The Vestax Spin DJ Controller!

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The Vestax Spin DJ Controller!
Posted on: 17.11.2009 by Humberto Partis
Hi everyone!

So, this awesomeness midicontroller has landed to the earth, and some of you already know the name of it, Vestax Spin DJ Controller!

Anyways, I got some questions!

Some people on DJTT already got it, I saw some comments on the "news" thingy about the controller, and I was wondering, can someone make a review? Video reviews? Some samples?

And I got this question about the controller in general!

I'm heading to the states in about 38 days, i'm going to stay there for.. 5 weeks! And, already the Spin Controller has been sold out in apple store (shipping in 2-3 weeks)! AND the bad thingy is that - when i'm getting there, the christmas weekend has started and i'm guessing that it's going to be sold out kind of quick

ANYWHO, what do you believe about the problem i'll got there? Can I order it when im in the states, and be KNOWING that 2-3 weeks it's on my cousins doorstep? because, sometimes (so i heard) apple can ship stuff after, like.. 4-5 weeks when it says 2-3 weeks

I'll hope this thread can be like a "official" Vestax Spin DJ Controller!
Info about the controller, and news articles and so on!

Have a great day!

ps. if you got the controller, please make a review or youtubevideo or something when your using it! ds.
Latoria Kavulich
29.11.2009
Originally Posted by MiL0
for me, the slider eq's are a definite plus - much easier to slide a slider than it is to turn a knob imo... much easier to 'see' in a dark club as well.
Lol i'm just so used to knobs for so many years
Also it looks piss easy to map as there's not too many parameters on it eh
Sherika Lasee
29.11.2009
Originally Posted by bigbarcelona23
Ok. I was talking just about the Vestax Spin, but all of this information helps and now I know what I need to do in order to get set up with the Vestax Spin. Thanks for all of the help.
Your welcome man! you can download the traktor pro demo & rock out for 30 mins at a time just to get a feel

http://www.native-instruments.com/in...prodemoversion
Alicia Fugh
30.11.2009
Originally Posted by LiveFastStephen
Excuse me but AHHHHHHHH!
sorry.

Whitch TRAKTOR? there are three versions

If you buy the Vestex "spin" or VCI300 (witch both have built in soundcards) you can just get TRAKTOR PRO (which is just software)

If you get the VCI 100 (no built in soundcard) your going to want to get TRAKTOR SCRATCH DUO, or TRAKTOR SCRATCH PRO (much more expensive cause it comes with software and a soundcard.)
Ok. I was talking just about the Vestax Spin, but all of this information helps and now I know what I need to do in order to get set up with the Vestax Spin. Thanks for all of the help.
Arcelia Siebeneck
29.11.2009
Originally Posted by JesterNZDJ
Those fader style eq's would take some getting used to, good for a start tho.
for me, the slider eq's are a definite plus - much easier to slide a slider than it is to turn a knob imo... much easier to 'see' in a dark club as well.
Alison Rabiner
29.11.2009		I would be so amazingly grateful to anyone out there that could help with a mapping of the spin for traktor scratch pro...

it's my first time ever mapping a midi controller- i understand the basics but I'm having a hard time figuring out how to map a few crucial elements

if someone could share their .tsi that they've already made i would jump for joy!

xxx
Sherika Lasee
28.11.2009
Originally Posted by bigbarcelona23
So just to make sure that I am right on this... All i got it do is buy the Traktor software and I don't have to worry about the soundcard because it is included with the Traktor software.

Excuse me but AHHHHHHHH!
sorry.

Whitch TRAKTOR? there are three versions

If you buy the Vestex "spin" or VCI300 (witch both have built in soundcards) you can just get TRAKTOR PRO (which is just software)

If you get the VCI 100 (no built in soundcard) your going to want to get TRAKTOR SCRATCH DUO, or TRAKTOR SCRATCH PRO (much more expensive cause it comes with software and a soundcard.)
Alicia Fugh
28.11.2009
Originally Posted by LiveFastStephen
Yea, The Spins got a sound card built in like the VCI 300, with either you DONT need to get the expensive Traktor package with the Audio 4 or 8 sound card. people just need a separate sound card for the VCI100 cause theres not one in it, or for time code vinyl usage.

As for the Spin & PC, all you need essentially is a computer, the controller, software (with midi mapping), headphones, & speakers.
So just to make sure that I am right on this... All i got it do is buy the Traktor software and I don't have to worry about the soundcard because it is included with the Traktor software.
Latoria Kavulich
28.11.2009		Those fader style eq's would take some getting used to, good for a start tho.
Sherika Lasee
28.11.2009
Originally Posted by bigbarcelona23
Then all I need is traktor. I only need the software??? I wouldn't need anything else???

I don't care about Serato I was just really using it as an example.
Yea, The Spins got a sound card built in like the VCI 300, with either you DONT need to get the expensive Traktor package with the Audio 4 or 8 sound card. people just need a separate sound card for the VCI100 cause theres not one in it, or for time code vinyl usage.

As for the Spin & PC, all you need essentially is a computer, the controller, software (with midi mapping), headphones, & speakers.
Alicia Fugh
28.11.2009
Originally Posted by LiveFastStephen
If your planning to use serato with a vestax controller your best off buyinh the VCI300 (600$ used) other wise youd have to buy a seroto soundcard(for around $400 used) plus this controller ($250 currently only available new)

so if you add up those numbers the VCI 300 is a much more solid and professional grade unit for a lower price.

Traktor on the other hand with the "spin" is a smart choice for a beginner on a slight budget.
Then all I need is traktor. I only need the software??? I wouldn't need anything else???

I don't care about Serato I was just really using it as an example.
Sherika Lasee
28.11.2009
Originally Posted by bigbarcelona23
I am looking into buying this device... primarily because I don't find it in my aspect the Numark Stealth appealing at all.

But I have a PC and I know the software is not compatible with PC.

I've heard that the hardware is compatible with a PC laptop, but can I use let's say traktor or better yet serato with this hardware so it can work on my PC?

Hopefully someone answers my question and I hope it works.
If your planning to use serato with a vestax controller your best off buyinh the VCI300 (600$ used) other wise youd have to buy a seroto soundcard(for around $400 used) plus this controller ($250 currently only available new)

so if you add up those numbers the VCI 300 is a much more solid and professional grade unit for a lower price.

Traktor on the other hand with the "spin" is a smart choice for a beginner on a slight budget.
Sherika Lasee
28.11.2009		It's funny iv got the sickest digital enhancing software CS4 on m computer and could have made this look actually real, but i decided to go with MS Paint...





i only sampled silver knobs and faders you can buy individually online (so it's fully creatable if you like it.)
Alicia Fugh
28.11.2009		I am looking into buying this device... primarily because I don't find it in my aspect the Numark Stealth appealing at all.

But I have a PC and I know the software is not compatible with PC.

I've heard that the hardware is compatible with a PC laptop, but can I use let's say traktor or better yet serato with this hardware so it can work on my PC?

Hopefully someone answers my question and I hope it works.
Antonia Dodgens
27.11.2009		i really thought this controller was a joke only because of the software and AUTOMIX but from a real standpoint that isnt coming from a hater such as myself, how is this djay software spin hardware combo
juan garcia
27.11.2009
Originally Posted by atticus18244fsas
In the end it's like a $10 difference. I would assume the DJio is better quality than the one in the spin too.
why do you assume that? the dj/io is pretty much bottom of the barrel.....
Margot Perski
27.11.2009
Originally Posted by DJ Phatso
As you would expect, it is seen as 2 in / 2 Out sound card,so you'll need to use ASIO4all if you want to access the headphone ouput (it seems to work fine on my Win 7 system).

As for MIDI, it's standard MIDI In/Out controller, but, as mentioned before, there is that annoying Loopback issues, which is a bit problematic since everyone wants the LEDs...
So as long as I have ASIO4all, it's fine right?

It's really tempting for me to take this over the Omni Control ($100 more and the jog doesn't seem so interesting to use).
Vergie Nickum
26.11.2009
Originally Posted by itsmeborna
Well, with time i'll guess there will be one.
Does stealth come with a int-soundcard?
Nope.
DJio+Stealth=$300 (No tax)
Vestax Spin=$250+tax

In the end it's like a $10 difference. I would assume the DJio is better quality than the one in the spin too.
Humberto Partis
26.11.2009
Originally Posted by atticus18244fsas
Ya but still. The quality of the Stealth and it working directly with Traktor are my main reasons for deciding. This seems like more of a super beginner thing. I would like to see a vid with a dj with expericne though trying this out.
Well, with time i'll guess there will be one.
Does stealth come with a int-soundcard?
Vergie Nickum
26.11.2009
Originally Posted by itsmeborna
Well, I believe the controller is very good! And, thingy with the video is that he aint a DJ! I believe, if someone more pro did a review, would be much better.
Ya but still. The quality of the Stealth and it working directly with Traktor are my main reasons for deciding. This seems like more of a super beginner thing. I would like to see a vid with a dj with expericne though trying this out.
Valda Mousseau
25.11.2009		Bunch of newb questions here. Why the VCI-300 was so attractive was that Itch and Scratch were so closely integrated; i.e. you could use the VCI-300 as a home thing, then just grab the laptop and control vinyl to play in a club SL1/SL3 setup (in New Zealand there ain't nothing but Serato setup in the clubs )
This thing looks like a MUCH more affordable solution for the home mucking around thing, but you'd have to maintain a separate Scratch library and that DJay software looks uber-gimmicky tbh. As I understand it, you can't map a jogwheel-based controller to Scratch Live (is that still right?) so could you map the Spin to Itch to at least keep the shared libraries? Or has Serato locked away the midi maps for Itch still?

Cheers
Humberto Partis
25.11.2009
Originally Posted by atticus18244fsas
After watching the youtube videos I have a pretty good idea of what this controller is capable of. Even though the scratching video of the guy in the "club" is sweet, I don't believe I'm going to be able to live with the limited controls and crappy software. I'm gonna get the Numark Stealth and DJio. $10 more than the spin but the Stealth is so much better. Good luck for you guys who get this. Make sure you post a review.
Well, I believe the controller is very good! And, thingy with the video is that he aint a DJ! I believe, if someone more pro did a review, would be much better.
Vergie Nickum
25.11.2009		After watching the youtube videos I have a pretty good idea of what this controller is capable of. Even though the scratching video of the guy in the "club" is sweet, I don't believe I'm going to be able to live with the limited controls and crappy software. I'm gonna get the Numark Stealth and DJio. $10 more than the spin but the Stealth is so much better. Good luck for you guys who get this. Make sure you post a review.
Vergie Nickum
25.11.2009
Originally Posted by itsmeborna
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPMGynRc8nA&feature=sub

Part 2 of the "review" Well, he justs plays a track. Dosent do anything special, some looping.

Anyways, great to see it in use!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEiCsm6IPow&feature=sub

Guess this is the full review!
Awesome thanks
Humberto Partis
25.11.2009		http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPMGynRc8nA&feature=sub

Part 2 of the "review" Well, he justs plays a track. Dosent do anything special, some looping.

Anyways, great to see it in use!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEiCsm6IPow&feature=sub

Guess this is the full review!
Zenia Boomsma
24.11.2009
Originally Posted by DJ Phatso
I've had the exact same issues and I've figured out that it only occur if you have a MIDI loop going (i.e. have the MIDI In send something to the MIDI Out). I've had the same results when trying with MIDI apps like MIDI Pipes, MIDI Patchbay or MIDI OX on PC ( yes, it happens there too!)
Oh! However, that won't help with making the lights work (since they run on the same MIDI Out as the MIDI In for the sliders). This could be more complicated than I originally thought. There must be a work around to get the lights and the controls to work together without causing the controller to freeze.
Arcelia Siebeneck
24.11.2009
Originally Posted by DJ Phatso
Indeed, only the main output is recognized.

This is the case with many USB sound cards available on the market. Unless a dedicated WDM and/or ASIO driver is present, it will be seen as a standard stereo input /output sound card (even when advertised as a 5.1 card).
so it doesn't come with a proper ASIO pc driver? what are Vestax believeing of?!
Celsa Courtemanche
25.11.2009		yes, for OS X , It's sees as 4 In/4 Out.
Vergie Nickum
24.11.2009
Originally Posted by DJ Phatso
Indeed, only the main output is recognized.

This is the case with many USB sound cards available on the market. Unless a dedicated WDM and/or ASIO driver is present, it will be seen as a standard stereo input /output sound card (even when advertised as a 5.1 card).
Were talking about just PC right? This thing would work fine with main and headphone output on Mac right?
Celsa Courtemanche
24.11.2009		Indeed, only the main output is recognized.

This is the case with many USB sound cards available on the market. Unless a dedicated WDM and/or ASIO driver is present, it will be seen as a standard stereo input /output sound card (even when advertised as a 5.1 card).
Arcelia Siebeneck
24.11.2009		wha? 2 mono ins / 2 mono outs? so traktor wouldn't see the headphone output as a separate out?
Celsa Courtemanche
24.11.2009
Originally Posted by b1uegh0st
Can someone who has it just do a simple test of plugging it to a PC? I believe that's a question that a lot of us are waiting for the answer now...

Most of us don't care about the software, just the hardware itself.
As you would expect, it is seen as 2 in / 2 Out sound card,so you'll need to use ASIO4all if you want to access the headphone ouput (it seems to work fine on my Win 7 system).

As for MIDI, it's standard MIDI In/Out controller, but, as mentioned before, there is that annoying Loopback issues, which is a bit problematic since everyone wants the LEDs...
Murray Warning
24.11.2009		nice one
Arcelia Siebeneck
24.11.2009
Originally Posted by atticus18244fsas
I'm sure it will be released soon enough on all the Apple stores. Or just check ebay in a couple of weeks.

someone is selling them on ebay at the moment... for a massively overpriced amount!
Margot Perski
24.11.2009		Can someone who has it just do a simple test of plugging it to a PC? I believe that's a question that a lot of us are waiting for the answer now...

Most of us don't care about the software, just the hardware itself.
Coy Galeone
23.11.2009		Yeah that's what I'm hoping for.
Vergie Nickum
23.11.2009
Originally Posted by Josh
Been lurking the last couple of weeks. I'm interested in getting one of these, but haven't been able to find anyway to get one into Australia.
Anyone got any ideas?
I'm sure it will be released soon enough on all the Apple stores. Or just check ebay in a couple of weeks.
Coy Galeone
23.11.2009		Been lurking the last couple of weeks. I'm interested in getting one of these, but haven't been able to find anyway to get one into Australia.
Anyone got any ideas?
Celsa Courtemanche
23.11.2009
Originally Posted by glassm
I had some issues with the controller. Once in a while, the controller wouldn't send MIDI signals to my computer. I'm pretty sure it wasn't how my mapping was programmed. I believe it might be that the USB cable was a little loose. I'm still experimenting with it.

Anyway, the controller would still receive data for the master and monitor outs, even though the midi didn't work. It kind of sucked, I had to control the computer with my mouse during the peak of my set. At least it worked with Traktor!

I'll have to test whether or not it's a software or hardware problem.
I've had the exact same issues and I've figured out that it only occur if you have a MIDI loop going (i.e. have the MIDI In send something to the MIDI Out). I've had the same results when trying with MIDI apps like MIDI Pipes, MIDI Patchbay or MIDI OX on PC ( yes, it happens there too!)
Vergie Nickum
23.11.2009
Originally Posted by itsmeborna
Hey! same here, kind of surprised that there is not many videos out yet!
I'm waiting for this youtube guy to post a review soon when he uses it!

Anyways! I've allready posted that, 2 pages back! or maybe one page
Ya man I messaged that one guy for a review of it too.
Arcelia Siebeneck
23.11.2009		I've got a friend who's going to NYC for NYE - gonna try and get him to bring me one back...

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