Modding 101

Modding 101
Posted on: 01.09.2009 by Monet Yucel
Alright guys as promised I'm starting this thread which is gonna be a walkthrough of my mod/tutorial page for basic electronics assembly, so stay tuned for the progression.

First I'm going to mod two of theese



into two controllers for traktor to sit between my mixer and decks.

So first off I'm gonna start with a few of my basic tools, these make life a lot easier and they are cheap as I'm a bit of a cheap bastard.

First up my Soldering Iron, Ideally I would like to have a Hakko 936 temp controlled station but I don't have the spare funds, although you kids in the states can usually find deals on them regularly for around $99 usd which is cheap for an iron of this quality. Any way this is my Iron



This Iron cost me about $50 NZD which is about $35 USD, so was cheap, but it has a nice grip, weighs stuff all, has a heat resistant cord (a must for an iron, don't buy one without), as well as interchangeable tips. Now it is only 13 watts which is low but all that means is that it will take longer to reach temp, not that it makes much difference, turn it on and watch some porn or something when its heating up, DON'T try and solder with a cold Iron.

Next is my tip for my Iron



This type of tip is my favourite, it holds it heat because of its size but you can use it for things as small as SMD devices, one common mistake is to use an extremely fine tip to solder with but the don't hold the heat at their tip, use one of these and you will thank me for it.

Next is solder wick use this to remove solder, pumps suck ass wick is inexpensive and works like a charm



And last but not least is solder, I use fine resin cored solder, fine solder is key to me as you never run the risk of adding to much to the join, it also seems to melt a lot quicker as well.

And I almost forgot, the good old Flux Pen oh what a treat to have.



So stay tuned as my next update will be the disassembly of the controller with a few helpfull hints.

Stay tuned kids.
Shay Wyche
04.12.2009
Originally Posted by B.C.Ninja


This Iron cost me about $50 NZD which is about $35 USD, so was cheap, but it has a nice grip, weighs stuff all, has a heat resistant cord (a must for an iron, don't buy one without), as well as interchangeable tips.
I would like to echo this sentiment after giving myself a fairly serious burn on my left hand due to buying a really shitty soldering iron. It was quite heavy and very poorly balanced (I say it was quite heavy etc....because it is now in the bin). It was very awkward to hold, I dropped it carelessly and tried to catch it before it landed on my leg. Ooops, silly me.
Shirlee Depiazza
04.12.2009
Originally Posted by handyface
I hope the project isn't abandoned, I was really looking forward to seeing the end result =)
Don't worry I found USB gamepads (straight xbox controller clones) for $30. I'm seriously considering do this mod.
Shirlee Depiazza
28.11.2009
Originally Posted by Quenepas
Now THATS something Im looking foward to see! Hypothetically they can be used also as touch sensitive since those are made of magnetron sputtering that mix a bunch of metal alloys making them conductive of magnetism as well as electricity... nice!
That's the best bit they don't need to be touch sensitive! They already are!
As you have: Spinning Platter > Laser/Something reading it. Meaning when the platter has it's speed affected i.e touched there's a reaction.
Madge Humrich
01.09.2011
brilliant. another dead thread =[
Ericka Pippens
22.04.2010
B.C. good to have you back. Hope things are getting less hectic. I'm sneaking up on a couple of unsuspecting xbox controllers for this. I want to see where you're going with this.
Arnoldo Enbody
21.04.2010
Hello yall. I am in the middle of building my own custom midi controller using livid instruments builder diy board. Would anybody know where I might be able to find 10k linear push button pots?
Doug Bieling
21.04.2010
Proper nuts !!! I was only just tryin to find this post yesterday but couldnt for the life of me believe what it was called.

Spoooky!!!
Monet Yucel
20.04.2010
Bump, Look whos back, update soon, hopefully next couple of days, sorry to leave you guys hanging, life throws some curveballs every now an again.
Brunilda Kora
13.12.2009
Definitely DON'T let this thread die!!! This could be the start of some awesome, AWESOME custom controllers!
Rebbecca Fennell
13.12.2009
Aw don't let this thread die...
Shay Wyche
04.12.2009
Originally Posted by B.C.Ninja


This Iron cost me about $50 NZD which is about $35 USD, so was cheap, but it has a nice grip, weighs stuff all, has a heat resistant cord (a must for an iron, don't buy one without), as well as interchangeable tips.
I would like to echo this sentiment after giving myself a fairly serious burn on my left hand due to buying a really shitty soldering iron. It was quite heavy and very poorly balanced (I say it was quite heavy etc....because it is now in the bin). It was very awkward to hold, I dropped it carelessly and tried to catch it before it landed on my leg. Ooops, silly me.
Iraida Allegro
04.12.2009
/agree

Good luck, man!
Laraine Arceo
04.12.2009
Dude I hope everything works out with finding your own place, life's a bitch sometimes
Iraida Allegro
04.12.2009
Oh that's great to hear =D I'd also like to do this, I have 3 unused Xbox controllers I'd like to convert to a nice little traktor controller but I lack the knowledge to do so. So I was hoping to learn it here. I guess I'll have to do some research and try it myself.

Good luck with your project, Remote. I am looking forward to your worklog (if you are making one) =D

Handyface.
Shirlee Depiazza
04.12.2009
Originally Posted by handyface
I hope the project isn't abandoned, I was really looking forward to seeing the end result =)
Don't worry I found USB gamepads (straight xbox controller clones) for $30. I'm seriously considering do this mod.
Iraida Allegro
03.12.2009
I hope the project isn't abandoned, I was really looking forward to seeing the end result =)
Shirlee Depiazza
28.11.2009
Originally Posted by Quenepas
Now THATS something Im looking foward to see! Hypothetically they can be used also as touch sensitive since those are made of magnetron sputtering that mix a bunch of metal alloys making them conductive of magnetism as well as electricity... nice!
That's the best bit they don't need to be touch sensitive! They already are!
As you have: Spinning Platter > Laser/Something reading it. Meaning when the platter has it's speed affected i.e touched there's a reaction.
Iraida Allegro
27.11.2009
I still have some old controllers, and a soldering iron. I would love to be able to turn them back to life in the form of DJ gear =D

Keep it up, my friend! You're doing a great job!
Monet Yucel
23.11.2009
Yep gonna finish it, If I get time tomorrow I might raid my mates workshop and do another install, I'm still couch surfing at the moment hence the delay in posts
Domonique Ahuna
23.11.2009
hey bro whats up? you still going to finish this tutorial?
Monet Yucel
09.11.2009
Not long now kids only 2 weeks to go till I move out of my shipping crate and off of my mates couch to my new abode then let the mod fest continue, the break has allowed me to source some more tidbits for the build as well so stay tuned.
Shay Wyche
09.11.2009
Originally Posted by CuttaBoi
+1 Is there a software to convert to midi for Mac. (or have I just started taking my Xbox pad apart for no reason! lol).

Subscribed!
I haven't used this program, but I've heard it mentioned a few times on this community .

http://steim.org/steim/junxion_v4.html
Lorrine Eckstein
09.11.2009
Originally Posted by Paco Loco
Curious to know what software you would use with an xbox controller on a mac - is there something out there to do this?

Hope the house move has gone to plan, looking forward to the next instalment on this thread...

Cheers,
P
+1 Is there a software to convert to midi for Mac. (or have I just started taking my Xbox pad apart for no reason! lol).

Subscribed!
Logan Lassey
09.11.2009
Curious to know what software you would use with an xbox controller on a mac - is there something out there to do this?

Hope the house move has gone to plan, looking forward to the next instalment on this thread...

Cheers,
P
Monet Yucel
26.10.2009
I'm still here guys, theres just been a bit of a moving house incident, my current address is Crate 211 Roslyn Mill Storage so its a bit hard to do any techy stuff out of a shipping crate, I move into my new pad in November so stay tuned and as soon as I'm set up I will finish this thread.
Nicholas Karty
24.10.2009
What happend to this =( ?
Monet Yucel
22.09.2009
Sorry guys still here just a few personal issues in the home life, Women you know how they are, I'll bust out the next post tonite as a bit of workshop R&R will do me well. Stay tuned. I also went out and got a bit bent the other evening at "The Upbeats" so was a wee bit tweaked for any tricky soldering, please forgive me, I'm getting older and I don't seem to be bouncing back the way I used to. Damn you ageing!
Shelby Blancaflor
22.09.2009
+1+!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Doug Bieling
22.09.2009
Originally Posted by B.C.Ninja
I will be posting the next installment on Friday nite

Come baaaaack

Any nooooz?
Matthew Yanagisawa
21.09.2009
Great to see video game controllers used for DJ'ing. Actually make sense. Can be found for cheap, feel familiar, have a bunch of buttons right of your fingertips, USB, extensive literature online about modding... etc etc...


Also,
Originally Posted by B.C.Ninja
I'm also going to mod a couple of old hard drives to use as jog wheels that I can plug into the controllers when I'm not around the decks.
:eek:

Now THATS something Im looking foward to see! Hypothetically they can be used also as touch sensitive since those are made of magnetron sputtering that mix a bunch of metal alloys making them conductive of magnetism as well as electricity... nice!
Brunilda Kora
19.09.2009
Just been out and got a cheap USB controller just for this! Can't wait until the thread is finished and I can get stuck in!
Monet Yucel
16.09.2009
You will have to run the rotary through a small circuit which converts the ABC outputs to switched A&B outputs i posted a few links on another thread about modding a keyboard.
Shelby Blancaflor
16.09.2009
nice idea, but why exactly would you do that by an acoustic signal instead of say an optical one?
At least for the last solution I've seen some optical mouse mods in the community .

I can immagine you could still transform that to a bleep bleep bleep via some small proggy


about the motorization I faintly remember some guys doing that, I believe you might find the project on the midibox community

PS: Do you mean that basically I could take any endless rotary encoder (or the jogs of my TC which I might consider to slaughter) solder it to two digital ins on the Gamepad and use it via bomes and that's it?
Monet Yucel
16.09.2009
The Jogs could be used on either platform, the way the circuit works is it has an output for clockwise and one for anticlockwise, so can be jacked onto anything with two spare digital outputs, while having a wee moment last evening , as I do sometimes, I also came up with another design, using a couple of old hard drives, a micro, and some MacGuyver skills, make motorized platters that emulate turntables with pitch controllers, the platters spin at a desired speed and the micro recognises this and spits out a stereo time code for whatever software you are using, when the speed of the platter is changed via the fader or by touching the platter, the micro then alters the time code output, a bit of a dreamy idea but most likely worth a little discussion between us techies in here.
Shelby Blancaflor
16.09.2009
yesyesyes!!!
btw., how are you going to build these jogwheels you posted about, on a midibox basis or could you possibly do that with one of these cheapo controller pcbs too?
Monet Yucel
15.09.2009
Ok guys sorry about the delay with this work has been pretty manic but hold on tight as I will be posting the next installment on Friday nite, and if I get enough time the post will contain almost all of the rest of the build, stay tuned, also I tried my hand at etching some PCB's the other day using the toner transfer method, so if anyones keen I will probably do a post on that soon as well as I am also building a MidiBox.
Shay Wyche
09.09.2009
I'm watching this too. Looking forward to the next parts of the job.

Good work, Ninja.
Glynis Mangona
09.09.2009
great thread...thanks!
Brunilda Kora
09.09.2009
Wait a minute - you can get ALL of that from ONE joypad?!?

/Patch *******DROOLS******
Monet Yucel
09.09.2009
14 Buttons and 6 knobs

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