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Stanton SCS-4DJ:All-in-One Mediaplayer - 1st pictures

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Stanton SCS-4DJ:All-in-One Mediaplayer - 1st pictures Posted on: 06.04.2011 by Sherrill Conoly http://dj-lab.de/2011/04/stanton-scs...e-mediaplayer/
Sharlene Brownsberger 22.07.2011	Originally Posted by Lordzion I was realy looking forward to this unit until i read the first review on best buy (bla bla bterrible sound an build quality..) . Is there any real/independent review about the SCS4? Skratchworx and Digital DJ Tips are both reviewing right now. You should see something pretty soon. I'm kind of shocked by the Best Buy thing-you have to analyze your songs to get the BPM-dependent goodies like auto-loop and sync'd FX. It looks like he didn't bother analyzing and was pissed that he couldn't do the things we tell him in the manual that he would have to wait for. As for sound quality, it sounds good. I know for a fact that a lot of the Bassdrive.com mix shows were played off the unit recently, and my boy Overfiend just played the Knitting Factory NYC off the unit with no complaints (his typical setup is a Xone 464 with an RME Fireface and Mixvibes Cross).
Cyrus Vandeweert 09.06.2011	Originally Posted by aligned I don't know, sorta seems not worth it to me. It looks really pretty and it's an all-in-one system and everything, but...it looks like it has really, really limited functionality in comparison to a controller+laptop or DVS setup. i know its limited but it still offers more funktions than a simple cdj setup. And i dont use much more funktions than what this thing offers in traktor (loops, a little delay here an there..). i was never since the release of the first eee-pc that excited about a gadget reaease.
Diogo Dj Dragão 10.05.2011	Originally Posted by djproben This already exists via TouchOSC as well as TrakProDJ And a lot of other apps. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about directly supported functionality made by the app creators themselves. See Adobe for an example.
Danae Dumler 09.05.2011	Originally Posted by nem0nic So why not have an auxiliary control surface available in DJ apps? I believe that's definitely something we'll see in the near future. This already exists via TouchOSC as well as TrakProDJ
Danae Dumler 09.05.2011	Originally Posted by MiL0 If NI priced an iOS version of Traktor at a low enough price point, they'd tap into a lot of new customers. They could offer two versions - a Traktor 'Lite' ($9.99 app) for curious would-be potential bedroom djs and a $99-199 upgrade for the more professional users. Umm, you misspelled "$25-40." A $200 ipad app is just going to receive ridicule, even a "professional" one. I'd probably buy it, as would a few on this community , because I know and love Traktor already and I can afford it. But you're not going to bring in a whole new customer base with pricing like that. The reason I don't believe this would happen is because I don't believe NI would be willing to sell their software, at least not in its "full" form, for the kind of prices that would do well on this platform. If they did a Traktor lite they'd probably want to offer it for around $50 with a full version for 200, and nobody would bother with that unless they were already sold on it. I've only had my ipad a few weeks but I can tell you this, the most I've paid for an app is 9.99, and if I do end up buying any that cost more than that I would probably know a lot about it first (for example, considering getting Pages and Numbers since I know them already on os x). Anything too much over that gets a jeer of derision. I'm not sure why -- I've easily paid higher prices for many software packages over the years -- but that's the way it is, and marketing has to deal with actual markets, which means things are worth what people are willing to pay (and not a penny more, which is why so many prices end in .99!)
Emely Metz 07.12.2011	Few months has passes & they comes out with an update & analysing software too. I'm really interested in this...have any of you DJTT members who have actually use or buy this yet? what's it like after the update? the built quality when compared to, let's say a Numark Mixtrack? the sound quality?
Cyrus Vandeweert 22.07.2011	sounds good so far.. I is a shame that we europeans have to wait till August.
Sharlene Brownsberger 22.07.2011	Originally Posted by Lordzion I was realy looking forward to this unit until i read the first review on best buy (bla bla bterrible sound an build quality..) . Is there any real/independent review about the SCS4? Skratchworx and Digital DJ Tips are both reviewing right now. You should see something pretty soon. I'm kind of shocked by the Best Buy thing-you have to analyze your songs to get the BPM-dependent goodies like auto-loop and sync'd FX. It looks like he didn't bother analyzing and was pissed that he couldn't do the things we tell him in the manual that he would have to wait for. As for sound quality, it sounds good. I know for a fact that a lot of the Bassdrive.com mix shows were played off the unit recently, and my boy Overfiend just played the Knitting Factory NYC off the unit with no complaints (his typical setup is a Xone 464 with an RME Fireface and Mixvibes Cross).
Diogo Dj Dragão 21.07.2011	What did I do to deserve that?
Shameka Santoli 20.07.2011	Nem0nic is a god.. just saying..
Cyrus Vandeweert 20.07.2011	I was realy looking forward to this unit until i read the first review on best buy (bla bla bterrible sound an build quality..) . Is there any real/independent review about the SCS4?
Herma Buschelman 01.07.2011	http://vimeo.com/25878691
Herma Buschelman 10.06.2011	more DMc video to come. You guys gotta hear the "slice" FX with DnB. It's wicked! In the meantime, support controllerism and it OK-est by voting for me in the Online DMC..peace http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOFK6pAFja4
Cyrus Vandeweert 09.06.2011	Originally Posted by aligned I don't know, sorta seems not worth it to me. It looks really pretty and it's an all-in-one system and everything, but...it looks like it has really, really limited functionality in comparison to a controller+laptop or DVS setup. i know its limited but it still offers more funktions than a simple cdj setup. And i dont use much more funktions than what this thing offers in traktor (loops, a little delay here an there..). i was never since the release of the first eee-pc that excited about a gadget reaease.
Herma Buschelman 10.06.2011	http://dmcdjonline.com/watch-dj.php?vid=Mjk5
Johnna Sneesby 09.06.2011	I don't know, sorta seems not worth it to me. It looks really pretty and it's an all-in-one system and everything, but...it looks like it has really, really limited functionality in comparison to a controller+laptop or DVS setup.
Diogo Dj Dragão 08.06.2011	I would assume that there is going to be limited availability in europe around the same time as the announced US release. That said, it's probably only going to be at larger retailers like HTFR at first.
Cyrus Vandeweert 08.06.2011	noone?
Cyrus Vandeweert 07.06.2011	FYI: http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/s...share_facebook Anyone know the releasedate in europe?
Cyrus Vandeweert 10.05.2011	an other mayor advantage of the unit is the fact that i dont have to take my laptop to partys. as i dont make any money from djing and dont have a dedicated dj laptop i am always worried about breaking my laptop. An Ipad is no option for me (to expensive, to apple ) an other thing is that traktor is the only thing that keeps me from switching to linux. i wait for the first real reviews but this is definitely on top of my next-gadget-list
Diogo Dj Dragão 10.05.2011	Originally Posted by djproben This already exists via TouchOSC as well as TrakProDJ And a lot of other apps. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about directly supported functionality made by the app creators themselves. See Adobe for an example.
Danae Dumler 09.05.2011	Originally Posted by nem0nic So why not have an auxiliary control surface available in DJ apps? I believe that's definitely something we'll see in the near future. This already exists via TouchOSC as well as TrakProDJ
Danae Dumler 09.05.2011	Originally Posted by MiL0 If NI priced an iOS version of Traktor at a low enough price point, they'd tap into a lot of new customers. They could offer two versions - a Traktor 'Lite' ($9.99 app) for curious would-be potential bedroom djs and a $99-199 upgrade for the more professional users. Umm, you misspelled "$25-40." A $200 ipad app is just going to receive ridicule, even a "professional" one. I'd probably buy it, as would a few on this community , because I know and love Traktor already and I can afford it. But you're not going to bring in a whole new customer base with pricing like that. The reason I don't believe this would happen is because I don't believe NI would be willing to sell their software, at least not in its "full" form, for the kind of prices that would do well on this platform. If they did a Traktor lite they'd probably want to offer it for around $50 with a full version for 200, and nobody would bother with that unless they were already sold on it. I've only had my ipad a few weeks but I can tell you this, the most I've paid for an app is 9.99, and if I do end up buying any that cost more than that I would probably know a lot about it first (for example, considering getting Pages and Numbers since I know them already on os x). Anything too much over that gets a jeer of derision. I'm not sure why -- I've easily paid higher prices for many software packages over the years -- but that's the way it is, and marketing has to deal with actual markets, which means things are worth what people are willing to pay (and not a penny more, which is why so many prices end in .99!)
Diogo Dj Dragão 09.05.2011	I guess the first problem could be partly solved by allowing interconectivity via wireless. More than half the computers used for DJing don't work well with wireless turned on. And going smaller (or thinner) is still a hardware problem, because the placement of the 30 pin connector has to be precise. Any size change screws up that alignment. That said, I don't want it to sound like I'm just poking holes in your idea. In reality, I LOVE the idea of iPad-centric hardware. It's smart for a number of reasons. I'm just letting you know from a developer standpoint what issues might come up when exploring an idea like this. Although I have no way to know for sure, I have to believe that Native have included support for portable computing devices in their overall product roadmap. Everyone else has. It will be interesting to see if and how that manifests itself. The way I saw iPads fitting into this type of controller is to have it be an add-on to the controller rather than the master brain behind the entire operation. From a development standpoint, it's great to have the iPad being the "master brain". That means you can offload processing to the user's hardware instead of needing to include it (and it's associated cost) into the product itself. This is guessing, but I would estimate that if that Stanton SCS.4 was using an iPad and an app for it's brain instead of including it's own processing, storage, and software, it would probably have the same (or better) functionality and be at least $150 cheaper. Part of that savings would be in the direct replacement of hardware components, and the other part would be because of lower cost of development (especially the software). On the flip side of that, I believe the idea of using the iPad as a "remote" for certain aspects of a DJ application is a fantastic idea. You already have this going on with graphics apps - Adobe just announced direct support for iPads and iPhones for just this purpose for example. So why not have an auxiliary control surface available in DJ apps? I believe that's definitely something we'll see in the near future.
Shonda Soulier 09.05.2011	The way I saw iPads fitting into this type of controller is to have it be an add-on to the controller rather than the master brain behind the entire operation. For example, this Stanton device has enough power and processing capabilities to run on its own, but what if there were iPad support so that your music library and maybe some basic browsing, advanced effects or global modifiers were available through the iPad when connected? Another way to believe of it would be to have it serve as a secondary monitor with some added functionalities through the touch interface. It doesn't have to have a perfect form-factor dock either--just something adjustable to hold it in place like many of the third-party boomboxes that supported many sizes and generations of iPods.... as long as the serial port doesn't change, there are no worries.
Arcelia Siebeneck 09.05.2011	hmm I get what you're saying... I guess the first problem could be partly solved by allowing interconectivity via wireless. And I doubt Apple is going to make the iPad any bigger so if they decide to release a smaller version it could still fit in the dock. But yeah, it's a pipedream... I doubt NI would go for it. I believe the best bet is waiting for Windows8 and seeing what NI decide to do about developing for ARM chips.
Diogo Dj Dragão 09.05.2011	...I don't believe it'd be a massive risk for NI... And that was the point of my entire post. Native is the ONLY company that COULD make this product. And even then there's risk. I'll give you an example. When the first iPad was released, it allowed USB devices drawing up to 100mA to be connected via the CCK. Months later when the iOS 4.2 update was released, compatibility was changed and the iPad could only be used with devices drawing 20mA. All of a sudden - with a software update - the iPad is no longer compatible with lots of hardware. Oops. While we're on hardware compatibility, let's also look at the iPad form factor. Let's say a company (like Alesis) makes a dock for the iPad that enables audio and MIDI I/O. Right before release, Apple changes the form factor of the iPad. The newest iPad doesn't fit into the dock, and Alesis needs to go back to re-design the dock, change their factory tooling, and delay release. Also, imagine that a company like Native develops an app like Traktor "iPad edition", and builds their business model on a sales price of $49.99. Later in the year, Apple buys Algoriddim and embeds their DJay app directly into iTunes (or offers it at an extremely reduced price). The DJ software situation for the iPad changes completely, favoring Apple heavily. Risk again. I'm not saying that it's impossible to do what you're suggesting, but it IS risky.
Arcelia Siebeneck 09.05.2011	Hmm well, the iPad is a pretty successful device and seems to offer interoperability between different generations. For example, iPad and iPad2 are essentially the same hardware with minor tweaks to the processor etc. If NI released Traktor for iPad it would almost certainly run very easily on future iPad models (perhaps with some minor tweaks, unless Apple significantly change iOS). The benefit to NI would be that there's a large user-installed base of iPad owners who regularly PAY for software (instead of pc/mac owners who just torrent Traktor). If NI priced an iOS version of Traktor at a low enough price point, they'd tap into a lot of new customers. They could offer two versions - a Traktor 'Lite' ($9.99 app) for curious would-be potential bedroom djs and a $99-199 upgrade for the more professional users. Traktor on iOS devices offers a lot of compelling advantages. It's portable; dj's can practise mixes on the bus/train/plane. It's tied into iTunes - a lot of Traktor dj's use iTunes to organise their collections. If iOS Traktor was able to access the iPod on iOS devices they'd have immediate access to the same music they use on the desktop version of Traktor. And probably most importantly is that it's got a touchscreen - lots of potential for new functions in Traktor. I don't believe it'd be a massive risk for NI... just coding Traktor for an Arm-based processor (something that they may have to do with Windows8 comes out anyway) Anyway. personally I'd settle for just a beatgridding app on my iPhone but I'd love to see the above
Diogo Dj Dragão 08.05.2011	Originally Posted by MiL0 ...Is that too much to ask? It isn't really crazy talk as long as Native was making it. Otherwise you're off your rocker. If Traktor for the iPad already existed, and it was open to having non-NI hardware attached to it, you STILL run into the issue of making a product that's heavily tied to 2 companies either of which could decide to go in another direction and completely destroy support for your hardware. That hard for most companies to justify.
Janyce Henningson 08.05.2011	Originally Posted by MiL0 I personally believe a better concept would be to design an 'all in one' that integrates with an iPad. Except, unlike the idj2, the hardware would be more professional (Pioneer or S4 quality for example). The iPad could sit right in the middle of the controller and be used to run an iOS version of Traktor (which I sincerely hope NI is developing, but I'm not holding my breath!). Is that too much to ask? Really??? iPad :eek: No thanks
Arcelia Siebeneck 08.05.2011	I personally believe a better concept would be to design an 'all in one' that integrates with an iPad. Except, unlike the idj2, the hardware would be more professional (Pioneer or S4 quality for example). The iPad could sit right in the middle of the controller and be used to run an iOS version of Traktor (which I sincerely hope NI is developing, but I'm not holding my breath!). Is that too much to ask?
daniela klein 09.05.2011	All in one solutions are very appealing if the components are high-quality and durable. Even if the SCS-4DJ doesn't win everyone over, at the very least it seems preferable to something like the Hercules as a gateway drug. My hope is that it at least functions as a thrown gauntlet to initiate competition in the all-in-one arena. If I had the functionality of Traktor in the portability of this along with a good GUI, I'd be delighted.
Rolanda Clodfelder 08.05.2011	Idj2 could have been so much more (Idj3 really sucks) had they implemented midi into it as well, the thing has video output FFS!! Kinda makes you wonder though will or could embedded controllers be the way forward, I mean hell, it makes sense, but would take a giant like Pioneer (or maybe NI?) to take things to the next level and make things "club standard".
Diogo Dj Dragão 07.05.2011	didn't numark have something like this with built in software, that tanked a bit... Tanked how? Numark has had a couple of embedded devices, but the one I believe you're referring to is the iDJ2. If that's the device you're referring to, no it didn't "tank". It was a solid seller for a couple years. But let's take a look at perception versus reality, because that's really what you're talking about. It seems that your perception of success in the DJ hardware business is either that (a) high profile artists use it, or (B) it takes over as the predominant model for all future products. Neither of these assumptions are remotely true. Success is measured in sales. Period. And high profile artists comprise about .005% of the overall DJ product buying market. Normal people who embrace DJing as a hobby but don't consider themselves as DJs make up a BIG slice of the market, and there's NOTHING wrong with targeting them with products. In fact, it makes good business sense. There are parallels to this idea in all other music instrument segments. Likewise, there is never going to be a single standard for DJ products. The market is open by nature, especially now that digital DJing has been embraced. Media no longer dictates HOW we interact with the music. If anything, look for products to get MORE diverse, not less.
Dorcas Bassignani 07.05.2011	Originally Posted by nem0nic Oddly, I feel the same way about that VCI-100 that you do about the SCS.4. Looks and feels like a child's toy, it's laid out wrong - especially for any modern 4 deck software, and is nothing especially innovative compared to the products that were on the market before it. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That's why there's more than one DJ product. sometimes i look at my vci and believe it.. i agree thoughh that computer/controller hybrid is the way forward, but this will need time to mature some more. i mean more the software though didn't numark have something like this with built in software, that tanked a bit...? touch screen and such in the middle of the unit
Diogo Dj Dragão 07.05.2011	Oddly, I feel the same way about that VCI-100 that you do about the SCS.4. Looks and feels like a child's toy, it's laid out wrong - especially for any modern 4 deck software, and is nothing especially innovative compared to the products that were on the market before it. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That's why there's more than one DJ product.
Dorcas Bassignani 07.05.2011	Originally Posted by mart21har Actually, screw the twitch, for only 500 euro? This will make the s4 look like a child's toy! really? look at it, looks like something from fisher price, only 2 channels and no exciting features, just samey typical stuff yeah it has the convenience factor, but still looks like a piece of crap... most of the price is for the computer probably anyway...
Diogo Dj Dragão 07.05.2011	loading times for the tacks are also interesting.. anyone got infos? Tracks load pretty much instantly, and you have access to your music ASAP. If the song you load is already analyzed, then you also have the metadata on load. If the song isn't analyzed, there's a 2 part process that takes place. A quick "first pass" happens that gives you an estimated BPM, then a second pass happens that sorts out the beat grid. Both analysis passes happen INTERNALLY on the unit itself - in the background - and you are free to play the track while analysis is taking place. This is one of the major strengths of the SCS.4, it's onboard song analysis. You don't need to analyze all your tracks in a computer before you get access to the cooler functionality in the SCS.4. Analysis happens IN THE UNIT. Of course, at some point (I have no idea when because I'm no longer at Stanton) there will also be an offline analyzer so you can do the work on your computer if you want (especially good for bigger libraries). But when you look at even much more expensive DJ products (CDJ2000 for example), this is really a break-out feature.
Cyrus Vandeweert 06.05.2011	loading times for the tacks are also interesting.. anyone got infos? I agree thet 4 Decks (maybe in form of a mixer function for external sources) would be a nice feature, but im using only 2 decks in traktor anyway. But I just cant wait for the first reviews.
Janyce Henningson 07.05.2011	Originally Posted by photojojo I believe it'll be considerably more than a few years before laptops to be gone. I mean it has to come full circle to the point that we hate on whatever is new because it's not real DJ'ing. That'll take a good 15 years at least. Hmm I don't believe it will be 15 years - but probably more than a few like I said. I still can't believe they made it so cheap considering what's inside - very impressed.

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