Vestax TR-1
Vestax TR-1 Posted on: 19.05.2009 by Daniel McCoy Hi,what do you guys believe of the new Vestax TR-1 that seems to be the perfect match for Traktor Pro?! I'm not too happy with my VCI-100SE as I feel the handling is way too complicated with Traktor Pro (kudos to Ean though for putting up a splendid .tks). http://www.vestax-dj.de/products/end...hno=1&art=1710 It's a link to Vestax's German website but you probably get the picture. Availibility "August 2009", no pricing yet. | |
| Van Nantz 02.05.2010 |
Originally Posted by chrismp
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| Van Nantz 02.05.2010 |
Originally Posted by cagey
Can you please explain in detail how is easy is to prepare the cue points and loops with the FWD/BACK buttons? Are they at constant seeking speed? I always use the jogs or the mouse directly. How a about using a knob? Any comment will be appreciated. BTW: do u recommend this over the vci-100? |
| Talitha Duchsherer 12.12.2009 |
Originally Posted by Kainos
I believe I may have a spare one of these in a couple of days, if anyone is interested? I cancelled an order with a supplier but I believe they have sent it anyway. I can either send it back or happy to sell it to somebody for no extra cost if they want....let me know. |
| Yon Gigler 27.11.2009 |
Originally Posted by MiL0
Its a fantastic controller in my opinion. |
| Lacey Westergreen 03.05.2010 | for me it works well...used it at two smaller parties (up to 200 people, i play electro) but i don't spin at any big clubs. i'd suggest you do it like i did and just order it and return it if you don't like it (i got a good deal on it from a local store, so it was even cheaper than the tr-1). |
| Van Nantz 02.05.2010 |
Originally Posted by chrismp
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| Lacey Westergreen 02.05.2010 | if used with tightly beatgridded tracks, it's really easy to set up cue points with beat jumps. other than that i guess it gets a little more tricky since it doesn't have any endless encoders that would work for scrubbing through songs (i only had it set up for beat jumps...never used buttons in traktor to scrub so i can't tell about the speed, sry). i had one to tinker with for a couple of days and loved it! (still went for the scs3 system for the awesome stuff you can pull of with all your fingers at once) build quality and feel is definitely better than the vci imho. the buttons don't have that kinda hard click and the knobs are much nicer. thing's built like a tank! |
| Van Nantz 02.05.2010 |
Originally Posted by cagey
Can you please explain in detail how is easy is to prepare the cue points and loops with the FWD/BACK buttons? Are they at constant seeking speed? I always use the jogs or the mouse directly. How a about using a knob? Any comment will be appreciated. BTW: do u recommend this over the vci-100? |
| Florence Gaugler 19.01.2010 | i got to mention that the 4deck setup with hercules rmx & traktor 4decks is pretty allright if you get the hang of it! k'm waiting on te tr-1 as well but it sux it's got no wheels and soundcard.... it is supposed to be in store here in amsterdam in feb '10 |
| Talitha Duchsherer 12.12.2009 |
Originally Posted by Kainos
I believe I may have a spare one of these in a couple of days, if anyone is interested? I cancelled an order with a supplier but I believe they have sent it anyway. I can either send it back or happy to sell it to somebody for no extra cost if they want....let me know. |
| Lolita Breaker 10.12.2009 | Having had a VCI-100SE as my first controller my only comment would be that if your tracks aren't beatgridded first (I haven't done all of mine yet) it'll be less intuitive to pitch bend (with +/- buttons as opposed to jog wheels) them back in sync manually if you're used to turntables or CDJ's I was interested in the TR1 originally but for me too the lack of jog wheels was what put me off |
| Heike Decroix 10.12.2009 | Where did you order it from? Like yourself, this will be my first midi controller. I have one on order now from pssl, but I am still weighing the pro's and con's of the TR-1 to the VCI-100SE. I can live without the crossfader, but I am afraid I might miss the jog wheels to navigate. Any other regrets besides those you mentioned after you have played with it for awhile? |
| Talitha Duchsherer 10.12.2009 | OK, so I ordered one of these in September and I finally received it today after some sneaked into the country. This is my very first midi controller, so I don't have anything to compare it with but after an hour or so I like it already. The knobs and sliders are a dream and very accurate. The easy and visible switch between decks A>C & B>D makes it really easy to see which deck you're on but if, like me, you regularly 3 & 4 decks, then it's still going to be a challenge to keep on top of whats going at any one time. No drinking on the job I reckon! My only immediate issue I have noticed is that I can't figure out how to activate the filter - the filter knob changes the parameter as I can see the knob moving on the screen, but it isn't activated and I can't see a button to do this. Also, a similar kind of issue, I don't know how to activate the bass/mid/treble cut. Lastly, you can create loops on-the-fly, but I don't know how to 'Activate' the loops I already have set up. In other words, I don't want to set a loop straight away, but I want the pre-programmed loops to kick in when they are reached in the track. I guess I'm either missing something or I'm asking daft questions, but I have absolutely no idea how to program these things as I have had no experience with midi programming. If anyone has one of these and can help me out it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! |
| Yon Gigler 27.11.2009 |
Originally Posted by MiL0
Its a fantastic controller in my opinion. |
| Arcelia Siebeneck 27.11.2009 | anyone got one of these? haven't seen any reviews on here yet... |
| Sheba Pachman 02.11.2009 | proaudiostar has em listed and ready to ship for $525 |
| Mathew Meins 09.10.2009 | I don't believe Ean would be against Vestax making a controller people really want to buy, just because he does something to provide that product for us now. And this site is far too important to die because of something as trivial as money! |
| Candace Carmouche 09.10.2009 | i would say thats a good idea, but then if they did, nobody would buy ean's and hence, hed probably have to stop doing this whole website lol. just make them moddable thats all we ask vestax lol |
| Mathew Meins 09.10.2009 | It's missing hot cue buttons IMO! Why don't vestax take a leaf out of DJTT's hat and put some arcade buttons on the next model? =) |
| ceyhun gunaz 09.10.2009 | damn that shit is pretty ill... I am down... wondering how it works on TP... you believe it is mapped perfectly to TP it looks damn near close... Bento!!! someone!! get a test model and upload videos!!! Could this be a new SE from the man the myth, the compulsive mastermind Ean?? |
| Jayne Yellowhair 08.10.2009 | http://www.djdeals.com/vestaxTR1.htm $549 each |
| Leota Saniuk 08.10.2009 | yet another controller announced: more details: http://ci.vestax.com/en/products/tr1_03.html http://futuremusic.com/blog/2009/10/...ro-controller/ |
| Luann Scatterday 19.09.2009 | Yeah ... Japan should have a few units to spare at least :P |
| Erline Kahana 19.09.2009 | I'm not getting it in Europe and it's not a display/test device. Vestax are getting a couple for the uk in again soon for sale in the uk. 2 people will be very lucky indeed. |
| Luann Scatterday 18.09.2009 | It must be a demo unit m8. I have one in my shop, it's the only one in Portugal thru official channels, and it's basically for demos. I could sell if I wanted to, but I'd be rather stupid if I did. But then again Portugal is really small so I'm not amzed only one unit was assigned to the all country, on a Bigger country I quite sure there's bound to be more demo units! Z |
| Erline Kahana 18.09.2009 | I am not allowed to say as it is breaking their terms and conditions with Vestax. Soz |
| Aleen Mcgilvray 18.09.2009 | which company did you use for import? |
| Erline Kahana 18.09.2009 | Well I finally have this winging it's way to me via dodgy import. Decks.co.uk couldn't commit a date and Vestax kept putting the date back for Europewide delivery. I will try and shoot some video when I get it. Cannot wait to play with this thing. |
| Yon Gigler 10.09.2009 | Ah right. No I never set a modifier to the effects button on their own. Makes sense now. Thanks very much djmoonie for the advice. |
| Vernon Positano 10.09.2009 | ok, thats because you have one function set on a modifier and the default function set with no modifier, which means it will always happen. So, in your example, you have modifier one switching between (say) 0 and 1 when pressed on and off. You need to add M1=0 to your fx buttons so that when M1=1 they dont act as fx buttons. I suspect at the moment, they have no modifier at all ? Think of the modifiers like this:- If the modifier equals a certain value when I press a certain key, then do the function mapped, otherwise do nothing. |
| Yon Gigler 10.09.2009 | I seen these modifiers at the botton of the mapping screen. I've read threw the tutorial about modifiers and set up some maps myself BUT..... What I've done is use the "key" button as modifier no1 and used the fx on/off buttons as hotcues 1-4. The only problem is when I select it yeah it jumps to the correct hotcue but the effect comes on also. How do I stop it? |
| Vernon Positano 10.09.2009 | Sounds very much like the way the VCI-100 works. If your tr-1 shift button isn't affecting every button, you can as already hinted at.. use modifiers to alter the function of a single button, so you get something like:- when M1=0 function is 'play' when M1=1 function is 'jump to cue' etc.. |
| Yon Gigler 10.09.2009 | Well had a little play about with midiox. Seems that the shift key only works with the buttons within that section I tried to use it on the effect buttons but the signal never changed. Bit dissapointed. Hopefully there is a way round it. |
| Vernon Positano 10.09.2009 | Just believe of your tr-1 as a totally configurable pair of cdj's and mixer, where the button functions aren't set in stone |
| Yon Gigler 10.09.2009 | Thanks guys for the advice. I've downloaded midiox and will use to work out my TR-1 (hopefully). As I said before its just the shift buttons I don't understand and how to differentiate between the signal. I'll also check out the tutorial on midi mapping too. Just so much to get my head around. I've been too used to sticking a cd in the cdj and hitting play |
| Shelby Blancaflor 10.09.2009 | yeah I missed that point, but anyway maybe if he doesn't want to get into midiox mapping it flatly with Traktor's native modifiers could be a feasible workaround couldn't it? To be honest I don't quite get the advantage of using a shift that's operating on the controller unit |
| Vernon Positano 10.09.2009 | derjay.. its not just modifiers we are talking about here, its what shifting capabilities are supported natively on the unit. |
| Shelby Blancaflor 10.09.2009 | you should google for the traktorbible, there is a free downloadable tutorial on midi mapping. There you wanna look up the chapter about modifiers, which should sort your problem out |
| Vernon Positano 10.09.2009 | If you use a program like midi ox, you can find out what signals are sent when various controls and shift buttons are used. Once you understand how the unit functions, then mapping it out should be straight forward. It can be confusing at first.. Take the VCI-100 for example. It has some 'shift' capabilities built in, namely in the effects section. This means that certain buttons send different signals, depending on what other buttons are pressed. However, you can also do a ton of 'shifting' via software, even if your controller doesn't support it directly. So the line becomes blurred between whats been done by the controller, and whats been done in the software. |
| Yon Gigler 10.09.2009 |
Originally Posted by djmoonie
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