DJTT Mix competition - Whos got the balls?

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DJTT Mix competition - Whos got the balls?
Posted on: 10.08.2012 by Lawana Spratlen
Who wants to go in a head to head mix off?

We can do a knockout competition and run a vote.

Kinda like a mix train but a bit different.

The rules (Any input welcome):

30 - 45 min
Any Genre
Any format ie vinyl, traktor, ableton, serato or whatever!

Whos in? Put your names down and I will randomly sort out who plays against who

23.08.2012		7 months ago isn't that old. The mix is a bit meh though (especially for a studio mix), I see why you didn't post it. The levels are all over the place and some of the transitions are a bit staid, not much layering or long mixes, just intro into outro.
Lawana Spratlen
23.08.2012		Got an old mixcloud and soundcloud, no recent mixs though, havnt uploaded for a few months

23.08.2012
Originally Posted by BFLY
Hard to say really - techno,house,bass seem to be flitting about at the moment, depends what mood im in really.
Oh, a bandwagon jumper eh?

Just found your mixcloud page (which you refused to post a link to before).
Leeanna Ayla
23.08.2012		I'm not going to get into ableton vs traktor vs all vinyl. Someone could say the did their mix with 14 gold played turntables and without a video there's no way to prove it.

I'm open to changing the genre list as I won't start voting polls on those till the end. So speak up if you believe we should combine some categories.
Lawana Spratlen
23.08.2012
Originally Posted by Jack Bastard
What music do you play btw?
Hard to say really - techno,house,bass seem to be flitting about at the moment, depends what mood im in really.

23.08.2012
Originally Posted by BFLY
Pipe down Cheese Boy, Ableton/Traktor/Vinyl its all good, just need to work out what im going to use. I did fancy spending some time putting together an ableton mix with some field recordings and stuff.
What music do you play btw?
Kasi Marget
23.08.2012
House
Deep House
Tech House
Nu-Disco
Techno
Drum and Bass
Breaks
Dubstep
Hardcore
Trance
Hip Hop
Open
I don't get it. We must stick to 1 genre ?
What about starting dubstep and ending with dnb for example ? Is it allowed ?
Lawana Spratlen
23.08.2012
Originally Posted by Jack Bastard
Don't worry, with your vast experience at djing I'm sure you'll still be able to blow everyone (away).
Pipe down Cheese Boy, Ableton/Traktor/Vinyl its all good, just need to work out what im going to use. I did fancy spending some time putting together an ableton mix with some field recordings and stuff.

23.08.2012
Originally Posted by BFLY
All mixes must be done live in one take.

So I cant use ableton?
Don't worry, with your vast experience at djing I'm sure you'll still be able to blow everyone (away).
Lawana Spratlen
23.08.2012		All mixes must be done live in one take.

So I cant use ableton?
Leeanna Ayla
23.08.2012

Rules

  • 30 minutes max If you go over I'll give you the option of cutting the end or the beginning.
  • Full track list required.
  • PM a link to download your mix and tell me what category you want to be in. I will not pass judgment if I believe your techno mix is trance or vice-versa. It's up to you to know what you're playing.
  • I will not make any volume or EQ adjustments to your mix. It's up to you to make those before you send it to me.
  • All mixes must be done live in one take.
  • Each category must have at least two entrants. You do not automatically win if you have the only polkacore mix
  • No identifying which mix is yours in any way. If you're found to do this your mix will be pulled. If you send me a Soundcloud link make sure it's private and you send me the private link. Keep it private until the contest is over.
  • You have until Midevening CST September 8th. Voting will end on September 30th at 10:00 PM CST. It's up to you to figure out what time that is in your time zone. Anything the community s says was sent after that time will not be included



  • House
  • Deep House
  • Tech House
  • Nu-Disco
  • Techno
  • Drum and Bass
  • Breaks
  • Dubstep
  • Hardcore
  • Trance
  • Hip Hop
  • Open
Rey Holubar
23.08.2012		How about starting a poll with a list of genres, as the first step, to even see who would put up a mix in that genre? If say less than 7 people put in their vote for a genre, then that genre wouldn't make it into that contest (believeing we may do more than one here). Or only take the top 3 or 4 voted genres for the contest?

scamo
Edwardo Rothenberger
22.08.2012
Originally Posted by zeddee
I would be down, I use mixxx, and mix dubstep, electo-house, and hardsyle in the same mix. (rarely hardstyle, though, i only have 4 tracks, and its hard to mix into from something else. )
Zeddee/ best enjoyed loud. (deciding my name)
We need a Balearic genre then
Jaye Walkington
22.08.2012		I would be down, I use mixxx, and mix dubstep, electo-house, and hardsyle in the same mix. (rarely hardstyle, though, i only have 4 tracks, and its hard to mix into from something else. )
Zeddee/ best enjoyed loud. (deciding my name)
Cristian Carmona
22.08.2012
Lawana Spratlen
22.08.2012
Originally Posted by photojojo
I'm working on rules right now and getting some mod opinions. When I get some answers I'll post the rules.
Fantastico, Im hoping that its in the spirit of my op
Kassandra Guthmiller
22.08.2012		I believe having separate genres that BFLY suggested would be the best option. There are many different sub genres to choose from; you could enter a house mix that could be deep house, tech house, electro house etc. and they would sound markedly different. So grouping 2 or 3 genres together, i.e. house, techno, trance would just make it much more complicated
Leeanna Ayla
22.08.2012		I'm working on rules right now and getting some mod opinions. When I get some answers I'll post the rules.
Rey Holubar
22.08.2012		Yes, I know. But what you are looking for is also harder to judge, because it gets into a very specific realm of subjectivity.

scamo
Lawana Spratlen
22.08.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
This is an example of a contest already held by DJTT. I'd like to see something similar, despite the wishes for longer playtime. Maybe the playtime could be extended to 15 minutes?

http://www.djranking s.com/2008/09/2...x-competition/

scamo

Thats not what I was getting at in my OP. I was believeing of at least 30 min where people could show off there track selection and ability to choose the best way of mixing songs, not any mash up style mixs. Maybe we could add mash up to the genre list but imo it goes against what I was hoping for.
Rey Holubar
22.08.2012		This is an example of a contest already held by DJTT. I'd like to see something similar, despite the wishes for longer playtime. Maybe the playtime could be extended to 15 minutes?

http://www.djranking s.com/2008/09/2...x-competition/

scamo
Leigh Dollyhigh
22.08.2012
Originally Posted by BFLY
Those three groups all have very different genres in.

i was believeing more from the point of view of the voters.

most people who like house music, also enjoy techno so would probably listen to those sets over drum and bass and hip hop.
most people who like drum and bass also listen to dubstep, as they are both loud, obnoxious and energetic genres.
hip hop and charts go together as it ofter requires the same type of skill to mix together and are more closely suited then house and hip hop.

otherwise people wont want to sit through one massive entry list listening to genres they may not like, which ultimatly leads to them not voting on it just because the music isnt there taste

just my 2 cents on it all
Lawana Spratlen
22.08.2012
Originally Posted by BFLY
Those three groups all have very different genres in.
Id have:
1.House
2.Techno
3.Drum and Bass
4.Dubstep
5.Trance
6.Hip Hop
7.Leftfield/Mixed

Its then up to each DJ to decide which genre there mix best fits into.
Lawana Spratlen
22.08.2012
Originally Posted by ctg23
and about the whole genre thing, why not just split into 3 seperate categories with 3 different winners.

Group 1 can be any type of house/techno or trance
Group 2 can be either drum and bass or dubstep
Group 3 can be hip hop/ chart music

then the winner of each group can then be voted on and the winner of that becomes king of england for a day?
Those three groups all have very different genres in.
Leigh Dollyhigh
22.08.2012		and about the whole genre thing, why not just split into 3 seperate categories with 3 different winners.

Group 1 can be any type of house/techno or trance
Group 2 can be either drum and bass or dubstep
Group 3 can be hip hop/ chart music

then the winner of each group can then be voted on and the winner of that becomes king of england for a day?
Lawana Spratlen
22.08.2012
Originally Posted by ctg23
any turntabalist would win over a standard mix and blend set in my eyes.

as DJ's on this board, im sure we can all mix one track into another and play with filters and effects. the onlyway people would judge those sets is based on their personal taste.
Vote for the one you like best then!
Leigh Dollyhigh
22.08.2012
Originally Posted by durtyjerzy609
I'd love to enter a mix, but come on now kids, can we please get some rules ironed out.

as for my two cents, i dont really play alot of EDM. I'm more hiphop / ghetto funk / break beat / turntablism.... so with that being said, whats the deal?

any turntabalist would win over a standard mix and blend set in my eyes.

as DJ's on this board, im sure we can all mix one track into another and play with filters and effects. the onlyway people would judge those sets is based on their personal taste.
Lawana Spratlen
22.08.2012
Originally Posted by photojojo
We don't need Ean to have a fun, for kudos only mix comp on the community . At the very least I know I have some stickers to send winners. I'll try and get a post together outlining rules later today. I'm pretty busy mapping some new toys that came on Monday and learning how to use another that came last Friday so it may not be until later.
Great. It would be nice for the comp to have some coverage on the actuasl DJTT blog though dont ya believe?
Stefania Herb
22.08.2012
Originally Posted by photojojo
We don't need Ean to have a fun, for kudos only mix comp on the community . At the very least I know I have some stickers to send winners. I'll try and get a post together outlining rules later today. I'm pretty busy mapping some new toys that came on Monday and learning how to use another that came last Friday so it may not be until later.
Thanks JoJo, I always knew I could put faith in the justful and knowledgeable Mods of DJTT
Leeanna Ayla
22.08.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
Since I know the organization just a little, I am going to go out on a limb and say a competition like this would need Ean's wisdom, guidance and approval, before it can be plugged as an official DJTT Mix Contest.

scamo

We don't need Ean to have a fun, for kudos only mix comp on the community . At the very least I know I have some stickers to send winners. I'll try and get a post together outlining rules later today. I'm pretty busy mapping some new toys that came on Monday and learning how to use another that came last Friday so it may not be until later.
Lawana Spratlen
22.08.2012
Originally Posted by Jack Bastard
I don't know how you're meant to judge different genres against each other, I mean what's the better mix - Coldcut's Journeys by DJ, Sasha and Digweed's Northern Exposure or Derrick Carter's Back 2 Basic's mix?


I've listened to all of those a lot, but I couldn't tell you which is the best mix of the 3.
You could just choose winners of each category
Stefania Herb
22.08.2012		I'd love to enter a mix, but come on now kids, can we please get some rules ironed out.

as for my two cents, i dont really play alot of EDM. I'm more hiphop / ghetto funk / break beat / turntablism.... so with that being said, whats the deal?
Brunilda Kora
22.08.2012
Coldcut's Journeys by DJ
Is the answer!

22.08.2012		I don't know how you're meant to judge different genres against each other, I mean what's the better mix - Coldcut's Journeys by DJ, Sasha and Digweed's Northern Exposure or Derrick Carter's Back 2 Basic's mix?


I've listened to all of those a lot, but I couldn't tell you which is the best mix of the 3.
Alona Durfee
22.08.2012		Id throw down a mix for sure...
Lawana Spratlen
21.08.2012		Mods - Its over to you!!!
Kasi Marget
21.08.2012
Originally Posted by scamo
Since I know the organization just a little, I am going to go out on a limb and say a competition like this would need Ean's wisdom, guidance and approval, before it can be plugged as an official DJTT Mix Contest.

scamo
Well, that's the commnunity that makes DJTT what it is/became. But still, it's true we don't own the name, therefore Ean's approval is needed, but it's just a matter of time imo, because he'll probably dig the idea.
#1 priority is to have decent rules and organisation imo.
Rey Holubar
21.08.2012		Since I know the organization just a little, I am going to go out on a limb and say a competition like this would need Ean's wisdom, guidance and approval, before it can be plugged as an official DJTT Mix Contest.

scamo
Lawana Spratlen
21.08.2012		Can one of the mods sort this out?
- Decide on the final rules
- Set up a place for uploading tunes
Kasi Marget
20.08.2012		Pre defined set of tracks ? Ahahaha.
We are supposed to have fun while DJing and participating in the competition. I don't really like the idea to spin a genre I hate.

On the other hand, whoever said that the genre of the mix will influence the voting of the community is right.
That's the reason why I believe we should have a panel of judges that are experienced, and the panel should cover the whole "EDM spectrum" of genres.

I see some problems about that though :

- Judges have to be picked wisely because they have to be capable of having an opinion on the mixing skills without being influenced whether they like the music or not.

- Judges will not be able to participate

- There won't be a big amont of judges that are capable and willing

- They will have at least 30mins/1h of careful listening to do everyday if we don't want the competition to take 2 years to be over. Not everyone can be that dedicated to an online competition..



We also have to decide, if we adopt this judging system, how do we decide who won ?

1) Every judge gives each DJ a note (internally, the audience does not know who gave what), and we remove the lowest and the highest note of every DJ, and do the average. The DJ with the highest average wins, and his note is "published".

2) Every judge says who wins in his opinion. The DJ with the most "likes" wins. To do so, we need an odd number of judges.



PS : If we want to do a "versus style" competition, we need a number of competitors that suits, like 16,32...
PS 2 : I'd put a 1 weed deadline, it's way enough to build a set and record it.

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