Novation Nocturn
Novation Nocturn Posted on: 13.05.2008 by cala mar Anyone played around with one of these and Traktor?I'm wanting to add it to my BCD3000 setup and use the 8 knobs/buttons to control Deck A and Deck B effects. I'm 99.9% sure that it will work exactly the way i want it to but sort of a little curious as to what people believe of the unit aswell. I'm also open to suggestions for cheaper alternatives, I only really need 8 additional knobs/buttons (although a few extra won't go astray ) | |
| Xavier Emanuels 13.06.2008 |
Originally Posted by tekki
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| Xavier Emanuels 30.05.2008 |
Originally Posted by eangolde
The LED lights thats are under the buttons should work this way aswell, so i will most likely leave the buttons that are on the unit as is (the wiring that needs doing is under the PCB) so i have LED action aswell. The 8 automapping buttons along the bottom might be a problem though, i am not quite sure if they can be assigned to send out midi messages which would really suck. Ill have more on this soon. |
| Random X 26.05.2008 |
Originally Posted by eangolde
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| 26.05.2008 |
Originally Posted by BentoSan
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| Xavier Emanuels 24.05.2008 |
Originally Posted by tekki
Originally Posted by midian
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| Greg Kutnar 15.06.2008 | so i did a gig with the mpd24. first impressions - it's quite big, worked well but i did a sh!t set, partly because it was last minute and i hadn't prepared or thought about, and partly cause i got so stuck on the mpd i was forgetting the actual mixing and kept leaving the bass off and things. oh well, luckily hardly anyone was there. |
| Xavier Emanuels 13.06.2008 |
Originally Posted by tekki
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| Random X 13.06.2008 | Just 8? Mannnn, if I know you well enough, this will never be near enough. |
| Xavier Emanuels 12.06.2008 | I am believeing i might just do a single row of 8 arcade knobs to control some Clist Beatlookup Juggling among other things, that will still make it pretty fun to play with |
| Greg Kutnar 11.06.2008 | i added an Akai MPD24. i like it a lot, using it for fx and loop triggers |
| Greg Kutnar 03.06.2008 | i believe i'll use both - not quite enough knobs and buttons on the xsession for everything |
| Xavier Emanuels 30.05.2008 | I have been in contact with Novation about the Nocturn and there is no way to get midi messages out of the bottom 8 buttons or the automap knob Though some of my ideas\feedback has been passed on to the Novation development team for future devices - hopefully they do something about it in a later version but i highly doubt it. Also i took the time to dig up some information on the microprocessor used on the Nocturn for anyone who's into firmware hacking. Chip information - "Low speed USB 8-bit MCU family with up to 32K Flash/ROM, DFU capability, 8-bit ADC, WDG, timer, SCI and I2C" Micro Processor Order Number : ST72F63BK2M1 Generic Part Number : ST7263BK2 Manufacturer : ST www.st.com Product Page - http://www.st.com/mcu/modules.php?na...&DEV=ST7263BK2 Product Data Sheet - http://www.st.com/stonline/products/.../st7263bk2.pdf There is also a 2x 5 pin connection on the PCB of the Nocturn for reprogramming the chip. |
| Random X 30.05.2008 | X Session Pro next to a BCD3000? |
| cala mar 30.05.2008 | well I already ordered it earlier this week they called me up to tell me they had to wait another day for stock to arrive and that i would get it early next week - I asked if they had the nocturn in stock and they did (same price) but then i decided on the spot to wait for the x-session. The BCD3000 won't be lonely for much longer! |
| Random X 30.05.2008 | Go for it Wuz! It seems to be a nice contender! |
| cala mar 30.05.2008 | I'm really starting to feel confident about ordering an x-session pro instead of the nocturn. But good luck with the mods! |
| Random X 30.05.2008 | Heck, I might even mod my soon to arrive BCR2000, if I am fed up with that casing/housing. |
| Xavier Emanuels 29.05.2008 | Tekki came up with the cool idea of putting it in a clear acrylic shell, i believe i might take that option if i can get all of the buttons to spit out midi messages. |
| warr point 29.05.2008 | 1st post on here, though I've been observing the great topics for a while now, anyway... I received the Novation Nocturn this morning so I thought I would share a little info on it from a consumers perspective. The unit its self is plastic'y light (more so than the x-session pro) and slim so I doubt much modding will be going on and I don't know how much gig bashing it could take but it seems that it was more built for a home studio/production environment rather than a DJing one. The controls are well spaced enough and feel nice and smooth. As it stands, the Automap software that came with the unit is buggy to say the least. It doesn't seem to have generic midi drivers like my Akai Mpd24 because assigning functions using lets say Torq's Learn Midi feature just don't work and every plug-in (VST only despite what the promo claims,well on PC anyway) has to be wrapped and saved using the automap software. When I did finally get it to map to a VST and control a few parameters using the unit it some how knocked of my other midi controllers, it did this under Torq and ProTools. It might just be me not understanding their instructions which they claim are super easy but they have alot of fixes to do yet. Its a shame so far because I see so much potential in this unit. If anyone has had better luck with the Nocturn, please let me know Here are some images I uploaded to let people get an idea of the size http://www.flickr.com/photos/doyli/2534189973/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/doyli/2...n/photostream/ |
| Xavier Emanuels 30.05.2008 |
Originally Posted by eangolde
The LED lights thats are under the buttons should work this way aswell, so i will most likely leave the buttons that are on the unit as is (the wiring that needs doing is under the PCB) so i have LED action aswell. The 8 automapping buttons along the bottom might be a problem though, i am not quite sure if they can be assigned to send out midi messages which would really suck. Ill have more on this soon. |
| Random X 26.05.2008 |
Originally Posted by eangolde
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| 26.05.2008 |
Originally Posted by BentoSan
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| Random X 24.05.2008 | Can't wait for the review dude. (Can't wait to buy my BCR2000 either. ) |
| Xavier Emanuels 24.05.2008 |
Originally Posted by tekki
Originally Posted by midian
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| Ryan Morales 24.05.2008 | awesome, good luck with that :] I plan on getting the X-Session pro and combining it with one of Midifidlers MidiFighters ;D And using Ammobox ;D |
| Random X 24.05.2008 | LoLz... Good luck with that one. When will the nocturn arrive mate? |
| Xavier Emanuels 24.05.2008 | I just finished ordering a Novation Nocturn and 25 arcade buttons (1 for a backup). This should be interesting ill post follow up photos when i am done modding |
| Xavier Emanuels 21.05.2008 | Oh well 24 arcade buttons will be heaps |
| Random X 21.05.2008 | The Evolution is an X Session, the M-Audio is an X Session Pro. |
| Xavier Emanuels 20.05.2008 | There is the Evolution X-session which i was mistakingly referring to is this one http://www.zzounds.com/item--EVOXSESSION - but all those buttons i do not believe are assignable - sorry for the confusion The M-Audio Xsession - http://www.djranking s.com/community /att...0&d=1211283790 So it looks like i am going back to plan A and modding the Novation Nocturn. |
| cala mar 20.05.2008 | I'm using a BCD3000 with traktor 3.3 default profile, only change being the pitch faders control fine pitch 2.5% I'm believeing of adding the xsession to my BCD3000 setup and mapping everything as labelled in the attached image. The only other thing i was believeing of doing was setting the pitch faders on the xsession to coarse pitch control and making the range +/- 100%. Havn't really thought of a use for the cross fader or EQ yet. Everything else seems like it will be a fun useful mapping. In case its not clear: Deck A/B volume will control Deck A/B effect amount. The monitor buttons will toggle effects A/B on/off and the buttons at the bottom of the unit will scroll through the effects and also give control for the additional functions where applicable in some effects (flange tap, T92 quantisize etc) This is looking much more appealing than the nocturn... EDIT: oh look the novation nocturn thread is turning into an XSession Pro thread |
| Random X 20.05.2008 |
Originally Posted by BentoSan
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| Xavier Emanuels 20.05.2008 | The Xsession does not look too bad actually, but how many of those buttons are assignable ? I might pick up the Xsession instead and mod the buttons/case if enough of the buttons are midi assignable. |
| Dj Gjaka 20.05.2008 |
Originally Posted by BentoSan
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| Random X 20.05.2008 | I'll wait what impact a BCR2000 will have, than I will decide to either go for a "x session pro" or a "Novation Nocturn". Both are sweet as hell! |
| cala mar 19.05.2008 | I've decided to go the xsession as i have formulated a use for more controls than the nocturn offers (aside from switching midi pages but i don't want to have to do that. |
| Ryan Morales 19.05.2008 | im converted, nocturn looks nicer n has some features I like, and LEDs, but the additional controls (like 4 faders!) give the xsession the win imo. that plus a midi-fighter ftw! |
| Xavier Emanuels 20.05.2008 | I want one of these so i can mod it with arcade buttons ill mod my VCI-100 with arcade buttons at the same time giving 12 arcade buttons per side which would translate well into 4 deck x 6 cue point juggling madness. Changing the case it comes in will probably be in order so i can get the other arcade buttons as close as possible to the vci-100 arcade buttons. Can't wait to get my hands on one |
| Random X 19.05.2008 | In Holland it is also the same price. What does help: Nocturn is more LED lit. |
| cala mar 18.05.2008 | hmmm good suggestion... I can get the x-session pro for about the same price here in AU. |
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