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Xone: K2 Thread Posted on: 30.09.2011 by Romelia Stankard Wow this looks promissing http://www.allen-heath.com/uk/Produc...neK2&SubCatId= So if you link two together with the ethernet cable through USB, will it 'merge' the soundcard so you have a 4 channel soundcard? If it does then you could bring two to a gig, hook them together with ethernet and not need another audio interface and have a 4 channel soundcard. It kind of sucks they put one 1/8" on the front instead of having both outputs in the back. It makes it a little awkward if you wanted to run both outputs to separate channels on the mixer, now you have to run a cable to the front. Also remember you have the option to run each channel in traktor mono so you could use one of them as a 4 channel soundcard with a few adapters (like you would with an audio 2 or 4). Plus a lot of systems are mono anyway. I really like the idea of having one or two of these with a DB2 or DB4 for a home setup then just take them to your gig with a laptop and you have an audio interface to use already in your controller with the house mixer. I love the X1s but I might have to give them up for these, i would love to get my hands on one.
Irwin Ney 01.10.2011	Originally Posted by VanDerWAVY im a bit dim can someone explain to me how this works? where's the cue? where's the play? no crossfader? im confused! It's all I ever want on a controller No play, no cue, no crossfader, no jogwheel, no pitch fader I'm sold for sure!
Irwin Baccei 01.10.2011	Originally Posted by MrPopinjay Cue = Whatever button you want Play = Whatever button you want Crossfader? What do you need that for? This is midi, you can't scratch with it! ta
Chasidy Heckenbach 01.10.2011	Originally Posted by MrPopinjay Cue = Whatever button you want Play = Whatever button you want Crossfader? What do you need that for? This is midi, you can't scratch with it! indeed 4 buttons per channel (if u want to look at it that way) near the bottom that could be used for play/cue/sync or something. then a fader for each channel (which is what i didnt like about the X1). 3 sets of buttons and pots that could be used for kills + eq and buttons spare... plus u have multiple layers and a shift button to add extra layer-ette-s with as mypopinjay says... no real need for a cross fader anyway... or just treat the controls in any which way u want. it's just midi... i love the unlabelled-ness of the whole thing, it can be anything u want it to be (well... within reasons ) edit: way OT but... just noticed in the exif of one of the K2 photos that it was taken with a canon 400d, which is one of the cameras i have. nice being able to combine both of my main geekeries together
Kiyoko Wellisch 01.10.2011	Originally Posted by VanDerWAVY im a bit dim can someone explain to me how this works? where's the cue? where's the play? no crossfader? im confused! Cue = Whatever button you want Play = Whatever button you want Crossfader? What do you need that for? This is midi, you can't scratch with it!
Marquetta Sarnie 01.10.2011	Yesterday I bought Kontrol X1. As soon as I saw this I ran to the store and return it
Irwin Baccei 01.10.2011	im a bit dim can someone explain to me how this works? where's the cue? where's the play? no crossfader? im confused!
Romelia Stankard 01.10.2011	Originally Posted by Ashigari really wish it had 2 sets of RCAs in the back instead of that headphone out in the front . otherwise it looks amazing! Definitely. Or I wish they just had RCAs in the back in addition to an 1/8" in front on that channel. I really wish that it woud merge the soundcards if you connect two through Xlink but somehow I doubt it.
Chasidy Heckenbach 01.10.2011	Originally Posted by DigitalDevil I guess I'm in the minority in preferring the given caps for a small controller. Makes it much easier to adjust multiple faders simultaneously with one hand than standard DJ mixer caps. either way i'm sure that the style of caps isn't a nail in any coffin. i actually quite like them but would still prefer dj-mixer style ones. i'd probably change them to something else just for the sake of having coloured ones or something anyway
May Artman 01.10.2011	I guess I'm in the minority in preferring the given caps for a small controller. Makes it much easier to adjust multiple faders simultaneously with one hand than standard DJ mixer caps.
Irwin Ney 01.10.2011	Originally Posted by zestoi true - looks more like fader caps from a mixdown deck as opposed to a dj one. highly unlikely you wouldn't be able to find different ones to fit. must admit i'd probably want to change those too, but i quite like changing pot covers etc on my mixers. seems to be one area that's often skimped on - and simple enough to fix yourself. i changed the pot covers on my lpd8+idj+djm101+hercmk2. fader caps tend to be much simpler to change. I would put another caps too, for sure... Mixer caps looks more professional then these...
Ella Rick 01.10.2011	Can't wait to see this in action, A&H are the dogs...
Kandra Fagler 01.10.2011	this would be a great backup controller for emergencies and also for some awome fun in the airplane for long flights! Just the macbook pro, this and a headphone = instant airplance 4 deck mixing fun
Yajaira Hibbitts 01.10.2011	Originally Posted by zestoi i guess they had to make an assessment of what is most likely to be the best for most users... for me i want the headphone socket anyway in the scheme of things tho it's hard to fault much really with it... i can't find anything yet. comes in at 1kg and 400g for the case which is cool and means the case must be reasonably sturdy. i do like small/light/compact/modular controllers. all sounds like a win to me... +1
Chasidy Heckenbach 01.10.2011	Originally Posted by Ashigari really wish it had 2 sets of RCAs in the back instead of that headphone out in the front . otherwise it looks amazing! i guess they had to make an assessment of what is most likely to be the best for most users... for me i want the headphone socket anyway in the scheme of things tho it's hard to fault much really with it... i can't find anything yet. comes in at 1kg and 400g for the case which is cool and means the case must be reasonably sturdy. i do like small/light/compact/modular controllers. all sounds like a win to me...
Yajaira Hibbitts 01.10.2011	Originally Posted by zestoi not sure as to the "why" i guess... at this price i can't see them bothering to release a version without it tho and at this price who care's if u don't use it i guess? it does open up a much bigger market having a builtin soundcard probably and means it can be used as an add on to a more analogue setup. i'm not complaining anyway as i've been believeing about buying a decent soundcard for a while now... i doubt it's half bad if coming from them. true that i would trust a soundcard coming from allen and heith anytime heee. i mean it's a plus point i guess just take it as a audi2 dj with midi controls heh
Patty Mcgilbra 01.10.2011	really wish it had 2 sets of RCAs in the back instead of that headphone out in the front . otherwise it looks amazing!
Chasidy Heckenbach 01.10.2011	Originally Posted by Pollux#13 the built in soundcard is a plus point for the k2 if you're looking to bring the most basic set-up for abletoon and such. but then again im still wondering why there is a built in soundcard for the k2? not sure as to the "why" i guess... at this price i can't see them bothering to release a version without it tho and at this price who care's if u don't use it i guess? it does open up a much bigger market having a builtin soundcard probably and means it can be used as an add on to a more analogue setup. i'm not complaining anyway as i've been believeing about buying a decent soundcard for a while now... i doubt it's half bad if coming from them.
Lisa Lochotzki 01.10.2011	Pretty sick controller, will get some for sure. find the 1/8 jack is a really toyish and poor choice though ....
Yajaira Hibbitts 01.10.2011	Originally Posted by zestoi about 160quid and then the case is about another 35quid. thats the prices i've been seeing on ebay for new items anyway. so this K2 is basically the same AND has builtin sound! win! i suspect they will sell a few of these, i definately want one. had been believeing of picking up a X1 but soooo glad i didn't, esp as i need a soundcard and didnt need another tp2 license the built in soundcard is a plus point for the k2 if you're looking to bring the most basic set-up for abletoon and such. but then again im still wondering why there is a built in soundcard for the k2?
Yajaira Hibbitts 01.10.2011	Originally Posted by NathanWard Reckon the fader caps will be easily swapped? And does anyone know anywhere to get decent ones? I'm not liking that style too much, I prefer standard mixer style caps. xone fader caps can be easily swapped. even for the db4 mixer fader caps and knobs can easily removed and replaced. provided you find something of the same size which can be fitted like the stock fader caps and knobs
Yajaira Hibbitts 01.10.2011	Originally Posted by zestoi i don't suppose official mapping will matter too much for something like this. everyone will want it mapped differently. and with so many people psyched about the form factor and price point there should be stacks of people coming up with mappings. oddles of potential for sure, esp with the obvious (i hope) builtin layers. they have actually been doing their research on what people actually want - makes a nice change i guess the k2 would be an open source controller in midi mode and as far as the x link goes it serves to control effects on the db4 and db2
Chasidy Heckenbach 01.10.2011	Originally Posted by NathanWard Reckon the fader caps will be easily swapped? And does anyone know anywhere to get decent ones? I'm not liking that style too much, I prefer standard mixer style caps. true - looks more like fader caps from a mixdown deck as opposed to a dj one. highly unlikely you wouldn't be able to find different ones to fit. must admit i'd probably want to change those too, but i quite like changing pot covers etc on my mixers. seems to be one area that's often skimped on - and simple enough to fix yourself. i changed the pot covers on my lpd8+idj+djm101+hercmk2. fader caps tend to be much simpler to change.
France Evoniuk 01.10.2011	Reckon the fader caps will be easily swapped? And does anyone know anywhere to get decent ones? I'm not liking that style too much, I prefer standard mixer style caps.
Chasidy Heckenbach 01.10.2011	Originally Posted by NathanWard I wonder what the official mappings will be like, and whether DJTT (Ean) will make a custom mapping. Considering there isn't much marking on the controls, only the letters on the bottom pads, there is huge potential for some crazy 4 deck madness! It sounds like the "layers" are hardware modifiers like the hotcue or shift button on the X1, so these, combined with shift and other modifiers there is massive potential. i don't suppose official mapping will matter too much for something like this. everyone will want it mapped differently. and with so many people psyched about the form factor and price point there should be stacks of people coming up with mappings. oddles of potential for sure, esp with the obvious (i hope) builtin layers. they have actually been doing their research on what people actually want - makes a nice change
France Evoniuk 01.10.2011	I wonder what the official mappings will be like, and whether DJTT (Ean) will make a custom mapping. Considering there isn't much marking on the controls, only the letters on the bottom pads, there is huge potential for some crazy 4 deck madness! It sounds like the "layers" are hardware modifiers like the hotcue or shift button on the X1, so these, combined with shift and other modifiers there is massive potential.
Chasidy Heckenbach 01.10.2011	Originally Posted by padi_04 For how much does an x1 go these days on the UK? just to get a local price speculation. about 160quid and then the case is about another 35quid. thats the prices i've been seeing on ebay for new items anyway. so this K2 is basically the same AND has builtin sound! win! i suspect they will sell a few of these, i definately want one. had been believeing of picking up a X1 but soooo glad i didn't, esp as i need a soundcard and didnt need another tp2 license
Irwin Ney 30.09.2011	Originally Posted by Pollux#13 what's the point of paying so much for a x-y pad cos theres a xone brand name on a controller. when there's dope ipad apps around to do different jobs for traktor and more within a single ipad unit. the novelty is all there. +1
Yajaira Hibbitts 30.09.2011	Originally Posted by Xonetacular The durability, having one integrated controller system all hard wired through xlink without having to tether or set up an ad hoc network and do midi over network. I have no problem using touchosc like I do now, but if there was a hardware controller in this system that I could just plug in and have the durability and form factor of a xone controller some people would prefer it. but then again i thought you said in a different thread that having cables and stuff is a fuss and another hardware or even with the x link is still a 'hassle' to bring. just my two cents worth of thoughts
Romelia Stankard 30.09.2011	Originally Posted by Pollux#13 what's the point of paying so much for a x-y pad cos theres a xone brand name on a controller. when there's dope ipad apps around to do different jobs for traktor and more within a single ipad unit. the novelty is all there. The durability, having one integrated controller system all hard wired through xlink without having to tether or set up an ad hoc network and do midi over network. I have no problem using touchosc like I do now, but if there was a hardware controller in this system that I could just plug in and have the durability and form factor of a xone controller some people would prefer it.
France Evoniuk 30.09.2011	Originally Posted by guiltyblade i just bought an x1 too. Lol. But well this looks too good. I may sell the x1 later if this turns out dope! This to me is the perfect little set up for quick gigs. I mean mapped right and all you need is that thing to play. I wonder if they will release mapping for it with traktor and serato? It would be interesting to see how they intend people to possibly use it. I forsee mapping thread coming out for this soon! I just got an X1 too. I'll probably use just this and the X1. K2 mapped as a 4/2deck mixer with midifighter style effects, and X1 as a normal effects controller.
Yajaira Hibbitts 30.09.2011	Originally Posted by Xonetacular Konkreet performer is a cool idea but the novelty wears off and I haven't found much real use for it with the maps and ideas I've tried. what's the point of paying so much for a x-y pad cos theres a xone brand name on a controller. when there's dope ipad apps around to do different jobs for traktor and more within a single ipad unit. the novelty is all there.
Alla Bluemke 30.09.2011	i just bought an x1 too. Lol. But well this looks too good. I may sell the x1 later if this turns out dope! This to me is the perfect little set up for quick gigs. I mean mapped right and all you need is that thing to play. I wonder if they will release mapping for it with traktor and serato? It would be interesting to see how they intend people to possibly use it. I forsee mapping thread coming out for this soon!
France Evoniuk 30.09.2011	So excited! Looks like it will cost slightly more than the X1 does now, with so much more possibilities.
Latoria Kavulich 30.09.2011	Originally Posted by padi_04 I'll wait for a model without a soundcard to replace my X1 +1 ... those faders look sweet though
Brook Hoschouer 30.09.2011	Ahhh, this might be exactly what I want. And I have just purchased a Faderfox DJ3 unit...
Celine Surico 30.09.2011	Very nice solution as a small portable Traktor kit, indeed. Four tracks is really all that is needed and I could live without a crossfader. Sounds like the street price will be very good, too.
Pearly Revely 30.09.2011	Originally Posted by DigitalDevil I REALLY doubt anyone using this as an all in one would be using 24/96 files... Well, there's me. So that's one. Hell, I've got 32/192 files too, but we have to crawl before we can walk, I suppose. Anyway, I'd absolutely prefer this multitasker to carrying around my laptop, the K2, some combination of my Maschine, monome, and Launchpad, plus yet another audio interface. And this combo device makes it less likely that I'll need to add a USB hub to the mix as well. (Yes, I know Maschine downsamples everything anyway. Don't remind me.)
Romelia Stankard 30.09.2011	Originally Posted by V-Hoff I agree Xone, but I would not exchange my iPAD with a simple XY pad with no feedback or multi touch on it. Even more after this mapping/concept: Konkreete Performer: Control 6 FX with 4 fingers! http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=37764 Konkreet performer is a cool idea but the novelty wears off and I haven't found much real use for it with the maps and ideas I've tried.
Nedra Fresneda 30.09.2011	Originally Posted by NathanWard Do want. Very much. I'll hold off from buying the mixer and soundcard I wanted and just get this! Do we have a release date? early 2012
France Evoniuk 30.09.2011	Do want. Very much. I'll hold off from buying the mixer and soundcard I wanted and just get this! Do we have a release date?

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