NI, Why don't you make this?

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NI, Why don't you make this?
Posted on: 03.01.2012 by Natalia Bucko
http://i.imgur.com/eG6dN.jpg

I would never ask for anything again
Osvaldo Newhall
04.01.2012
Originally Posted by kooper1980
Why?
Because traditional DJs who learn to mix on vinyl turntables and CDJs would want that.
Azucena Minks
04.01.2012
Originally Posted by eataskdotcom


well played sir!
Kristofer Krauel
04.01.2012
Originally Posted by Nicadraus
Except that the pitch controls should be placed at the right side of the controller and not the left.
Why?
Osvaldo Newhall
04.01.2012
Originally Posted by Nicky H
Fixed:

Except that the pitch controls should be placed at the right side of the controller and not the left.
Dorie Scelzo
04.01.2012
Originally Posted by Nicky H
Fixed:

http://www.nickyh.co.uk/eG6dN.jpg
If it were the right price, I'd seriously consider that mixer section.

Originally Posted by Xonetacular
I just wonder what the appeal of using the S4/traktor internal mixer is if you are going to separate the components anyway.
There are good things to be said for internal mixing as long as your rig is simple. Traktor's internal mixer sounds good and has so much headroom that it doesn't really matter what you do as long as the master is set correctly, for one thing. And no matter how worn or dirty the controller gets, it'll still sound better than a similarly mistreated analog mixer. Plus, it'd be possible to use a really lightweight VST/AU host for post-mixer effects, which is more complicated when you're using a hardware mixer. And especially if you're comparing it do a digital mixer, it avoids some needless DAC and ADC stages, which in DJ gear tend to be mediocre.

BTW, don't learn to hear the difference between sound cards. The differences are very small, but they'll drive you insane when you start hearing them.

If it were me, I'd move the master and looper sections over to one side and add a few really basic controls for the master clock, MIDI clock send, internal recording, and "input" metering for internal recording over to one side (don't care which side, though). I'd also ditch the crossfader and offer a rotary option
Hailey Westen
03.01.2012
Originally Posted by Nicky H
Fixed:

i believe something like that would be really good
Natalia Bucko
03.01.2012
Originally Posted by Nicky H
Fixed:

I agree completely.
Loyce Mekonen
03.01.2012
Originally Posted by Nicky H
Fixed:

http://www.nickyh.co.uk/eG6dN.jpg
Fooking this!
Birgit Myrda
19.01.2012		Thank God Behringer read this post before DjTech......
Osvaldo Newhall
04.01.2012
Originally Posted by kooper1980
Why?
Because traditional DJs who learn to mix on vinyl turntables and CDJs would want that.
Azucena Minks
04.01.2012
Originally Posted by eataskdotcom


well played sir!
Johnetta Olewine
04.01.2012		because pretty much every other piece of dj gear that has a pitch control has it on the right hand side?
Kristofer Krauel
04.01.2012
Originally Posted by Nicadraus
Except that the pitch controls should be placed at the right side of the controller and not the left.
Why?
Rochel Gleese
04.01.2012		Mixer without cross fader and longer track volume controls for me, though if it ever happened I doubt that they would make one without a crossfader.

RE the soundcard, I'd be happy with XLR mains out and a headphone jack
Osvaldo Newhall
04.01.2012
Originally Posted by Nicky H
Fixed:

Except that the pitch controls should be placed at the right side of the controller and not the left.
Jacquiline Dua
04.01.2012		The next generation controller will look like this
Dorie Scelzo
04.01.2012
Originally Posted by Nicky H
Fixed:

http://www.nickyh.co.uk/eG6dN.jpg
If it were the right price, I'd seriously consider that mixer section.

Originally Posted by Xonetacular
I just wonder what the appeal of using the S4/traktor internal mixer is if you are going to separate the components anyway.
There are good things to be said for internal mixing as long as your rig is simple. Traktor's internal mixer sounds good and has so much headroom that it doesn't really matter what you do as long as the master is set correctly, for one thing. And no matter how worn or dirty the controller gets, it'll still sound better than a similarly mistreated analog mixer. Plus, it'd be possible to use a really lightweight VST/AU host for post-mixer effects, which is more complicated when you're using a hardware mixer. And especially if you're comparing it do a digital mixer, it avoids some needless DAC and ADC stages, which in DJ gear tend to be mediocre.

BTW, don't learn to hear the difference between sound cards. The differences are very small, but they'll drive you insane when you start hearing them.

If it were me, I'd move the master and looper sections over to one side and add a few really basic controls for the master clock, MIDI clock send, internal recording, and "input" metering for internal recording over to one side (don't care which side, though). I'd also ditch the crossfader and offer a rotary option
Hailey Westen
03.01.2012
Originally Posted by Nicky H
Fixed:

i believe something like that would be really good
Lisa Lochotzki
03.01.2012		would be interesting, especially for those like me who prefer the mixer on one side, the decks on the other.
Johnetta Olewine
03.01.2012		my thoughts exactly. I would possibly be interested in a s4 like individual deck module.
Romelia Stankard
03.01.2012		I just wonder what the appeal of using the S4/traktor internal mixer is if you are going to separate the components anyway.
Natalia Bucko
03.01.2012
Originally Posted by Nicky H
Fixed:

I agree completely.
Johnetta Olewine
03.01.2012		hideous.
Loyce Mekonen
03.01.2012
Originally Posted by Nicky H
Fixed:

http://www.nickyh.co.uk/eG6dN.jpg
Fooking this!
Yanira Eckroat
03.01.2012		ya i cant believe Ni has not made a modular system yet to tailor the set up to the individual needs and for people that cant afford an S4 to buy it in pieces. slowly i wouldnt mind purchasing just the S4 mixer (edit) with sound card
Janyce Henningson
03.01.2012		Fixed:

Cristian Carmona
03.01.2012		4 deck s4? over kill.
Patrica Giancaterino
03.01.2012
Originally Posted by The Pancaker
They should sell it as a modular piece, just like the reloop control... One mixer section (although I agree you could just get a DDM 4000), and separate deck sections. Oh... and allow to chain them using only one usb port as the CDJ's 2000 (maybe 2 or 3 usb's though...)
This is what I was gonna say. I believe a modular S4 type system would pretty successful. It'd knock the sc2000 right off the map.
Romelia Stankard
03.01.2012		I would buy it if they made a version that was just the side unit with the jog wheel, pitch, that could be chained through ethernet, had an additional row of cue point buttons, and had a browse/load encoder. Sound card with 4 outs in each unit that is easily aggregated naively in traktor might be nice too.

The last thing I want would be a midi mixer that had to use traktor's internal mixer though.
Natalia Bucko
03.01.2012
Originally Posted by eataskdotcom


THATS AWESOME.
I don't like the reloops though... Stacked cue point buttons are the worst idea in the world IMO.
Loyce Mekonen
03.01.2012		They should sell it as a modular piece, just like the reloop control... One mixer section (although I agree you could just get a DDM 4000), and separate deck sections. Oh... and allow to chain them using only one usb port as the CDJ's 2000 (maybe 2 or 3 usb's though...)
Jacquiline Dua
03.01.2012		Only one fader?
Mellisa Calenda
03.01.2012

Leeanna Ayla
03.01.2012		Wow, not really sure what to say. I guess for a permanent bedroom install it would be okay, but way to big to be practical.

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