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Technics/timecode questions
Posted on: 10.12.2011 by Celina Crusey
I've been DJ'ing with a denon MC6000 and a midi fighter for about 5-6 months now and I still love it. I've improved a lot as a DJ over time and I've already had over 20 gigs on my college campus. I still feel like there is something to be desired as far as an analogue "feel" though. I really want to start looking into getting turntables and using timecode with them. The only problem is I have NO idea what I'm doing when it comes to turntables.

So here are my questions:
What model of technics should I keep my eyes out for? I see most people using 1210 MK2's and 1210 m5x's

What's the difference between these models?

What kind of prices are fair? I've scoured ebay and craigslist a bit and the prices are so different that I don't know what to make of it. The lowest price I saw for a pair of MK2's was $400 on craigslist.

What kind of terminology should I look for in terms of needles/cartridges?

Should i just get a TSP certified mixer and separate timecode vinyl to bypass buying an Traktor audio X soundcard?
Leeanna Ayla
16.12.2011
moved to CDJ and vinyl DJ'ing community
Osvaldo Newhall
16.12.2011
Originally Posted by Hoodless
I know a guy that found a Jap grey M3D.
Japanese version is MK3D and not M3D.
Osvaldo Newhall
16.12.2011
Originally Posted by xyloft
I believe the 1210's also have voltage selction between 110 and 220 (or 208 whatever it is).

I have two 1200's MK2 and one 1210 MK2, I'll check when I get home.

prices have changed drastically. in 2005 I picked up one of my 1200's for 250 shipped on ebay and the other for 280 from guitar center. both used.

the GC near my house has a NEW M5G and they are asking $980 for it. I would cruise ebay and see what people are listing them for to get a feel. over the course of a few weeks you'll be able to tell what the average price is.
Asian market of 1200s have voltage selectors except for Japanese versions.

Originally Posted by Hoodless
Not strictly speaking, there a lot of tweaks between the two but nothing major.
A 1200MK2 & a 1210MK2 are 98% identically the same. The remaining 2% is the color that makes the difference.

Originally Posted by bheinz63
1210 only designates the ability to switch between 115v amd 230v ac. You can get black 1200s and silver 1210s.
As I mentioned above, some 1200s also have voltage selectors.
Dione Haimes
16.12.2011
Originally Posted by bheinz63
1210 only designates the ability to switch between 115v amd 230v ac. You can get black 1200s and silver 1210s.
I know a guy that found a Jap grey M3D.
Yong Aptekar
16.12.2011
Don't dismiss the audio x soundcards, they are really good. I've got a 6, and it is phenomenal, low latency, and it looks cool too
Zena Molitoris
15.12.2011
1210 only designates the ability to switch between 115v amd 230v ac. You can get black 1200s and silver 1210s.
Dione Haimes
15.12.2011
Originally Posted by Nicadraus
The difference between the 1200/1210 is only the color and nothing else.
Not strictly speaking, there a lot of tweaks between the two but nothing major.
Micaela Scherbert
15.12.2011
Originally Posted by Nicadraus
The difference between the 1200/1210 is only the color and nothing else.
I believe the 1210's also have voltage selction between 110 and 220 (or 208 whatever it is).

I have two 1200's MK2 and one 1210 MK2, I'll check when I get home.

prices have changed drastically. in 2005 I picked up one of my 1200's for 250 shipped on ebay and the other for 280 from guitar center. both used.

the GC near my house has a NEW M5G and they are asking $980 for it. I would cruise ebay and see what people are listing them for to get a feel. over the course of a few weeks you'll be able to tell what the average price is.
Osvaldo Newhall
10.12.2011
Originally Posted by KryticalH!T
Is there any improvements that 1210's have over 1200's? Also, what kinda prices should I be looking for? Rather, what would the min and max price I should pay for let's say....a pair of 1200 MK2's in good condition that comes with the stylus?
The difference between the 1200/1210 is only the color and nothing else.
Celina Crusey
09.12.2011
Originally Posted by xyloft
I believe the M5G's have a +/-8 and +/-16. if that's important to you. they also cost a lot more.

The 1200 mk2 is what I have used for 6 years. You'll also want to check to see if it comes with carts. these come in two types:

stylus with a seperate cart and headshell (like Shure M44-G)
or
stylus with an all in one cartridge headshell (like ortophons)
Is there any improvements that 1210's have over 1200's? Also, what kinda prices should I be looking for? Rather, what would the min and max price I should pay for let's say....a pair of 1200 MK2's in good condition that comes with the stylus?
Micaela Scherbert
09.12.2011
I believe the M5G's have a +/-8 and +/-16. if that's important to you. they also cost a lot more.

The 1200 mk2 is what I have used for 6 years. You'll also want to check to see if it comes with carts. these come in two types:

stylus with a seperate cart and headshell (like Shure M44-G)
or
stylus with an all in one cartridge headshell (like ortophons)
Osvaldo Newhall
09.12.2011
For me, it's either SL1200/1210 MK3D/M3D or MK5.

Anyway, here's a little history and comparison of models.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technics_SL-1200

Brunilda Kora
09.12.2011
Your only interested in the first FOUR digits.

1200 or 1210's.

And it doesn't really matter which. Whichever comes along first*/cheapest*.

*Delete as applicable.

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