producing. Should i start with easier genres?
producing. Should i start with easier genres? Posted on: 10.07.2012 by Zulma Ramji Hey guys,I am working hard on learning ableton as i really want to produce original tracks. I really enjoy agressive dubstep style electro but it seems extremely hard to make. Should I start with arguably easier genres such as minimal techno etc to learn in and outs of the sound design and the software and then get started on more complex sounding tracks; or should go straight for complex tracks and keep trying until i get it? Any stories from your experience are welcome! | |
| Sylvia Greener 11.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Maven
But I believe every genre has it's advantages and disadvantages. Some focus more on melodical stuff, some more on sound design... |
| Ervin Calvery 10.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by padi_04
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| Ervin Calvery 10.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by vpech013
Minimalism isn't simple, or as simple as 'less sound.' http://www.kylegann.com/postminimalism.html |
| Zulma Ramji 10.07.2012 | Hey guys, I am working hard on learning ableton as i really want to produce original tracks. I really enjoy agressive dubstep style electro but it seems extremely hard to make. Should I start with arguably easier genres such as minimal techno etc to learn in and outs of the sound design and the software and then get started on more complex sounding tracks; or should go straight for complex tracks and keep trying until i get it? Any stories from your experience are welcome! |
| Zulma Ramji 11.07.2012 | thanks guy, really clears things up. i am new so i just want to make sure i tacle things right. cheers |
| Yukiko Beauvil 11.07.2012 | Yeah, there are no such thing as easy genre, you can make any style of music but what matter is how is the song as in quality. |
| Sylvia Greener 11.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Maven
But I believe every genre has it's advantages and disadvantages. Some focus more on melodical stuff, some more on sound design... |
| Yukiko Beauvil 11.07.2012 | from what I experienced for the last couple months. Minimal, techno, indie dance, deep house, house genres that are actually slower even ambient and lounge is harder to produce as in quality. It is harder to make something groovy and not stale with less elements. |
| Zulma Ramji 10.07.2012 | Thanks, Tommi! thats a great piece of advice. |
| Nedra Fresneda 10.07.2012 | ^+1 |
| Germaine Bernadin 10.07.2012 | I have released many,many,many Minimal tracks and have been producing since 1992. It is not easy. Every single sound is sculpted and has to work 101%. The secret to minimal music is that it should sound effortless, it has to be groovy... and I feel every single kick and snare all the way. Or any kind of dance music. The only way you will EVER learn... is if you feel your art. Jump straight into it headlong, I was lucky to have Brian Eno for a personal tutor for a few weeks in the mid 90s. I asked him one day after a lecture how he got his sound, he replied ... "when I get a new bit of kit I throw away the manual and then just dive right into it... I experiment and have those happy accidents, I learn from my mistakes or simply just have fun..." These words have never left me.... When I have taught young producers in the past, I say .. just experiment and produce what you are feeling, who wants to listen to half assed music that has no fucking soul? Be patient, I have been producing for many years as I have mentioned and guess what I have yet still loads to learn, art is not the end product it is the creative process ...............this is where the art is. You dig? You simply cannot rush art, it takes many years to master...... whats the race? Are you terminaly ill and have to get famous in two months? I'll be releasing and creating music for another twenty ... thirty years. Why? Cus it is great fun at the end of the day and I enjoy trying to push myself each and every track I create. Producers seldom talk about the fundamentals anymore. Its all massive ego. So just dive right in........ and have FUN! |
| Zulma Ramji 10.07.2012 | thanks guys, you all bring great points i appreciate it |
| Celine Surico 10.07.2012 | You should do music you believe should be out there and nobody else does it so you do it instead. |
| Sylvia Greener 10.07.2012 | You could start with buying some sample packs you appreciate. Load them into your DAW and start arranging. Once you believe you have understood how to arrange a song you can start with replacing more and more pre-canned parts by parts you created yourself. Keep practising, watch tutorials, listen to your songs over and over again on different sound systems to check what could be improved. Also try to get feedback from your family, friends and so on (best would be from people that don't lie to be polite!). |
| Ervin Calvery 10.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by padi_04
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| Ervin Calvery 10.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by vpech013
Minimalism isn't simple, or as simple as 'less sound.' http://www.kylegann.com/postminimalism.html |
| Nedra Fresneda 10.07.2012 | It has less elements, but that doesn't mean that it's easier. You need to compensate that with other techniques to keep it interesting, otherwise it will just suck. Produce the genre you like. |
| Ervin Calvery 11.07.2012 | Please don't! We want to hear tracks that you're really in to. Don't release things that you aren't really in to! I don't know that that means that you 'should go straight for complex tracks and keep trying until [you] get it.' You can always practice and weave the story of where your music comes from. Who says minimal techno is any easier than 'agressive dubstep style electro,' or that it will help you 'to learn the ins and outs of the sound design and the software'? |
| Zulma Ramji 11.07.2012 | its just seems that minimal has less sound to it, dont you agree? |
| Celestine Porebski 11.07.2012 | Why should minimal tehcno be easier to produce than electro "house"? |
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