Gauging Interest in 4 Channel MIDI Mixer

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Gauging Interest in 4 Channel MIDI Mixer
Posted on: 10.08.2013 by Doreen Schurle
Howdy folks, so the time has come for me to hassle you all again about a potential new product that I'm hoping to bring to market alongside a big company

This would be a pure 4 channel MIDI mixer; nothing fancy, styled after the Z1 (same height, same length, but twice as wide and constructed with a metal chassis). Up faders will be damped for smooth mixes, and the crossfader MAY be an Innofader Mini depending on how much it'd change the pricing by.

3 band EQ per channel, dedicated filter knob, and a gain knob. There'll also be kill switches for each EQ band, possibly as a separate button or - more likely - as a push-down on the knob with an indicator light.

It'll have a basic 4-out/4-in audio interface built in which will let you hook up a microphone or two AUX inputs for live playback through decks C and D in Traktor, and unbalanced and balanced outputs.

So, would there be interest in this product?
Sonja Roybal
11.08.2013
Originally Posted by synthet1c
why not make a cavity that can fit an [audio => 8/10, serato => sl3, sl4] instead of including a soundcard, then you could just run patch cables throughout the inside of the box from the unmodified soundcard to the back of the box so you can wire everything up normally, it would be a bit messy to set up but once it's in the box you could forget about it.
That's basically the MM1. The MM1 has transport controls too and costs $130.
Wilton Keuning
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by P4ULSON
headphone jack on top at bottom left plz
On the front panel or the top panel?

EDIT: BRB. Learning Lessons.
Arnulfo Morten
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by ProfessorStrangeman
Soooo my mockup?
headphone jack on top at bottom left plz
Wilton Keuning
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by P4ULSON
now that i believe of it... just make a s4 without the jog wheels, transport and effects stuff done and done
Soooo my mockup?

Arnulfo Morten
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by DJBife
Well, this is my point of view of what would be a perfect 4 channel midi mixer.

Untitled_1.jpg

I can't understand why someone still haven't come up with one like this. Independent Vu meters, 3 band EQ, Gain knobs, Rotary push encoders for browsing/loading decks, aluminum filter knobs and a really simple design.
now that i believe of it... just make a s4 without the jog wheels, transport and effects stuff done and done
Leon Albornoz
10.08.2013		Well, this is my point of view of what would be a perfect 4 channel midi mixer.

Untitled_1.jpg

I can't understand why someone still haven't come up with one like this. Independent Vu meters, 3 band EQ, Gain knobs, Rotary push encoders for browsing/loading decks, aluminum filter knobs and a really simple design.
Wilton Keuning
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Just to clarify something (Stewe?), does Traktor currently support VU meter displays via MIDI?
Check out the video I posted on Page 1! It sure is!

EDIT: Here's the video.

Kellie Myrum
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
Shorter Master Out VU with those knobs in the middle would make more sense, as the channel VUs are the important ones.
Good point.

Also with all those knobs in a way it would be impossible to cut.
Alphonso Deitchman
11.08.2013		The idea for this MIDI mixer was to have it the same height as modular controllers, so it wouldn't be able to fit a sound card either.
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
11.08.2013		what your talking about is completely unrelated to my post bishop. An MM1 would never be able to fit an unmodified soundcard in it's original case. And transport controls are simply a couple of button's added to the design, but from what mdc was saying it would have pads or buttons to replicate the Z2 functionality.
Sonja Roybal
11.08.2013
Originally Posted by synthet1c
why not make a cavity that can fit an [audio => 8/10, serato => sl3, sl4] instead of including a soundcard, then you could just run patch cables throughout the inside of the box from the unmodified soundcard to the back of the box so you can wire everything up normally, it would be a bit messy to set up but once it's in the box you could forget about it.
That's basically the MM1. The MM1 has transport controls too and costs $130.
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
11.08.2013		why not make a cavity that can fit an [audio => 8/10, serato => sl3, sl4] instead of including a soundcard, then you could just run patch cables throughout the inside of the box from the unmodified soundcard to the back of the box so you can wire everything up normally, it would be a bit messy to set up but once it's in the box you could forget about it.
Wilton Keuning
10.08.2013		P4ULSON's Edit.

Wilton Keuning
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by P4ULSON
headphone jack on top at bottom left plz
On the front panel or the top panel?

EDIT: BRB. Learning Lessons.
Arnulfo Morten
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by ProfessorStrangeman
Soooo my mockup?
headphone jack on top at bottom left plz
Wilton Keuning
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by P4ULSON
now that i believe of it... just make a s4 without the jog wheels, transport and effects stuff done and done
Soooo my mockup?

Arnulfo Morten
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by DJBife
Well, this is my point of view of what would be a perfect 4 channel midi mixer.

Untitled_1.jpg

I can't understand why someone still haven't come up with one like this. Independent Vu meters, 3 band EQ, Gain knobs, Rotary push encoders for browsing/loading decks, aluminum filter knobs and a really simple design.
now that i believe of it... just make a s4 without the jog wheels, transport and effects stuff done and done
Leon Albornoz
10.08.2013		Well, this is my point of view of what would be a perfect 4 channel midi mixer.

Untitled_1.jpg

I can't understand why someone still haven't come up with one like this. Independent Vu meters, 3 band EQ, Gain knobs, Rotary push encoders for browsing/loading decks, aluminum filter knobs and a really simple design.
Kellie Myrum
10.08.2013		Yep, it's Add Out > Mixer > Meters
Wilton Keuning
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Just to clarify something (Stewe?), does Traktor currently support VU meter displays via MIDI?
Check out the video I posted on Page 1! It sure is!

EDIT: Here's the video.

Doreen Schurle
10.08.2013		I will do EVERYTHING I can to make sure that the unit can be bus-powered. However, it WILL include a USB hub which can be DC powered, either by a 5V brick or a 7.4V lithium battery pack.

Just to clarify something (Stewe?), does Traktor currently support VU meter displays via MIDI?

EDIT: Scratch that, apparently it does. So... selectable pre/post-fader VUs via a little toggle button, anyone?
Wilton Keuning
10.08.2013		Stewe's Edit and if it is pure MIDI I'd believe so, but if we A include a USB hub or B a sound card, maybe not.

Kellie Myrum
10.08.2013		Load buttons and dedicated Shift would be nice

Is this USB powered?
Wilton Keuning
10.08.2013		Better?

Kellie Myrum
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
Shorter Master Out VU with those knobs in the middle would make more sense, as the channel VUs are the important ones.
Good point.

Also with all those knobs in a way it would be impossible to cut.
Alphonso Deitchman
10.08.2013		Shorter Master Out VU with those knobs in the middle would make more sense, as the channel VUs are the important ones.
Wilton Keuning
10.08.2013		Crossfader added, and worked on some spacing.



EDIT: My 300th post was appeasing "Karlos Santos". Worth it.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
10.08.2013		Not putting crossfader on it will please some people but it wouldn't stop many of those people from buying it.
Not putting a crossfader on it WILL stop a LOT of people buying it. Me for one.
Wilton Keuning
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by happydan
Dump the gloss. It's a silly 'feature'.
:|

FINE. MATTE FRONT. Not photoshopping that in. haha!
Evalyn Voges
10.08.2013		Dump the gloss. It's a silly 'feature'.
Wilton Keuning
10.08.2013		Obv adjustments on spacing are due, and maybe a Cue Mix knob, but that's subjective.

Alphonso Deitchman
10.08.2013		And the short VUs that are pretty useless on the S4.
Wilton Keuning
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by dripstep
Why short throw faders professor?
DOUBLE FUCK. BRB. Re-working the pic. >.<
Yong Aptekar
10.08.2013		Why short throw faders professor?
Wilton Keuning
10.08.2013		I picture something like this.



EDIT: Fuck. Totally forgot Mic Vol and Cue Vol/Mix Knobs. Those too.
Yong Aptekar
10.08.2013		Oh no,i totally get it, I'm sure the traktor cert. isn't cheap. I just like my analog mixer lol
Doreen Schurle
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by dripstep
Really cool idea, I dig this, but without being traktor certified, I'm out. Watching this though, I'd love to see it happen.
I'm not ruling anything out, ultimately it all comes down to licensing and pricing.

I get the feeling people would rather have a unit like this for
Yong Aptekar
10.08.2013		Really cool idea, I dig this, but without being traktor certified, I'm out. Watching this though, I'd love to see it happen.
Rolande Posso
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
So, would there be interest in this product?
if its like this

http://djworx.com/4midiloop-traktor-midi-controller/


at a cheaper price then yes
Alphonso Deitchman
10.08.2013		A Terminal Mix 4 instead? Didn't you just get rid of yours?

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