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Planning on moving from the USA to somewhere in the Europe area, ideas?
Posted on: 04.10.2012 by Glennis Bischoff
basically, i want to get out of the states, no reason really other than i want to live somewhere new.

any ideas?

i want to know a few things about your responses:
WHERE?
WHY?
HAVE YOU BEEN THERE?
Nikole Resende
29.10.2012
Originally Posted by Jayvee
Holland
Why? Because it's an awesome country, and Dance and Trance were pretty much born here!
Also because it's the most influential DJ country in the world. Oh, and legal weed.
???????

Ok, I believe there's no argueing about the legal weed thing, but everything else...

Dance and Trance born in Holland? Most influential DJ country in the world?

You really need to smoke less of that legal weed, man!
Tesha Freudenstein
25.10.2012
Originally Posted by 3heads
This should not be an issue when aiming at a PhD, though. Unlike in the US (for example), a PhD in Germany usually does not require to do coursework, but rather consists of writing the thesis and not much else. One does not have to be enrolled as a student to do a PhD, so I highly doubt that one would have to pay tuition - even in the states that charge for tuition.
just did a little reading and it looks like the same rules apply as for students that live in states without tuiton fees: it's "free" as long as you don't exceed the standard time of 6 semesters.

http://www.research-in-germany.de/in...-your-phd.html
Celestine Porebski
23.10.2012
Originally Posted by Era 7
also a factor to consider is state legislation because some states don't have university fees while some have.
This should not be an issue when aiming at a PhD, though. Unlike in the US (for example), a PhD in Germany usually does not require to do coursework, but rather consists of writing the thesis and not much else. One does not have to be enrolled as a student to do a PhD, so I highly doubt that one would have to pay tuition - even in the states that charge for tuition.
Danae Dumler
23.10.2012
Originally Posted by Grifff
What are the universities like in Germany, anyone? I want to do a PhD next year and am pretty open to suggestions of other unis. Plus I'd love to live in Berlin for the techno
German higher education has been world renown for centuries -- in some ways it's the model other systems have followed. As Era 7 points out it really depends what you want and you need to look at specific programs, but you probably can't go wrong with a Ph.D. from a German university.
Tesha Freudenstein
23.10.2012
Originally Posted by Grifff
What are the universities like in Germany, anyone? I want to do a PhD next year and am pretty open to suggestions of other unis. Plus I'd love to live in Berlin for the techno
pretty much comes down to the field you want to study in because there are certain "go-to" cities for certain fields. like for example somebody who wants to study law should have an eye out for g
Tesha Freudenstein
22.10.2012
Originally Posted by Bassline Brine
My biggest question has always been...

How does one get a job moving to a different country if they don't have a particularly useful degree? lol.

I've thought a lot about this myself, and planning on visiting the UK and maybe a couple other spots to check them out. Have ALWAYS wanted to move there, even if it's just a few years, but maybe even a lifetime.

But my issue is... unless you're working for a specific company, how does one get a decent job? Is there some secret that I've just overlooked?

... I have a degree in Criminal Justice here in the USA, and don't believe it's really applicable for overseas. Not that I really want anything to do with CJ anymore (I work in tech support for Bose now), but it's always been that "hill" that I've not been able to figure out.
i can only speak for germany and say without at least a college degree it is really hard getting a job. anything below that isn't really recognized so unless you're lucky you are looking at the low end jobs.
Tessie Spice
18.10.2012
Originally Posted by itsbentheboy
i've always been fascinated with countries like Sweden, Switzerland, or Norway.
Hey! I was born in England, grew up in Switzerland and am currently spending a year living in Norway.

Both the Swiss and the Norwegians are quite unique and come across rather cold, but once you get to know them they're really cool people to be around. If you only speak English, you'll find it a little bit easier to get along in Norway, as the general level of English is much higher than in Switzerland.

Both countries are expensive compared to the states. Norway is especially expensive (read: ridiculous) when it comes to Tobacco and Alcohol. From what I've understood, it's easier to become a citizen and/or gain a working permit than in Switzerland. That obviously doesn't mean it can't be done in both countries though.

I'm also not sure what sort of work you do, but if you're a white collar office slave, Switzerland is where you're likely to earn more money (especially as an expatriate). The difference in salaries when comparing people with different positions at any given company will be a LOT bigger than in Norway.

Those are the main things that come to mind off the bat. If you have any more questions just reply or PM me.

Another thing that comes to mind is that if you only speak English, it will be easy to settle in a village in central Switzerland (lots of international/English-speaking communities and families). In Norway, it will probably be a lot easier to settle in one of the big cities.
Tesha Freudenstein
18.10.2012
Originally Posted by anteater32
I live not far from Edinburgh and commute in for work, its a great town just be prepared to live with perpetual rain and greyness for most of the year....... but when the sun finally does comes out its a brilliant part of the world
yeah. edinburgh is pretty nice from what i've seen the short time i was there. had lots of rain but the places around cowgate and grassmarket are pretty fun

Originally Posted by Ed Paris
germany! nothing else to say.
fucking ay!
Random X
30.10.2012
We do have 5 most popular DJs in the DJ Mag compo.
Nikole Resende
29.10.2012
Originally Posted by Jayvee
Holland
Why? Because it's an awesome country, and Dance and Trance were pretty much born here!
Also because it's the most influential DJ country in the world. Oh, and legal weed.
???????

Ok, I believe there's no argueing about the legal weed thing, but everything else...

Dance and Trance born in Holland? Most influential DJ country in the world?

You really need to smoke less of that legal weed, man!
Alease Fitch
28.10.2012
Holland
Why? Because it's an awesome country, and Dance and Trance were pretty much born here!
Also because it's the most influential DJ country in the world. Oh, and legal weed.
Tesha Freudenstein
25.10.2012
Originally Posted by 3heads
This should not be an issue when aiming at a PhD, though. Unlike in the US (for example), a PhD in Germany usually does not require to do coursework, but rather consists of writing the thesis and not much else. One does not have to be enrolled as a student to do a PhD, so I highly doubt that one would have to pay tuition - even in the states that charge for tuition.
just did a little reading and it looks like the same rules apply as for students that live in states without tuiton fees: it's "free" as long as you don't exceed the standard time of 6 semesters.

http://www.research-in-germany.de/in...-your-phd.html
Celestine Porebski
23.10.2012
Originally Posted by Era 7
also a factor to consider is state legislation because some states don't have university fees while some have.
This should not be an issue when aiming at a PhD, though. Unlike in the US (for example), a PhD in Germany usually does not require to do coursework, but rather consists of writing the thesis and not much else. One does not have to be enrolled as a student to do a PhD, so I highly doubt that one would have to pay tuition - even in the states that charge for tuition.
Danae Dumler
23.10.2012
Originally Posted by Grifff
What are the universities like in Germany, anyone? I want to do a PhD next year and am pretty open to suggestions of other unis. Plus I'd love to live in Berlin for the techno
German higher education has been world renown for centuries -- in some ways it's the model other systems have followed. As Era 7 points out it really depends what you want and you need to look at specific programs, but you probably can't go wrong with a Ph.D. from a German university.
Tesha Freudenstein
23.10.2012
Originally Posted by Grifff
What are the universities like in Germany, anyone? I want to do a PhD next year and am pretty open to suggestions of other unis. Plus I'd love to live in Berlin for the techno
pretty much comes down to the field you want to study in because there are certain "go-to" cities for certain fields. like for example somebody who wants to study law should have an eye out for g
Celine Surico
22.10.2012
Computer experts, nurses, professionals with extremely narrow skilled areas that are in demand, college professors. In some cases if you are an artist that is well-known around the world, that also helps.

Does not hurt to try in case you want to move to another country. I've lived in four, myself. Gives a good perspective of how little this planet really is.
Kassandra Guthmiller
22.10.2012
What are the universities like in Germany, anyone? I want to do a PhD next year and am pretty open to suggestions of other unis. Plus I'd love to live in Berlin for the techno
Tesha Freudenstein
22.10.2012
Originally Posted by Bassline Brine
My biggest question has always been...

How does one get a job moving to a different country if they don't have a particularly useful degree? lol.

I've thought a lot about this myself, and planning on visiting the UK and maybe a couple other spots to check them out. Have ALWAYS wanted to move there, even if it's just a few years, but maybe even a lifetime.

But my issue is... unless you're working for a specific company, how does one get a decent job? Is there some secret that I've just overlooked?

... I have a degree in Criminal Justice here in the USA, and don't believe it's really applicable for overseas. Not that I really want anything to do with CJ anymore (I work in tech support for Bose now), but it's always been that "hill" that I've not been able to figure out.
i can only speak for germany and say without at least a college degree it is really hard getting a job. anything below that isn't really recognized so unless you're lucky you are looking at the low end jobs.
Glennis Bischoff
21.10.2012
WOW! i haven't been getting email updates from this thread, i probably just missed one and they stopped sending. thanks so much for all the advice in this thread, i haven't been able to read it all yet, but i wanted to thank you all for contributing. my degree i'm aiming for is a stagecrafting and lighting degree. i work in the theatre department and am getting a technical side of the arts degree, with a second major in acting and directing. i also have a minor in computer science as well. my goal is to end up working on the road with traveling bands and shows, being able to plan out the stages and set up gear . its something ive helped with in the past, and absolutely love doing.

hope that helps a little with the responses, and i'm sure a degree that has these qualities may actually be somewhat helpful in other countries. but i still have a few years left to go in college, as i'm doing a lot of random studies as well. not really sure what i want to get into, or what could be beneficial.
Audrey Pinda
20.10.2012
My biggest question has always been...

How does one get a job moving to a different country if they don't have a particularly useful degree? lol.

I've thought a lot about this myself, and planning on visiting the UK and maybe a couple other spots to check them out. Have ALWAYS wanted to move there, even if it's just a few years, but maybe even a lifetime.

But my issue is... unless you're working for a specific company, how does one get a decent job? Is there some secret that I've just overlooked?

... I have a degree in Criminal Justice here in the USA, and don't believe it's really applicable for overseas. Not that I really want anything to do with CJ anymore (I work in tech support for Bose now), but it's always been that "hill" that I've not been able to figure out.
Tessie Spice
18.10.2012
Originally Posted by itsbentheboy
i've always been fascinated with countries like Sweden, Switzerland, or Norway.
Hey! I was born in England, grew up in Switzerland and am currently spending a year living in Norway.

Both the Swiss and the Norwegians are quite unique and come across rather cold, but once you get to know them they're really cool people to be around. If you only speak English, you'll find it a little bit easier to get along in Norway, as the general level of English is much higher than in Switzerland.

Both countries are expensive compared to the states. Norway is especially expensive (read: ridiculous) when it comes to Tobacco and Alcohol. From what I've understood, it's easier to become a citizen and/or gain a working permit than in Switzerland. That obviously doesn't mean it can't be done in both countries though.

I'm also not sure what sort of work you do, but if you're a white collar office slave, Switzerland is where you're likely to earn more money (especially as an expatriate). The difference in salaries when comparing people with different positions at any given company will be a LOT bigger than in Norway.

Those are the main things that come to mind off the bat. If you have any more questions just reply or PM me.

Another thing that comes to mind is that if you only speak English, it will be easy to settle in a village in central Switzerland (lots of international/English-speaking communities and families). In Norway, it will probably be a lot easier to settle in one of the big cities.
Tesha Freudenstein
18.10.2012
Originally Posted by anteater32
I live not far from Edinburgh and commute in for work, its a great town just be prepared to live with perpetual rain and greyness for most of the year....... but when the sun finally does comes out its a brilliant part of the world
yeah. edinburgh is pretty nice from what i've seen the short time i was there. had lots of rain but the places around cowgate and grassmarket are pretty fun

Originally Posted by Ed Paris
germany! nothing else to say.
fucking ay!
Janyce Henningson
18.10.2012
Amsterdam because it's fun
Aundrea Lenore
17.10.2012
It's very difficult to get a work visa in Scandinavia. I tried for a long time to expat to Denmark. It didn't happen.

The UK is your best bet to my knowledge, but still an arduous process.

I spent extended time in Copenhagen and London, loved them both.
Palma Hanslip
13.10.2012
Originally Posted by anteater32
I live not far from Edinburgh and commute in for work, its a great town just be prepared to live with perpetual rain and greyness for most of the year....... but when the sun finally does comes out its a brilliant part of the world
I live up in Peterhead North or Aberdeen and the rain is horrific so I'm used to it but others may not be I suppose
Nereida Jasnoch
13.10.2012
Originally Posted by Destiny
Hey there! It's kinda ironic to read this, as I'm from Belgium, and my ambition is to move to the USA. The big difference is that getting in the EU is way less hard than vice versa.
Yeah I had that dream too when I was younger, but then I realized the USA isn't that great after all.
At the moment Belgium (and the rest of EU) seems to suck a little bit less than the USA.

No offence intended to US based community users, also didn't want to start a discussion about politics or anything else. Just my opinion.

Also to OP:If you 're rich a scandinavian country might be awesome and if you're not that wealthy a eastern european country might be better for you. I mean if you live like a normal person in western europe, you could be living like a rich motherfucker/king in hungary for example.
Matt Kane
13.10.2012
germany! nothing else to say.
Stanley Peckman
12.10.2012
Originally Posted by Liambo
Suggestion 1 - Norway
The place is out of this world! Expensive to live there but the whole feel of the place and community is brilliant.
I travel to Norway up to 10 times a year on work.

Suggestion 2 - Edinburgh, Scotland
Busy, Historic, English speaking, Cheap enough to live and plenty to do about and not much travel to bigger cities.
I go to Edinburgh on a monthly basis.

I live not far from Edinburgh and commute in for work, its a great town just be prepared to live with perpetual rain and greyness for most of the year....... but when the sun finally does comes out its a brilliant part of the world
Celine Surico
11.10.2012
I don't know how easy it is to get a working permit in Norway (not part of EU), unless you have a Nordic passport when it's a no-brainer.
Estrella Rozzo
11.10.2012
Hey there! It's kinda ironic to read this, as I'm from Belgium, and my ambition is to move to the USA. The big difference is that getting in the EU is way less hard than vice versa.
I read you're finishing college, and then moving. You might take into account that your degree which you're working hard for (at least implying that) is useless here. Have you been to Europe before? If not, go on a Eurotrip! I understand that you have this picture of a whole new world, but make sure you know what you're up to. Every country has it's own culture, it's own habits, etc etc. And depending on where you'll be going, the most basic things might cost a lot more. Just a few things to keep in mind.

I'll take Belgium for example. Taxes are w
Palma Hanslip
11.10.2012
Suggestion 1 - Norway
The place is out of this world! Expensive to live there but the whole feel of the place and community is brilliant.
I travel to Norway up to 10 times a year on work.

Suggestion 2 - Edinburgh, Scotland
Busy, Historic, English speaking, Cheap enough to live and plenty to do about and not much travel to bigger cities.
I go to Edinburgh on a monthly basis.
Nereida Jasnoch
11.10.2012
I believe Belgium 's pretty awesome, and 'd be happy to answer some of the questions you may have, but I believe Barcelona 's the nicest suggestion in this thread so far.

Oh wait nevermind, economy 's gone to $h*t
Random X
10.10.2012
Originally Posted by MYE
ibiza
Because it is the land of electronic music and incredibly beautiful
i have not been there
Only during summer season mate, only during summer season.

It's truly best to believe where you'd want to be and what you'd want to avoid. Some countries can be pretty harsh on you if you only speak English, others are extra lenient.
Danae Dumler
06.10.2012
Berlin. Or Copenhagen.
Tatum Ansaldo
05.10.2012
Barcelona's a pretty awesome place to live...
Edwina Fagel
05.10.2012
England if your'e not willing to learn language.
Otherwise there are far more intresting places to live.
Its all about the things you can do.
If your lets say a start-up guy then Nordics are the place to live atm.
Rosena Machold
05.10.2012
Depends on what you want peace, chicks, food, weather.
Bunny Sockel
05.10.2012
ibiza
Because it is the land of electronic music and incredibly beautiful
i have not been there
Merideth Garnder
05.10.2012
I did the same and moved to Korea for two years after college. During my stay, I traveled all over Asia - Japan, China, Thailand, and much more.

I wouldn't take it back for anything and it really was the best time of my life. Now it's been a good while since then....I'm now the marketing director for a major food company and I still look out my window and imagine hopping on the next flight out of town.

Be wary though....some of my friends started the journey with me and they never came back home....
Celine Surico
05.10.2012
Visit or live? For long term you need a work permit, depending on your education it is easy or really hard. As an American Canada might be the easiest to get a work permit.

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