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The Pioneer DJM-T1 mixer
Posted on: 25.05.2011 by Phil Ponte
Hello everyone!
I am new to this community , so excuse me, if I posted this theme on the wrong place.

I have decided to buy my first mixer, and I fell in love with the pioneer latest DJM-T1 Traktor compatible mixer. Now I have been mixing for some time with DJ Traktor, so I believe that this is a perfect match for me. But however I have some questions:
1. Can I use this mixer with the latest Traktor DJ 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJQjaQ6rWpw)?
2. Can I use this mixer without the twin decks?

I am limited with my money reserves, so I would like to buy mixer only first. Could there be any problems when mixing? I was believeing about it, and basically you don't need the twin decks for playing the music, because it is all on the hard drive. I am going to buy the decks later, that is for sure, but now I don't have the money.

The problem when not using the two decks is the beatmatching. I have been using the sync button so far, but yes, I had some problems. Never the less, those were only small problems, and the were easly covered with effects. Could I perform using only the laptop with Traktor DJ 2 and the mixer DJM-T1, or do I must have the twin decks?

I have been also believeing about the two different options:
1. The new Pioneer Traktor compatible controller, DDJ-T1.
But there's a problem. I will have the controller probably only till I am able to buy the full set, that means, that later on, I would have to sell it. Not actually my style.
2. The 2xCDJ & DJM 350 set. A great thing, especially for the beginners. But the mixer isn't compatible with Traktor, and that means a lot less effects.

Now, when I buy something, I intend to keep it for some time, that is why I would like to buy DJM-T1 mixer? Could I perform on gigs with ONLY the DJM-T1 and the Traktor software or not (that would last for a year probably, then I will definetly buy the twin decks)?

Thanks for your help!

Here is also the site to the new mixer:
http://pioneerdj.com/index_f.html#/en/products/djmt1
Phil Ponte
28.05.2011
And here are the best music stores with the DJ gear :
-http://www.u-grooves.com/ (for the DJ go under ,,DJ oprema'' and then you have headphones ,,slu
Phil Ponte
28.05.2011
And here are the best music stores with the DJ gear :
-http://www.u-grooves.com/ (for the DJ go under ,,DJ oprema'' and then you have headphones ,,slu
Phil Ponte
28.05.2011
And here are the best music stores with the DJ gear :
-http://www.u-grooves.com/ (for the DJ go under ,,DJ oprema'' and then you have headphones ,,slu
Phil Ponte
28.05.2011
And here are the best music stores with the DJ gear :
-http://www.u-grooves.com/ (for the DJ go under ,,DJ oprema'' and then you have headphones ,,slu
Phil Ponte
28.05.2011
And here are the best music stores with the DJ gear :
-http://www.u-grooves.com/ (for the DJ go under ,,DJ oprema'' and then you have headphones ,,slu
Phil Ponte
28.05.2011
And here are the best music stores with the DJ gear :
-http://www.u-grooves.com/ (for the DJ go under ,,DJ oprema'' and then you have headphones ,,slu
Phil Ponte
28.05.2011
And here are the best music stores with the DJ gear :
-http://www.u-grooves.com/ (for the DJ go under ,,DJ oprema'' and then you have headphones ,,slu
Phil Ponte
28.05.2011
And here are the best music stores with the DJ gear :
-http://www.u-grooves.com/ (for the DJ go under ,,DJ oprema'' and then you have headphones ,,slu
Phil Ponte
28.05.2011
And here are the best music stores with the DJ gear :
-http://www.u-grooves.com/ (for the DJ go under ,,DJ oprema'' and then you have headphones ,,slu
Phil Ponte
28.05.2011
And here are the best music stores with the DJ gear :
-http://www.u-grooves.com/ (for the DJ go under ,,DJ oprema'' and then you have headphones ,,slu
Phil Ponte
28.05.2011
And here are the best music stores with the DJ gear :
-http://www.u-grooves.com/ (for the DJ go under ,,DJ oprema'' and then you have headphones ,,slu
Phil Ponte
28.05.2011
And here are the best music stores with the DJ gear :
-http://www.u-grooves.com/ (for the DJ go under ,,DJ oprema'' and then you have headphones ,,slu
Gloria Lemmel
28.05.2011
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
That's not true, if you read has last post before that he was talking about how he certainly wants a NI X1.

This whole thread is rubbish, the guy doesn't have any clue what he wants.

The S4 is compatible with the whole traktor timecode so you can still get turntables like you said you wanted.

Ugh fuck this.
Yes he did. In my post I wrote that he doesn't want an all in one controller. The X1 is for effects, cues and such, but as you most definitely know, it can't do everything that you really need.

Generally, I understand where you're coming from. He seems quite unsure about what he wants, but I believe that the more technologically knowledgeable people on this community should take the roles of assisting unsure people about what they want and need.

We helped him move from a $1600 mixer to an $800 mixer, gave him advice, which I love doing, so to me, that's great progress. Cutting your investment in half for a more equipped model seems like a good piece of advice and a good move in the correct direction.
Kiyoko Wellisch
27.05.2011
Originally Posted by Yep.
I believe you guys didn't read Nietz's earlier posts, he wants control over Traktor, but without a controller. As to why, I'm not sure, but I suggested the S4 earlier in the thread and he doesn't want an all in one.
That's not true, if you read has last post before that he was talking about how he certainly wants a NI X1.

This whole thread is rubbish, the guy doesn't have any clue what he wants.

The S4 is compatible with the whole traktor timecode so you can still get turntables like you said you wanted.

Ugh fuck this.
Dino Hapgood
27.05.2011
Originally Posted by Neitz
Ok, with the setup done, I would like to ask you guys about one last thing - the speakers.

I am looking for strong and quality speakers for external use mainly and not studio monitors. Of course I would use them in studio purposes as well, but mainly for parties.

Maximum price for a pair of speakers would be in the range from 600-800 euros (855,90-1.141,20 dollars). What would you recommend?
B52 Matrix 1000 system.

http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com...LAID=211052398

BTW: You still need headphones, remember that, so don't blow all of your money on the speakers.
Phil Ponte
30.05.2011
Thanks to the crew of DJTT that is . However I am having difficulties finding the previously mentioned stereo system. I am trying to find a nice substitute, because I believe that the shipping would cost me a hell of a lot money.

Could some of you advise which ones to buy from the site mentioned below:
http://www.u-grooves.com/dj_oprema/zvocniki/28

I do already have some prepositions but I want to gather an equal opinion.
Bess Schulmeister
30.05.2011
I believe You can't go wrong with this setup! Nice choice mate!
Phil Ponte
28.05.2011
So, yeah I am having troubles finding the mentioned stereo system in my country.

The best site for it is the above mentioned u-grooves, but the mentioned system isn't there.

I am redirecting you to the speakers site directly:
http://www.u-grooves.com/dj_oprema/zvocniki/28
Phil Ponte
28.05.2011
And here are the best music stores with the DJ gear :
-http://www.u-grooves.com/ (for the DJ go under ,,DJ oprema'' and then you have headphones ,,slu
Kiyoko Wellisch
28.05.2011
Sounds good man.
Phil Ponte
28.05.2011
Ok, so my set would consist of:
-Denon DN-X1600
-Traktor X1 controller
-Traktor Pro 2 software + Acer laptop
-Pioneer HDJ-2000 headphones
Gloria Lemmel
28.05.2011
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
That's not true, if you read has last post before that he was talking about how he certainly wants a NI X1.

This whole thread is rubbish, the guy doesn't have any clue what he wants.

The S4 is compatible with the whole traktor timecode so you can still get turntables like you said you wanted.

Ugh fuck this.
Yes he did. In my post I wrote that he doesn't want an all in one controller. The X1 is for effects, cues and such, but as you most definitely know, it can't do everything that you really need.

Generally, I understand where you're coming from. He seems quite unsure about what he wants, but I believe that the more technologically knowledgeable people on this community should take the roles of assisting unsure people about what they want and need.

We helped him move from a $1600 mixer to an $800 mixer, gave him advice, which I love doing, so to me, that's great progress. Cutting your investment in half for a more equipped model seems like a good piece of advice and a good move in the correct direction.
Kiyoko Wellisch
27.05.2011
Originally Posted by Yep.
I believe you guys didn't read Nietz's earlier posts, he wants control over Traktor, but without a controller. As to why, I'm not sure, but I suggested the S4 earlier in the thread and he doesn't want an all in one.
That's not true, if you read has last post before that he was talking about how he certainly wants a NI X1.

This whole thread is rubbish, the guy doesn't have any clue what he wants.

The S4 is compatible with the whole traktor timecode so you can still get turntables like you said you wanted.

Ugh fuck this.
Gloria Lemmel
27.05.2011
Yeah, financially, It's gonna have to wait a while. I've got too much going on outside of DJing to really be able to make a purchase above $800 right now, but when I get the funds I'll definitely check them out.
Dino Hapgood
27.05.2011
Yep, if you don't mind spending a bit more money I suggest the b52 matrix 2000 as opposed to the 1000. I have heard nothing but solid reviews and if you need more noise you can apparently daisy chain the systems or whatever. From what I understand the matrix systems are about the best speakers you can get without having to drop 4 grand on a set up and the sound quality is on par with the lower-high end speakers. I haven't used them myself but I've toyed with the idea of getting a 1000 set for my house parties next year.
Gloria Lemmel
27.05.2011
First and Foremost, great find Frank, I might look into a set of those B-52s if I get a few more gigs in the near future. They look good and easy to set up, and the subwoofer always helps as a DJ who really focuses on Bass Heavy music.


Now onto headphones, I would definitely recommend buying new headphones. Yes the HD 595s are phenomenal headphones, I have some in my studio, but they are open backed, so all external sound leaks in. They're made so that you can hear the mixdown of a track in your speaker system and compare that sound to what you hear in your headphones.

I would highly suggest the Pioneer HDJ-2000s. The crucial joints (the places that break first) are built from Magnesium and Aluminum, so they won't break easily at all. There's a video of a guy weighing himself and then sitting down very hard on his HDJ-2000s and they didn't break. They'll last you almost literally forever, and I believe that the sound quality is comparable if not better than the HD 595s.

In terms of the build, they're ridiculously light, even when compared to a set of fully plastic headphones, but they still have a rugged feel, like they can take a beating. Steve Aoki was talking about them in an interview he had and he said that he beats up his gear at gigs. He used to go through a set of headphones in a few gigs, mainly because he swings them around and throws them at drops, but his set of HDJ-2000s have lasted him since he got them. With regards to isolation, I'd expect more isolation from a pair of headphones that are priced at $450, but the sound really emphasizes the kicks, snares and hihats, which really let you feel a mix better. But don't get me wrong, the isolation is fantastic, just for $450, not what I expected. They are still more than worth it, especially if you can get them from amazon for $25 more than half price, and they beat out any headphone in that range in almost everything, besides maybe the Xone 53s with isolation.

You can get them from Amazon for between $250 and $275 (192 Euros + International Shipping Max) instead of the MSRP which is $450. I love mine with a passion and wouldn't trade them for any other headphones.

If you're looking for pure isolation, you can perform the mod here to your current setup: http://www.djranking s.com/2010/06/2...e-hack-repair/

You could take out the drivers from your HD 595s and put them in a set of ear protectors, and you can't hear shit but the music. They look alright, but they seem more like a temporary fix.

I'd still urge you to go with the HDJ-2000s because they're phenomenal, and the price fits your budget.

I'd recommend that you also have 2 sets of speakers. One set of studio monitors for practice to refine your mixes, and one set of speakers to play out with. I use the M-Audio AV40s ($122 from amazon) for studio use and they work fine. Plus you'll have the subwoofer from the other set if you really need the extra bass.

Can you tell me exactly what the projected setup you've decided on will be? Just list it like this, but replace my stuff with yours:

Traktor Kontrol S4 (Main unit, put your mixer here)
Technics 1200Mk5 Turntables (Anything that you'll run into the mixer)
DJTT MIDI Fighter (Controllers, I believe you have an X1 and were believeing of getting a Xone 1D)
Native Instruments Maschine (Any other controllers)
Pioneer HDJ-200 (Headphones)
Phil Ponte
27.05.2011
I already have the Sennheiser HD 595 headphones. I don't know if I need to buy another ones. Their sound is superb, the only problem is, that they don't isolate the external sounds that good.
Dino Hapgood
27.05.2011
Originally Posted by Neitz
Ok, with the setup done, I would like to ask you guys about one last thing - the speakers.

I am looking for strong and quality speakers for external use mainly and not studio monitors. Of course I would use them in studio purposes as well, but mainly for parties.

Maximum price for a pair of speakers would be in the range from 600-800 euros (855,90-1.141,20 dollars). What would you recommend?
B52 Matrix 1000 system.

http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com...LAID=211052398

BTW: You still need headphones, remember that, so don't blow all of your money on the speakers.
Phil Ponte
27.05.2011
Ok, with the setup done, I would like to ask you guys about one last thing - the speakers.

I am looking for strong and quality speakers for external use mainly and not studio monitors. Of course I would use them in studio purposes as well, but mainly for parties.

Maximum price for a pair of speakers would be in the range from 600-800 euros (855,90-1.141,20 dollars). What would you recommend?
Phil Ponte
27.05.2011
Exactly! Simultanious controller is not an option, because I will upgrade on decks later on.
Gloria Lemmel
27.05.2011
I believe you guys didn't read Nietz's earlier posts, he wants control over Traktor, but without a controller. As to why, I'm not sure, but I suggested the S4 earlier in the thread and he doesn't want an all in one.

The Xone 92 is an analog mixer, so it doesn't send MIDI. That's part of the reason that the price is fair. Note that in order to use turntables/CDJs with the 92 and have it run into traktor, you need to purchase a native instruments certified soundcard. With the X1600, the sound card is built-in, so you won't have to worry about the extra $250-$400 on a native soundcard. Just something to believe about.

Really your best option here would be the X1600. It's the only mixer out of this lineup that will really give you that full control over Traktor that you want.
Tatum Ansaldo
27.05.2011
agreed. total 1 to 1 control over Traktor = S4.
Kiyoko Wellisch
27.05.2011
If you want total control over s4 that just works and you don't have to worry about the technical side of it with things like sound cards just get the S4. It sounds perfect for you in my opinion.
Phil Ponte
27.05.2011
All I want is complete control over Traktor. X1 is definetly my choice. For the mixer I apologize, I meant Xone DX which is a midi controller, but is originally made for Itch.

Very simple. I know how to use Traktor very good by now, so a complete control over it will do the trick. I am looking for a mixer that can give me this.
Tatum Ansaldo
27.05.2011
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Dude, decide what you want from a mixer first. You can't just ask if these are good. They are all good. Good doesn't mean anything.

How's with the Traktor compatibility? Uh. Dude it's a mixer. It doesn't have midi or a sound card or anything for that matter. There is nothing to be compatible.

Seriously, you need to start doing your research and deciding what features you want, why you want them and how much you're willing to pay for them. Then you can decide what you want to get.
This. The DN-X1600 has a built in soundcard and is Traktor Scratch Certified. The xone 92 is not. but the xone is an absolutely fantastic analogue mixer. Don't just ask others which mixers are good, ask yourself what you want features wise.
Corey Tronchin
27.05.2011
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
I love how you went from the Pioneer DJM T1 to the Behringer DDM4000.

Dude I'm buying a Bugatti Veyron. Actually NM. 1998 fiat panda.
I lol'd.

come to believe of it, is there already someone on these community s owning this ridiculously overpriced monster?
If there isn't anyone here, I can safely assume:

1. Common sense is well present on these community s;
2. Pioneer isn't making any money on this mixer since it's targeted buyers should be on these community s.
Kiyoko Wellisch
27.05.2011
Dude, decide what you want from a mixer first. You can't just ask if these are good. They are all good. Good doesn't mean anything.

How's with the Traktor compatibility? Uh. Dude it's a mixer. It doesn't have midi or a sound card or anything for that matter. There is nothing to be compatible.

Seriously, you need to start doing your research and deciding what features you want, why you want them and how much you're willing to pay for them. Then you can decide what you want to get.
Phil Ponte
27.05.2011
Hey guys, what do you believe about Allen & Heath Xone 92 mixer? A friend of mine has just recommended this mixer to me. It is almost in the same price range and is said to be just as good or even better than DN-X1600.

How's with the Traktor compatibility?
Kiyoko Wellisch
26.05.2011
I love how you went from the Pioneer DJM T1 to the Behringer DDM4000.

Dude I'm buying a Bugatti Veyron. Actually NM. 1998 fiat panda.
Gloria Lemmel
26.05.2011
You're Welcome. I'm glad I could help.

Enjoy your gear when you get it!

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