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Korg nanoPad2 first impressions

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Korg nanoPad2 first impressions Posted on: 15.04.2011 by Kandra Fagler okay i got the new nanoPAD2 today i must say im not very impressed the pads arent as responsive as the akai LPD8 (which i still got) or even the old nanoPAD (first gen, which i had and i broke) worst thing is the software, they give you a serial number for you to input in the korg kontrol editor but the current version of the kontrol editor does not even support the new nanoSeries so yeah this product does not have any kontrol editor yet (as of today - i even browsed uk japan and usa korg sites with no luck) Did the product get released before the drivers are ready or something?? Anyone else got this and had any luck finding the right kontrol editor link to download? for slower drumming performances they are okay but for rapid fire ultra fast cue juggling - the pads arent for it just my two cents on this new product in case anyone is considering getting one - TRY BEFORE YOU BUY! they are cheap indeed but imo the LPD8s have a much better feel, although much lesser buttons
Gavin Rachor 26.06.2011	Originally Posted by mikeluv but there's no acapella version of songs for sell. I found some pretty interesting ones in Ean's juggling routine vids. There are plenty of acapellas for sale. Just go to beatport.com and search acapella and you'll get several thousand results.
Chasidy Heckenbach 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by mikeluv I just started DJing recently, and got in love with "controllerism", borrowed my friend's nanopad and realised the drum pads on the nanos just ain't responsive enough to play Ean's stuff, and then there was PAD-One. First I bought pad-one was simply to trigger cue points and samples, but unexpectedly the pads are so responsive that can be used as an instrument. So here am I for new idea about controllerism and free MP3s. cool. controllerism does seem quite addictive. i'm more old school i guess. sold my 1200's about 3 years ago and hadn't really produced any of my own music in years either - but this has all sparked my interest in music+dj'ing back to life... not sure about free mp3's... maybe thats ok if you're not planning on playing out but personally i beleive in paying for them. they're a damn lot cheaper than the vinyl i used to buy anyway. i'm sure there's some free/legal ones to get too tho...
Hayden Kiska 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by zestoi no software is no biggie i guess as once it's setup it's not going to be changed often. shame about no midi on the rotary tho - would have been useful - else that encoder will just sit there pointlessly unused almost all the time. 1-16 will be to set the midi channel. I just started DJing recently, and got in love with "controllerism", borrowed my friend's nanopad and realised the drum pads on the nanos just ain't responsive enough to play Ean's stuff, and then there was PAD-One. First I bought pad-one was simply to trigger cue points and samples, but unexpectedly the pads are so responsive that can be used as an instrument. So here am I for new idea about controllerism and free MP3s.
Chasidy Heckenbach 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by mikeluv There's no software/discs in the box for editing fyi, might be able to download it off the internet somewhere maybe. And I just tried, the encoder doesn't seem to send midi signals, but it does show C01 ~ C16, what does mean? Channel 1~16? what does that do? no software is no biggie i guess as once it's setup it's not going to be changed often. shame about no midi on the rotary tho - would have been useful - else that encoder will just sit there pointlessly unused almost all the time. 1-16 will be to set the midi channel.
Hayden Kiska 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by zestoi ok.... easy on.... with your comments and all the cross posting we'll start assuming you're trolling for vestax kidding... ish as i said just before - thats probably a nice feature when drum programming etc but pretty pointless when using as a dj controller imho. personally i'd rather use a windows app to change the settings so i can see them all on one screen - then be done with it. i presume the vestax comes with some software like too tho? would be dumb not to anyway. it does seem like a nice package tho - will def wait to see how much the price comes down as it seems too high atm - esp as u paid 200$ for one... edit: having the option to change the params on the controller itself is still a nice feature ofc - but i'd prefer to use that rotary encoder to send midi - which i hope/assume is also an option? There's no software/discs in the box for editing fyi, might be able to download it off the internet somewhere maybe. And I just tried, the encoder doesn't seem to send midi signals, but it does show C01 ~ C16, what does mean? Channel 1~16? what does that do?
Chasidy Heckenbach 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by mikeluv There's another cool thing about PAD-One is that it's got "Edit" function "built in", you can change midi(note & Velocity & CC) signals for each pad, anytime, by editing right on the unit itself. Just click on that black tiny little Edit button on the top right, tab any pad you wanna change, roll the encoder to change value and press the Edit button, whola, DONE! That's so intuitive and convenient. ok.... easy on.... with your comments and all the cross posting we'll start assuming you're trolling for vestax kidding... ish as i said just before - thats probably a nice feature when drum programming etc but pretty pointless when using as a dj controller imho. personally i'd rather use a windows app to change the settings so i can see them all on one screen - then be done with it. i presume the vestax comes with some software like too tho? would be dumb not to anyway. it does seem like a nice package tho - will def wait to see how much the price comes down as it seems too high atm - esp as u paid 200$ for one... edit: having the option to change the params on the controller itself is still a nice feature ofc - but i'd prefer to use that rotary encoder to send midi - which i hope/assume is also an option?
Hayden Kiska 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by zestoi ouch not cheap... personally i have really got into using pads to control effects - and only using a rotary for certain types. 8 fx would have to be too many at the same time anyway unless only used every every now and again i guess i do like the velocity sensitivity combined with the aftertouch of the padone tho - that would be bery handy for effects. with some cunning coding (bomes etc) the aftertouch could be very very useful. you could use the note/cc (not sure what the padone sends - and makes no odds really anyway) data that is sent out after the intial noteon (or non zero cc) to control something completely different - until a noteoff or zero val cc/noteon is received etc.... here's another vid explaining CC notes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAXhaoBMpQQ There's another cool thing about PAD-One is that it's got "Edit" function "built in", you can change midi(note & Velocity & CC) signals for each pad, anytime, by editing right on the unit itself. Just click on that black tiny little Edit button on the top right, tab any pad you wanna change, roll the encoder to change value, and then press the Edit button again, whola, DONE! That's so intuitive and convenient.
Chasidy Heckenbach 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by mikeluv @JPY16,800, that's around USD199. I don't like rotary knobs, prefer Faders better, since with Faders I can control upto 8 FXs at the same time(up to 10 FXs if your thumbs r long enough...), not two. With velocity pads controlling effects? umm~~~ Let your imaginations run wild baby! ouch not cheap... personally i have really got into using pads to control effects - and only using a rotary for certain types. 8 fx would have to be too many at the same time anyway unless only used every every now and again i guess i do like the velocity sensitivity combined with the aftertouch of the padone tho - that would be bery handy for effects. with some cunning coding (bomes etc) the aftertouch could be very very useful. you could use the note/cc (not sure what the padone sends - and makes no odds really anyway) data that is sent out after the intial noteon (or non zero cc) to control something completely different - until a noteoff or zero val cc/noteon is received etc....
Hayden Kiska 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by zestoi plus it does look cool... i also like the idea of the rotary for changing xmitted note numbers while drum programming - tho that rotary would almost get in the way for dj'ing once you've got it all mapped etc. i only recently bought an lpd8 and scs.3d so i have enough to experiment with and map atm tho i might be tempted in a few months if the prices comes down a bit. how much did you pay for it? @JPY16,800, that's around USD199. I don't like rotary knobs, prefer Faders better, since with Faders I can control upto 8 FXs at the same time(up to 10 FXs if your thumbs r long enough...), not two. With velocity pads controlling effects? umm~~~ Let your imaginations run wild baby!
Chasidy Heckenbach 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by mikeluv True that it's a little bit pricey, but the money was well spent IMO, for the aluminum casing and solid build quality , it's really built to last and "touch as brick" like Vestax described... and by saying that, I've dropped it a couple times and it still works. plus it does look cool... i also like the idea of the rotary for changing xmitted note numbers while drum programming - tho that rotary would almost get in the way for dj'ing once you've got it all mapped etc. i only recently bought an lpd8 and scs.3d so i have enough to experiment with and map atm tho i might be tempted in a few months if the prices comes down a bit. how much did you pay for it?
Hayden Kiska 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by zestoi sure - i just meant what you described was after touch - not the video. it does look like a very cool device - just not sure it's worth the cash. i presume they've been released now then? just had a look and the website i found still said "forthcoming" and at 107gbp! ouch... thats about 2.5 times the price of a nanopad2.can't compare to the lpd8 i guess as thats so old its also soooo cheap. if it was a bit cheaper i'd be tempted tho - as basically an upgraded nanopad with much better build quality. cheers for the 2nd video link too - hadn't seen that one. the pads do seem good based on your video. wonder how they compare to the lpd8 ones... True that it's a little bit pricey, but the money was well spent IMO, for the aluminum casing and solid build quality , it's really built to last and "touch as brick" like Vestax described... and by saying that, I've dropped it a couple times and it still works.
Chasidy Heckenbach 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by mikeluv the vid isn't demonstrating the velocity sensitive pads, since the pads in that vid were assigned to Audio(wave files), not MIDI nor from effect racks. sure - i just meant what you described was after touch - not the video. it does look like a very cool device - just not sure it's worth the cash. i presume they've been released now then? just had a look and the website i found still said "forthcoming" and at 107gbp! ouch... thats about 2.5 times the price of a nanopad2.can't compare to the lpd8 i guess as thats so old its also soooo cheap. if it was a bit cheaper i'd be tempted tho - as basically an upgraded nanopad with much better build quality. cheers for the 2nd video link too - hadn't seen that one. the pads do seem good based on your video. wonder how they compare to the lpd8 ones...
Chasidy Heckenbach 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by mikeluv Yup, I got mine almost a month ago, and I'm loving it! The Pads are velocity sensitive(which are very useful controlling effect values, press the pad lightly will start the effect with low value, but while having my finger on it and keep pushing it down will turn the effect knob up). ah cool.... that's aftertouch you just described - didnt realised it had that....
Hayden Kiska 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by BradCee if it's anything like the prototype I fiddled with at bpm last year, it'll be worth it, just about Yup, I got mine almost a month ago, and I'm loving it! The Pads are velocity sensitive(which are very useful controlling effect values, press the pad lightly will start the effect with low value, but while having my finger on it and keep pushing it down will turn the effect knob up). About sensitivity of the pads, here's my 4 song cue juggle attempt, check it @0:44 , you can see how responsive the pads are. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgzX2l6eJqI
Hayden Kiska 14.07.2011	hey mate, i played around with Traktor Pro2 wit' PAD-One, lots of fun pushing the pads controlling FX amounts creating sick noises! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2Lin45ANBk
Hayden Kiska 27.06.2011	Cool! thx bro~ =)
Gavin Rachor 26.06.2011	Originally Posted by mikeluv but there's no acapella version of songs for sell. I found some pretty interesting ones in Ean's juggling routine vids. There are plenty of acapellas for sale. Just go to beatport.com and search acapella and you'll get several thousand results.
Hayden Kiska 26.06.2011	but there's no acapella version of songs for sell. I found some pretty interesting ones in Ean's juggling routine vids.
Chasidy Heckenbach 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by mikeluv I just started DJing recently, and got in love with "controllerism", borrowed my friend's nanopad and realised the drum pads on the nanos just ain't responsive enough to play Ean's stuff, and then there was PAD-One. First I bought pad-one was simply to trigger cue points and samples, but unexpectedly the pads are so responsive that can be used as an instrument. So here am I for new idea about controllerism and free MP3s. cool. controllerism does seem quite addictive. i'm more old school i guess. sold my 1200's about 3 years ago and hadn't really produced any of my own music in years either - but this has all sparked my interest in music+dj'ing back to life... not sure about free mp3's... maybe thats ok if you're not planning on playing out but personally i beleive in paying for them. they're a damn lot cheaper than the vinyl i used to buy anyway. i'm sure there's some free/legal ones to get too tho...
Hayden Kiska 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by zestoi no software is no biggie i guess as once it's setup it's not going to be changed often. shame about no midi on the rotary tho - would have been useful - else that encoder will just sit there pointlessly unused almost all the time. 1-16 will be to set the midi channel. I just started DJing recently, and got in love with "controllerism", borrowed my friend's nanopad and realised the drum pads on the nanos just ain't responsive enough to play Ean's stuff, and then there was PAD-One. First I bought pad-one was simply to trigger cue points and samples, but unexpectedly the pads are so responsive that can be used as an instrument. So here am I for new idea about controllerism and free MP3s.
Chasidy Heckenbach 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by mikeluv There's no software/discs in the box for editing fyi, might be able to download it off the internet somewhere maybe. And I just tried, the encoder doesn't seem to send midi signals, but it does show C01 ~ C16, what does mean? Channel 1~16? what does that do? no software is no biggie i guess as once it's setup it's not going to be changed often. shame about no midi on the rotary tho - would have been useful - else that encoder will just sit there pointlessly unused almost all the time. 1-16 will be to set the midi channel.
Hayden Kiska 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by zestoi ok.... easy on.... with your comments and all the cross posting we'll start assuming you're trolling for vestax kidding... ish as i said just before - thats probably a nice feature when drum programming etc but pretty pointless when using as a dj controller imho. personally i'd rather use a windows app to change the settings so i can see them all on one screen - then be done with it. i presume the vestax comes with some software like too tho? would be dumb not to anyway. it does seem like a nice package tho - will def wait to see how much the price comes down as it seems too high atm - esp as u paid 200$ for one... edit: having the option to change the params on the controller itself is still a nice feature ofc - but i'd prefer to use that rotary encoder to send midi - which i hope/assume is also an option? There's no software/discs in the box for editing fyi, might be able to download it off the internet somewhere maybe. And I just tried, the encoder doesn't seem to send midi signals, but it does show C01 ~ C16, what does mean? Channel 1~16? what does that do?
Chasidy Heckenbach 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by mikeluv There's another cool thing about PAD-One is that it's got "Edit" function "built in", you can change midi(note & Velocity & CC) signals for each pad, anytime, by editing right on the unit itself. Just click on that black tiny little Edit button on the top right, tab any pad you wanna change, roll the encoder to change value and press the Edit button, whola, DONE! That's so intuitive and convenient. ok.... easy on.... with your comments and all the cross posting we'll start assuming you're trolling for vestax kidding... ish as i said just before - thats probably a nice feature when drum programming etc but pretty pointless when using as a dj controller imho. personally i'd rather use a windows app to change the settings so i can see them all on one screen - then be done with it. i presume the vestax comes with some software like too tho? would be dumb not to anyway. it does seem like a nice package tho - will def wait to see how much the price comes down as it seems too high atm - esp as u paid 200$ for one... edit: having the option to change the params on the controller itself is still a nice feature ofc - but i'd prefer to use that rotary encoder to send midi - which i hope/assume is also an option?
Hayden Kiska 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by zestoi ouch not cheap... personally i have really got into using pads to control effects - and only using a rotary for certain types. 8 fx would have to be too many at the same time anyway unless only used every every now and again i guess i do like the velocity sensitivity combined with the aftertouch of the padone tho - that would be bery handy for effects. with some cunning coding (bomes etc) the aftertouch could be very very useful. you could use the note/cc (not sure what the padone sends - and makes no odds really anyway) data that is sent out after the intial noteon (or non zero cc) to control something completely different - until a noteoff or zero val cc/noteon is received etc.... here's another vid explaining CC notes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAXhaoBMpQQ There's another cool thing about PAD-One is that it's got "Edit" function "built in", you can change midi(note & Velocity & CC) signals for each pad, anytime, by editing right on the unit itself. Just click on that black tiny little Edit button on the top right, tab any pad you wanna change, roll the encoder to change value, and then press the Edit button again, whola, DONE! That's so intuitive and convenient.
Chasidy Heckenbach 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by mikeluv @JPY16,800, that's around USD199. I don't like rotary knobs, prefer Faders better, since with Faders I can control upto 8 FXs at the same time(up to 10 FXs if your thumbs r long enough...), not two. With velocity pads controlling effects? umm~~~ Let your imaginations run wild baby! ouch not cheap... personally i have really got into using pads to control effects - and only using a rotary for certain types. 8 fx would have to be too many at the same time anyway unless only used every every now and again i guess i do like the velocity sensitivity combined with the aftertouch of the padone tho - that would be bery handy for effects. with some cunning coding (bomes etc) the aftertouch could be very very useful. you could use the note/cc (not sure what the padone sends - and makes no odds really anyway) data that is sent out after the intial noteon (or non zero cc) to control something completely different - until a noteoff or zero val cc/noteon is received etc....
Hayden Kiska 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by zestoi plus it does look cool... i also like the idea of the rotary for changing xmitted note numbers while drum programming - tho that rotary would almost get in the way for dj'ing once you've got it all mapped etc. i only recently bought an lpd8 and scs.3d so i have enough to experiment with and map atm tho i might be tempted in a few months if the prices comes down a bit. how much did you pay for it? @JPY16,800, that's around USD199. I don't like rotary knobs, prefer Faders better, since with Faders I can control upto 8 FXs at the same time(up to 10 FXs if your thumbs r long enough...), not two. With velocity pads controlling effects? umm~~~ Let your imaginations run wild baby!
Chasidy Heckenbach 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by mikeluv True that it's a little bit pricey, but the money was well spent IMO, for the aluminum casing and solid build quality , it's really built to last and "touch as brick" like Vestax described... and by saying that, I've dropped it a couple times and it still works. plus it does look cool... i also like the idea of the rotary for changing xmitted note numbers while drum programming - tho that rotary would almost get in the way for dj'ing once you've got it all mapped etc. i only recently bought an lpd8 and scs.3d so i have enough to experiment with and map atm tho i might be tempted in a few months if the prices comes down a bit. how much did you pay for it?
Hayden Kiska 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by zestoi sure - i just meant what you described was after touch - not the video. it does look like a very cool device - just not sure it's worth the cash. i presume they've been released now then? just had a look and the website i found still said "forthcoming" and at 107gbp! ouch... thats about 2.5 times the price of a nanopad2.can't compare to the lpd8 i guess as thats so old its also soooo cheap. if it was a bit cheaper i'd be tempted tho - as basically an upgraded nanopad with much better build quality. cheers for the 2nd video link too - hadn't seen that one. the pads do seem good based on your video. wonder how they compare to the lpd8 ones... True that it's a little bit pricey, but the money was well spent IMO, for the aluminum casing and solid build quality , it's really built to last and "touch as brick" like Vestax described... and by saying that, I've dropped it a couple times and it still works.
Chasidy Heckenbach 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by mikeluv the vid isn't demonstrating the velocity sensitive pads, since the pads in that vid were assigned to Audio(wave files), not MIDI nor from effect racks. sure - i just meant what you described was after touch - not the video. it does look like a very cool device - just not sure it's worth the cash. i presume they've been released now then? just had a look and the website i found still said "forthcoming" and at 107gbp! ouch... thats about 2.5 times the price of a nanopad2.can't compare to the lpd8 i guess as thats so old its also soooo cheap. if it was a bit cheaper i'd be tempted tho - as basically an upgraded nanopad with much better build quality. cheers for the 2nd video link too - hadn't seen that one. the pads do seem good based on your video. wonder how they compare to the lpd8 ones...
Hayden Kiska 25.06.2011	the vid isn't demonstrating the velocity sensitive pads, since the pads in that vid were assigned to Audio(wave files), not MIDI nor from effect racks. I can show you how the pads work in other vids if you want. Here's a vid I found on youtube about velocity sensitive pads @1:19 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjJQk2zDb9E
Chasidy Heckenbach 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by mikeluv Yup, I got mine almost a month ago, and I'm loving it! The Pads are velocity sensitive(which are very useful controlling effect values, press the pad lightly will start the effect with low value, but while having my finger on it and keep pushing it down will turn the effect knob up). ah cool.... that's aftertouch you just described - didnt realised it had that....
Hayden Kiska 25.06.2011	Originally Posted by BradCee if it's anything like the prototype I fiddled with at bpm last year, it'll be worth it, just about Yup, I got mine almost a month ago, and I'm loving it! The Pads are velocity sensitive(which are very useful controlling effect values, press the pad lightly will start the effect with low value, but while having my finger on it and keep pushing it down will turn the effect knob up). About sensitivity of the pads, here's my 4 song cue juggle attempt, check it @0:44 , you can see how responsive the pads are. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgzX2l6eJqI
Chasidy Heckenbach 27.05.2011	if the vestax pad one really is as good as i suspect it will be then i might be tempted at some point but dont have enough cash to splash out on one atm and/or am too impatient to wait no one else here who has bought a nanopad2? if not i'm going to just go the safe route and get an lpd8 i reckon... (maybe... )
Vernie Beharry 27.05.2011	if it's anything like the prototype I fiddled with at bpm last year, it'll be worth it, just about I wasn't. . .and I was extremely happy that they made it 4 banks rather than the 2 I saw of the around in pics and vids. edit. . ."I wasn't" meaning i wasn't @ BPM. . .didn't mean anything negative by that
Dorcas Bassignani 27.05.2011	Originally Posted by DjWindzOne The Vestax Pad One is not out yet. . .but fairly fairly pricey for what it is. if it's anything like the prototype I fiddled with at bpm last year, it'll be worth it, just about
Vernie Beharry 27.05.2011	The Vestax Pad One is not out yet. . .but fairly fairly pricey for what it is.
Dorcas Bassignani 27.05.2011	Is pad one out yet?
Chasidy Heckenbach 26.05.2011	the vextax pad one looks awesome - but should be for that price they've mentioned. quality might be way better than the nanopads or lpd8 but for the price i presume you could buy a couple of the others at least...
Lorna Hagerty 26.05.2011	have you guys heard of the vestax pad one??? looks sick, has an xy pad as well
Vernie Beharry 25.05.2011	LOL This you gotta see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...TQ5XUPuM#at=12 Very much agreed. . .and I thought I was excited to see gear delivered! Hmm. . .looking at that vid they may have revamped the XY pad. . .I had such high hopes of that on the 1st gen pads. . . . It's getting interesting for modding. . .hmmm

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