What do u guys think of dubstep?

What do u guys think of dubstep?
Posted on: 24.07.2012 by Dorothy Glove
Not starting a war here, just intrested in knowing wat u guys believe of dubstep, and what r some of ur favourite tracks?
Celine Surico
25.07.2012
Originally Posted by BFLY
Dubstep as it is known today is for Americans/Teenagers/People with no taste
Don't judge dubstep based on the current commercial US based producers -- look for UK for inspiration.
Lawana Spratlen
25.07.2012
Dubstep as it is known today is for Americans/Teenagers/People with no taste
Salvatore Husley
26.07.2012
Ed has a bigger heart than I do. I enjoy dubstep very much but not the brostep side. Dubstep definitely has it's own feet to stand on. It has a great history and large catalogue of classic tunes. If you heard it played all evening on a great sound system where you can feel the sub then you are going to experience it like you never have before. But if you're not into it then fair play. Just don't be taking a shit on it because you don't like. Because I can guarantee I could take a shit on your favorite genre.

I love the percussion on a lot of the old tracks.


Love the dark garage years.


Even love the experimental tracks.


It just seems like a niche thing nowadays . A lot more people are into brostep. It just drives me nuts when people degrade dubstep saying it's not a genre or bullshit like that.
Matt Kane
25.07.2012
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Brenna Welbes
25.07.2012
Originally Posted by AryanH
...and what r some of ur favourite tracks?
Liquid Stranger - 2010 album is hands down, some the most bad-ass shiz I have EVER heard.
Evelyn Navarijo
25.07.2012
I love Dubstep, and I really don't understand people who claim "it's not a genre", or that "it shouldn't be exclusive in a set". There's a fairly big Dubstep scene out there, throwing evening s playing nothing but Dubstep, and have done so since 2005. To claim "it doesn't work" seems silly, obviously it does.
Freida Leash
25.07.2012
I like dubstep, it really captured my ear a couple of years ago, turned me on to grime which I missed out on because I didn't like UK Garage that it seemed to rise from the ashes. I mostly play Drum and Bass and downtempo, there is a sweet spot for dubstep to live in that space too, especially the more ethereal tunes. Sometimes I get a wild hair and play an hour or so of just dubstep. Mostly my ears can't take it that long, and my library isn't deep enough to put together a great set, after all I shop for other stuff first. There are people that I enjoy hearing them play an extended set of it, but like a great Happy Hardcore DJ it is probably because I enjoy what that DJ is doing with the tracks more than I like the songs, even when I dig what they are playing.
Nedra Fresneda
25.07.2012
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Bunny Sockel
25.07.2012
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25.07.2012
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25.07.2012
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Dorie Scelzo
25.07.2012
While I usually don't weigh in on these threads, I felt like it toevening because I feel like shit and can't sleep. And believeing about music calms me.

My honest opinion of dubstep is that it's incredibly formulaic music based on a really interesting groove that is awesome in the right context.

The "problem" with dubstep is that the context it works in just isn't a genre. It just isn't. Either there's not enough to go on or there aren't enough good musicians
Celine Surico
25.07.2012
I like dubstep, but it's the next gen one, post-step, things from UK, dreamstep -- XLR8R is an excellent resource, Mary Ann Dobb's podcasts, too. The generic dubstep has become somewhat stagnated with the same middle section wobbly productions, it was fun in the beginning but that style is wearing thin.
Dorothy Glove
24.07.2012
Well.....it looks like i have made a mistake making this thread....lets all just go back to listening wat we like to listen to, whether its dubstep, trance, lounge, or the sound of the homeless guy humming for money.
Darren Teboe
24.07.2012
Originally Posted by MyUsername


That was rather personal... Instead of on topic.

I could be real butthurt, I could defend myself and argue. But no I'm going to shut down my laptop and take my drunken ass and go to sleep.

Not because I don't have a comeback. But because your post also made me tired of discussion.
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Noriko Lebowitz
24.07.2012
Originally Posted by MyUsername


That was rather personal... Instead of on topic.

I could be real butthurt, I could defend myself and argue. But no I'm going to shut down my laptop and take my drunken ass and go to sleep.

Not because I don't have a comeback. But because your post also made me tired of discussion.
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Eloy Kiepke
24.07.2012
Originally Posted by MyUsername
That was rather personal... Instead of on topic.

I could be real butthurt, I could defend myself and argue. But no I'm going to shut down my laptop and take my drunken ass and go to sleep.

Not because I don't have a comeback. But because your post also made me tired of discussion.
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Nereida Jasnoch
24.07.2012
Originally Posted by Saurus
Most of the kids who haven't been playing long got INTO the scene because of dubstep and electrohouse in the first place, whether they want to admit it to themselves or not. They tend to defend it without as much musical knowledge to back it up, largely claiming the "everyone likes what they like, if you don't like it, leave the room" argument. They also tend to spout stuff about older dubstep like Benga and Skream being more legitimate. They also, pretty often link to youtube videos and say "look at this example of not terrible recent dubstep", despite personally playing the worst dubstep ever the rest of the time.


That was rather personal... Instead of on topic.

I could be real butthurt, I could defend myself and argue. But no I'm going to shut down my laptop and take my drunken ass and go to sleep.

Not because I don't have a comeback. But because your post also made me tired of discussion.
Eloy Kiepke
24.07.2012
Ughhh so here we go again.... This is how this conversation ALWAYS GOES:

Most of the seasoned DJs believe dubstep can be used in a set, but should never be played as a genre. Some of them usually pick it apart and explain why in musical terms, some of them are just not very good at discussing it, and spout stupid shit. The seasoned DJs seem to be about half-and-half about older dubstep. Half believe the older stuff is just too slow and boring, and half have perfect respect for it. A lot of older DJs actually play that stuff for some reason.

Most of the kids who haven't been playing long got INTO the scene because of dubstep and electrohouse in the first place, whether they want to admit it to themselves or not. They tend to defend it without as much musical knowledge to back it up, largely claiming the "everyone likes what they like, if you don't like it, leave the room" argument. They also tend to spout stuff about older dubstep like Benga and Skream being more legitimate. They also, pretty often link to youtube videos and say "look at this example of not terrible recent dubstep", despite personally playing the worst dubstep ever the rest of the time.


And that's how this always goes.

If you care about where this viewpoint comes from, I used to be on the side of the younger crowd who believe dubstep is good in an EDM context. I used to take part in a lot of these arguments on the ignorant kid side, before I hit that *click* moment of understanding how EDM works, and why dubstep is NOT set up to be banger music. I started playing at events about six months before dubstep started to blow up in america. Played stuff like Rusko, Caspa, Skream and Bassnectar's dubstep. Then dubstep started to blow up, I played the new stuff as it came out, like Flux Pavillion, Dodge & Fuski, Calvertron etc. Then I started to get out of dubstep about a year later, as the "filth" shit like Boregore caught on. Then I more or less completely dropped it as the filth shit died away and it became the horrible distorted robot noises we know today.

I payed attention to the shit that was said by people who know music better than I do, and listened to the stuff they told me I'd like better. Now I play Drum n Bass and Glitch Hop mainly, and some of the dancier house genres. Yes I still like the dubstep I used to play when it was super bouncy and melodic, but I've realized even that's still not good for the events I play at, because it's too slow and not-conducive to all-evening partying. I now very occasionally will do an dubstep drop using like an older flux pavillion or calvertron track or something, then transition out after one verse, but that's about it. I end up doing it maybe once out in every two or three sets. I constantly complain about kids my age spinning hour sets of dubstep, be it older stuff they believe they'll get cred for, or new banger stuff that I believe is about the worst EDM ever made.

I now attempt all the time to explain to dubstep kids my age that I went through the same phase, and try to help them get out of it faster than I did.
Nereida Jasnoch
24.07.2012
Originally Posted by 16b441khz
Its a style of music that i only like to hear in small doses. Played at the right time and it can have a massive effect on the energy during a set but i dont want to hear more than 3 or 4 songs usually because the 2 step tempo is actually more fatiguing to dance to. Favourite tacks, none really, it all seems to be disposable to me. I don't listen to it often but i havent heard or come across anyone with a diffinitive dubstep 'timeless' track that everyone knows will always listen to in the future. There are some old school house records that still hold their own today, i can't see dubstep achieving that at the moment.

2c
If you are right my life is a lie! Is dubstep 2 step ??? I thought dnb was 2 step.

And effect of energy during a set ?
Some of my friends never let me put on some music because they believe my music is too chill or just plain boring.

And I shall be one of the first in this tread to try and come up with a timeless dubstep tune.

A classic in the genre itself, regards from dubstep OG skream:


And the track that made the made the mainstream media such as radio notice the genre:
The percussion only comes blasting in halfway in the song btw.


EDIT: Don't you dare listen to this with laptop speakers, if you want to experience these fine pieces of music as they were intended to you HAVE TO listen to this with studio monitors or a big fat sub with some speakers or headphones that can reach 20Hz.
Nereida Jasnoch
24.07.2012
Originally Posted by AryanH
Wat about old school dunstep tracks? Like benga, skream, and some of ruskos old tracks? Wat dubstep is not ur genre, wat would u say is ur prefered genre?
Dorothy Glove
24.07.2012
Originally Posted by MYE
And also the sound of dubstep has become so generic that all the big dubstep artists sound the same there is no creativity anymore in dubstep.
That is unfortunately true in some cases, but if u look around and actually listen around u will find that there are tracks out there that r unique and dark. For example, there is a youtube channel called GetDarker, u may have heard of that record label (http://www.youtube.com/user/getdarker/videos) and they have 1-5 hour dark, underground mixes that r really good
Bunny Sockel
24.07.2012
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Rolanda Clodfelder
24.07.2012


Had to be done ..

I prefer house, progressive house, techno, trance and even j-pop over this new fangled stuff, but you asked for an opinion :P
Bunny Sockel
24.07.2012
And also the sound of dubstep has become so generic that all the big dubstep artists sound the same there is no creativity anymore in dubstep.
Bunny Sockel
24.07.2012
Originally Posted by AryanH
That is an issue, but y should thay effect the way we listen to music? As one of the previous comments stated.."i cant stand all the little idiots that listen to it"... i mean is that really a valid reason not to like a certain type of music? Just because there are kids out there thay cant explore more then the beatport top 10 shouldnt ruin a genre
the reason i said that aryanh is because like i said in my previous post some kids cannot distinguish the difference between dubstep, electro house, house, techno. So yes they are idiots for believeing that dubstep is every genre in dance music
Dorothy Glove
24.07.2012
Originally Posted by rotebass
The issue is that the average punter doesn't know who any of those guys are. They believe that all dubstep is just wrarrrbbb-woop-woop-srabbbabb-wrammmmmmm etc etc...
That is an issue, but y should thay effect the way we listen to music? As one of the previous comments stated.."i cant stand all the little idiots that listen to it"... i mean is that really a valid reason not to like a certain type of music? Just because there are kids out there thay cant explore more then the beatport top 10 shouldnt ruin a genre
Bunny Sockel
24.07.2012
The problem is most kids classify all dance music as dubstep. And don't know the difference between different genres of dance music.
Darren Teboe
24.07.2012
I've never caught a thread like this, so all of the whining in posts before me can go cry somewhere else. Besides... you either like talking about it, or you crave the attention that posting gives you to cradle your fragile ego and it helps make you feel important. If you didn't, you'd just move along without acknowledging the thread if it really bothered you or you didn't care. Now that I'm finished calling you guys on your whiny BS...

16b441khz pretty much summed up how I feel. It's an amazing seasoning to harder/edgier 4x4 sets when peppered in here and there. On it's own? To me it has the same problem that hindered Drum and Bass from more commercial success, but even worse. It relies heavily on the same sounds to make the majority of it's music. Heavy distorted bass, wobbles, and high pitched synth. I like it by itself, but most of it really uses the same thing just in different melodies and patterns.
Lela Umanskaya
24.07.2012
Originally Posted by AryanH
Wat about old school dunstep tracks? Like benga, skream, and some of ruskos old tracks?
The issue is that the average punter doesn't know who any of those guys are. They believe that all dubstep is just wrarrrbbb-woop-woop-srabbbabb-wrammmmmmm etc etc...
Celine Surico
24.07.2012
Bunny Sockel
24.07.2012
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Bunny Sockel
24.07.2012
I hate it and can't stand all the little idiots at my school who listen to it.
Dorothy Glove
24.07.2012
Wat about old school dunstep tracks? Like benga, skream, and some of ruskos old tracks? Wat dubstep is not ur genre, wat would u say is ur prefered genre?
Eloy Kiepke
24.07.2012
Most of it's terrible, it can be used occasionally, it should never be played as a normal genre blah blah blah so on and so forth. Please delete this tired thread.
Alyse Plantenga
24.07.2012
Its a style of music that i only like to hear in small doses. Played at the right time and it can have a massive effect on the energy during a set but i dont want to hear more than 3 or 4 songs usually because the 2 step tempo is actually more fatiguing to dance to. Favourite tacks, none really, it all seems to be disposable to me. I don't listen to it often but i havent heard or come across anyone with a diffinitive dubstep 'timeless' track that everyone knows will always listen to in the future. There are some old school house records that still hold their own today, i can't see dubstep achieving that at the moment.

2c
Lela Umanskaya
24.07.2012
Too lazy to google that deadhorse gif...

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