I met at ultra was really into the music. I believe you're really judging from afar without talking to the actual people there.

I will say that EDC NY was filled with a bunch of juice heads and the vibe was not nearly the same as ULTRA (which also why I decided not to go to ezoo, actually). Maybe you're just going to the wrong festivals. I dunno.

This reminds me of when the rave died last time which was about a decade ago. Scene explodes, surburbanites start coming out, corporations sponsor "raves," a few kids die, people overreact and something else becomes cooler.

I started going to party's in 97. Drugs were as much a part of the culture as the music then and still are. Actually, drugs probably play a bigger role than the music. I don't like it, but it's the reality.

Greed is to blame when it comes down to it. Why do they need to put on a 3 day event? $$$. They get these kids to spend 3 times as much money to get 3 times more tore up. Everyone knows that pushing the limits is dangerous.

Yeah I feel like
Everyone that's going to shows today are only going bc their friends are going and they're gonna ("ROLL" down a hill) PG Rating.. Kids believe its cool and hell if I were spending 300+$ on anything I would make sure I like the actual events' backing because it is not a drug festival it is a music festival.

Can we, as adults, please just admit that there are stupid people out there who make bad choices and end up dead? Then can we agree NOT to make decisions based off irrational emotions and instead based in science and statistics? I really hate how people here look down on drugs as something "other people" and "losers" use. Just because YOU don't enjoy taking drugs doesn't mean other people don't, and it doesn't mean that the people that do are bad people or incapable of enjoying the music drug free. The holier than thou attitude needs to stop because you decided to make a different life choice than someone else. Not everyone who does drugs is a sketchball who steals things to pawn so they can support their habit. Molly is not chemically addictive, not especially dangerous - less so than alcohol. Lets not rush to conclusions and start getting judgy and preachy. FYI Kaskade is a Mormon, of course he doesn't believe in taking drugs.

A typical dose is .2 grams so I'm guessing 1.2 of very pure and highly serotogenic MDMA.

Anyone saying legalizing rave drugs wont help, look at Amsterdam, or any other country that legalized everything. Knowledge on the drugs are everywhere, the drugs are pure and deaths slow down because your actually doing the drug you wanted to do not METH.

I like what you said, and I don't like what it's becoming. Plain and simple.

Yes it has. The drug of choice was just typically alcohol for what was a smell sect of the "mainstream top 40's" bar going individuals who got into electronic music. Now a lot of the high risk/low knowledge individuals from that party scene have moved over to the EDM scene and the scary word "drugs" is out in the open.

The fact of the matter is that it's not that somehow drugs have become more a part of the culture, simply that the culture of EDM, which involves drug use much of the time, has become much more mainstream. Ergo, drug use has become more mainstream. Rave culture is now in the public eye because poor little Timmy and Tammy from their white, upper middle class, suburban neighborhoods are turning into Kandi Kids and can't handle themselves properly. Their parents are up in arms and naturally anytime ANYONE dies (unless you're a black or Hispanic male in his late teens/early twenties in the ghetto - sorry non sequitur) the entire populous gets involved to eradicate the non existent epidemic. Sorry but it's going to take more than one pretty white girl dying to convince me there is a real problem. Once it starts to affect the bourgeois it goes from an outlying concern to an immediate issue that needs to be addressed no matter if the issue actually exists or not. (I am neither poor nor a minority, this is just how I see it).

Yes - as more people do something that has a remote chance of killing you - the absolute number of deaths will naturally increase at the rate at which the population of users increases. That's just basic math. Doesn't mean the underlying chance from use, of death, has increased and it doesn't meant people who did drugs as a ratio of those who don't have changed. It's simply the amount of people. Recency bias is a bitch and a half. No one ever talks about the kid who didnt die because he didnt do drugs and sat in a lawn chair all day sipping water and casually listening to music at the festival or rave.

Drugs have been used since man first discovered chewing on a cocoa leaf made him feel alert and able to complete tasks he couldn't before. Stop being so ignorant and stop talking like an old man. The "new era" talk is bullshit. Drugs as a means of defining and creating a culture have existed forever. Native Americans smoke peyote. It's not some new voodoo. It's an age old social practice that allows individuals to believe and feel differently, form social bonds, and find answers that previously eluded them.

I'm not naive. Not everyone's experience is so pure and unadulterated. Highly addictive substances like crystal methamphetamine, cocaine, heroin and nicotine create almost unbreakable attachments and dependencies in its users. I know because I've struggled with nicotine use and cessation for years. Sure it doesn't "mess me up" but it's a terrible addiction that I haven't been able to kick even though I want to.

Here's my thing about drug use; if you can use it, manage your life, and handle your responsibilities, than I have no issue. Once you start robbing me to feed your addiction, begging on the street, or going to jail, then something needs to be fixed.

Don't compare apples to oranges, otherwise we'd be having a debate on what's worse to take at the club.. Coffee containing caffeine or Tylenol to help ease the pain. Festivals weren't established around the drugs that fill them, don't give me that crap.

I've been into this scene for about 8 years, never tried that garbage once.. And I never plan on it. This idea nowadays that going to see your favorite DJ/act should automatically include some kind of party favor is crazy. Hell, 99% of the idiots from where I live currently have no idea who they're seeing(they pretend they do), no idea what songs they have out or what they're hearing, let alone what the dude on stage is even doing.... But I surely know what the main concern for them is... Who has the drugs. If your evening has to revolve around doing drugs in order to actually have fun then what the hell are you actually doing? Stay home and be loser there. I understand you can use responsibly, but I just don't understand why it's all of a sudden "necessary" for the new era to use to have fun. I'll never get it. If you're so into the drug itself, then stay home and take it there.

Kid took six hits of molly.

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