Stanton SCS.D3 "DaSkratch"

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Stanton SCS.D3 "DaSkratch"
Posted on: 11.09.2008 by Santi Taos
for those of you who are interested...thanks skratchworx.

http://www.skratchworx.com/news3/comments.php?id=1035
Hannes Deburchgraeve
19.09.2008
Originally Posted by Fatlimey
Remember, it lets you "control and manipulate music, on a Mac or a PC, like a DJ".
Where's that quote from? Must have missed it. That's seriously funny and offensive.
Random X
19.09.2008		Hey guys, let's keep it in check.

No flaming and such. Thanks!
robert chanda
20.09.2008		Remember, it lets you "control and manipulate music, on a Mac or a PC, like a DJ".

Sure, because I've always wanted to be "like a DJ".

Fire the copy writers - even during the launch of their keynote digital DJ device, they just couldn't bring themselves to say that digital DJs are "real DJs". It's moments like this when you realise just how far digital DJing has to go to become accepted.
robert chanda
20.09.2008		http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad6yaDxE1Lg

So it *is* multi-touch - as demoed with the three EQ channels.

Very much a modal interface - switch to EQ mode to access the EQ "knobs", then to FX mode to control the four FX knobs. The good thing is that using the top-left volume slider, it gives you access to all four of the FX controls, something our current VCI-100 mappings don't. It'll still need some Bome's programming to get it to trigger the "hold" when the FX Amount hits to the top of the range but that should be simple enough to do - your only remaining problem is how to feel that you've hit the top of the range. A knob has a hard stop there that you can feel. A slider gives you very little feedback.

The Loop mode gives you for controls - a big pad in the middle that does loop drop and four areas that set loop lengths. They really need to map a "sync" to the loop release so that releasing from a 1-beat loop gets the song back into time.

Deck Select mode allows control of two turntables. Why not four? You have the four outside buttons. How many keypresses does it take to load up another track, kill the bass on the other and crossfade between them? Wow. Switch mode, ftuz with values, switch mode, futz, switch mode, futz, etc.

So, as an entry level device it's about as capable as a well setup X-Session Pro. If you could replace those touch buttons with actual buttons it'd be a great device.

Oh, and the cardboard "Hi, I'm Richard Divine... now let's take it to the next level" is a sample that I'm going to be stealing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PUVHgKnrts

Props to Bome's for getting their logo on the DaRouter software.
Hannes Deburchgraeve
20.09.2008
Originally Posted by nem0nic
Your assumptions are pretty much all totally wrong. Good attempt at a rant, though.
I believe it qualifies as a rant. Really? Only an attempt? I must need to step up my rant skills.

Anyhow, from the site: "The tactile buttons, triggers, and virtual faders can also control
samples, pitch, effects, cue and loop points, and other mappable functions. Multiple finger touches can even prompt quick kills on EQ's or transform effects on volume.

This is what I mean. Assigning multiple functions to a single button means that you either have to use two hands to perform a single operation (in order to be safe and make sure it's doing what you expect). Or you have to put the unit into a mode to activate different function layers. That's always going to mean that there's combination of operations that can't be performed a the same time. If the unit doesn't have a good way to indicate which operations are active, then it's also dangerous because you can believe you're throwing on an effect but instead stop your live track or whatever else that's going to seriously fuck up your mix.

Nothing here indicates they've put much consideration into those points: http://www.gearjunkies.com/news_info.php?news_id=3136
darren Morriss
19.09.2008		http://www.gearjunkies.com/news_info.php?news_id=3136
Nick Ross
18.09.2008
Originally Posted by nem0nic
Your assumptions are pretty much all totally wrong. Good attempt at a rant, though.
lol...you crack me up sometimes
Diogo Dj Dragão
17.09.2008
Originally Posted by mycole
If they want $100 for it, I might buy it. But you can tell from the picture that you'd need a couple of them to mix and you'd probably another unit to control you effects. I mean super knobs and layered controls are great, but I like to use that to do cool stuff not just to keep up with the basics. Why don't these companies try and make more liberal use of knobs and buttons? Don't they realize that their job is to make the cool software more tactile? And for f-Sake... I don't want to scratch!
Your assumptions are pretty much all totally wrong. Good attempt at a rant, though.
robert chanda
18.09.2008
Originally Posted by Chilly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FvDGZKLJ2s

new video with Traktor
Interesting. Guy seems to be using one control at a time, serially controlling the software, where every MIDI device out there with knobs allow for two handed use as a fundamental basic. An interface that forces you to switch "modes" will end up annoying quite fast (and that includes you, VCI-100 with your different FX modes - although you do allow more than one active at a time which helps soften the problem).

I wonder just how interactive this surface is - is it multi touch? Is the demo just a noob learning his way around?
Hannes Deburchgraeve
17.09.2008
Originally Posted by Chilly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FvDGZKLJ2s

new video with Traktor
If they want $100 for it, I might buy it. But you can tell from the picture that you'd need a couple of them to mix and you'd probably another unit to control you effects. I mean super knobs and layered controls are great, but I like to use that to do cool stuff not just to keep up with the basics. Why don't these companies try and make more liberal use of knobs and buttons? Don't they realize that their job is to make the cool software more tactile? And for f-Sake... I don't want to scratch!
Nick Ross
17.09.2008		http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FvDGZKLJ2s

new video with Traktor
Hannes Deburchgraeve
16.09.2008
Originally Posted by eangolde
well, it certainly looks intriguing but common:
a midi controller next to your turntable- thats not exactly revolutionary.
Agreed. I believe a lot of hardware companies are playing catchup.
Xavier Emanuels
16.09.2008		The device over all isn't that crash hot - the maker or breaker will be the gestures that the pad supports for doing actions, so its really hard to come to any sort of conclusion to usefulness of this device.
Santi Taos
12.09.2008		looks the same to me....
Anushka jayamaha
12.09.2008		Looks like a top view of The Starship Enterprise
robert chanda
12.09.2008		The Stanton SCS.D3 "DaSkratch" entry level controller, because all DJs do is scratch records. Sure. Officially now BORED with all these controllers going on and on about how "dope" and "skratch-y" they are while reinventing old ways of playing vinyl.

Can we please move the fuck on now?

In it's favor it does look spill proof. Good for DJs with shaky beer hands.

gilbert hatem
12.09.2008		So that controller that I posted is not the one we are looking at? I believe that I am in community limbo sometimes.
Diogo Dj Dragão
12.09.2008		Not a non disclosure. I don't need those anymore because now if I leak something they'll just fire me.
Random X
12.09.2008
Originally Posted by nem0nic
He does indeed.
Damn you Non Disclosure Agreements!

Originally Posted by darrel855
Something about stanton gear other than needles just seems like a waste of time and money . Could have been their rep @ Remix hotel during the WMC 2 years ago he just seemed like a sleazy salesman who had no working knowledge of their product .
Oh oh oh oh oh!

Damn son, how can you forget the T.120C, the SCS.1d and SCS.1m? :eek:
gilbert hatem
12.09.2008		Since I can't see the video, is this the controller?
Anushka jayamaha
13.09.2008		Something about stanton gear other than needles just seems like a waste of time and money . Could have been their rep @ Remix hotel during the WMC 2 years ago he just seemed like a sleazy salesman who had no working knowledge of their product .
Diogo Dj Dragão
12.09.2008
Maybe nem0nic knows about this one?
He does indeed.
gilbert hatem
12.09.2008		lol, work doesn't allow me to view youtube videos. I guess that why I could see it. I'll have to watch at home.
Random X
12.09.2008		Looks like a thinner version of the SCS.1m.

Maybe nem0nic knows about this one?

12.09.2008		well, it certainly looks intriguing but common:
a midi controller next to your turntable- thats not exactly revolutionary.

let me see what I can dig up.
Dj Daxsen
11.09.2008		yeh it worked for me
gilbert hatem
11.09.2008		I cant watch the video, it's not working, can anyone else see it?
Dj Daxsen
11.09.2008		looks cool, not a lot known about it

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