How to do precise piitch fadding with Traktor Scratch Pro 2.6?
How to do precise piitch fadding with Traktor Scratch Pro 2.6? Posted on: 13.09.2013 by Vikki Falkenrath I want to test some editing I did on tracks but don't wanna keep burning CDs to play on my CDJ-200s, But when I use Traktor 2.6 on my notebook I can't use pitch faders with the precision of the CDJs (0,02%), I can just adjust to a maximum precision of 0,1%, which is ridiculous for old school mixing. Is it possible to raise the pitch fader precision on Traktor? So I can simulate things I would do on CDJs.(please don't mention Sync, that is not the point) (If it's not possible, should I try Serato?) Tranks | |
Maranda Cowels 14.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by Daniboy
Asking for mainstream EDM with lot's of beatmatching will get you hated even more so than you already are. You want real beatmatching and all that? Try some irregular rhythm patterns, or weird time signatures. THAT is some true skill beatmatching. You basically confirmed that you're a top 40 DJ trying to emulate a machine. Which is stupid. We're here for the music, along with some mad skills. All you have is tastelessness and a pedantic obsession with utter perfection. You do realise that even machine made music drifts. Not enough to hear, not by a long shot, but you with your 0,000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000001% precision hearing should be able to pick it up. Wait, what's that? You've been talking crap this whole time? That's surprising. |
Vikki Falkenrath 14.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patech
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Vikki Falkenrath 14.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by Cookish
I want to see the fine changing of the percentage, the one that the CDJs show. I need it to be like 0,02%.....0,04%.....0,06%.... understand? |
Maranda Cowels 14.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by Cookish
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Carter Wetrich 14.09.2013 | Oh I see... As far as I know there is no way to show a more precise read out of % on Traktor. |
Vikki Falkenrath 14.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by flpanhandler
I will answer this with 3 youtube videos: First one is a lesson to mix DnB without beatmatching, and the 2 other ones are tracks that you used which start with no beat, just melody, which would aply perfectly on that lesson. Give me an mainstream EDM mix, with a lot of beatmatching please... ...I'm talking about 0,001 bpm precision and this guy gives me melody fade in fade out.... |
Ellis Plischke 14.09.2013 | I understand exactly what you're asking, you're just asking it the wrong way. All your looking for is the bpm DISPLAY to read to two decimal points, instead of one decimal point, is that correct? |
Vikki Falkenrath 14.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patech
the BPM counter is very prrecise but the pitch fader percentage counter just shows me 0,0%... 0,1%.....0,2%.... how do I "see" more precision on the pitch fader percentage counter? |
Carter Wetrich 14.09.2013 | So you want less precision? So that Traktor will emulate your cdj200s? |
Vikki Falkenrath 14.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patech
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Carter Wetrich 14.09.2013 | These guys have a point... DJing is about using the tools you have in front of you. Not all the gear is perfect, not even Pioneer cdj2000s. Pitch bend and jog wheels are there for a reason. If you are just going to cue tracks and not have to worry about the bpm falling off then what is the point of beatmatching? Here is your answer: At 8% pitch range hover your cursor over the pitch fader, you will see a "- +" right click on it and select fine. You should be able to get .01 range if you change it to "min" which is better than .02 which you would chose "fine" click on the - or + to change your value. If you don't want to use your mouse then you have to map it to your keyboard buttons. |
Vito Chesnut 14.09.2013 | http://www.mixcloud.com/jamesbthomas...-liquid-enjoy/ http://www.mixcloud.com/jamesbthomaston/ |
Vikki Falkenrath 14.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by flpanhandler
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Vito Chesnut 14.09.2013 | Let me guess, you are quoting the Mixmag top dj list? Any dj worth his weight in shit, knows that those things have nothing to do with skill. If so, Jeff Mills would be in the top 5 every year. I am done with you, as you obviously have no clue nor desire to learn how to DJ properly. Sorry guys, it was fun, but I am off to go get paid to do my art. |
Vikki Falkenrath 14.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by flpanhandler
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Vito Chesnut 14.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by Daniboy
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Vito Chesnut 14.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by Hippie
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Vikki Falkenrath 14.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by flpanhandler
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Maranda Cowels 14.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by Daniboy
I mean, it's not like we tried to help him and then he just spat it back in our faces... Oh wait... |
Vito Chesnut 14.09.2013 | I call BULLSHIT, go check my mixes on my mixcloud and tell me where you can hear any differences in BPM, those were made BEFORE I owned Traktor. |
Olin Easley 14.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by malyatrax
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Vikki Falkenrath 14.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by flpanhandler
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Maranda Cowels 14.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by DISaS73R
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Maranda Cowels 15.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by Daniboy
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Tania Somppi 15.09.2013 | Find or map your own fine pitch controls using the controller manager to solve your problem. |
Olin Easley 15.09.2013 | This thread is getting funnier by the minute. |
Vikki Falkenrath 15.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by malyatrax
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Vito Chesnut 15.09.2013 | I'll shoot an email over to Craze and AndyC, they have been doing it all wrong for years. Wait, I believe this guy is trolling us. |
Vikki Falkenrath 15.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by flpanhandler
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Maranda Cowels 15.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by flpanhandler
That's the big word here. Is an excel document art? Sometimes. Is your Excel document art? No. Is the excel document you've memorized art? No. Case closed. |
Olin Easley 15.09.2013 | Do you really believe that 0.005% is an audible difference? That's 0.00875BPM, you wouldn't notice such difference for more than an hour. Also, people have been beatmatching by ear for so long and it's always worked, stop making excuses. |
Maranda Cowels 15.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by Daniboy
*ahem* |
Vito Chesnut 15.09.2013 | And honestly, an easier fix would be to buy Ableton and warp all of your tracks so that they are an exact bpm, so you do not need to worry about percentage points. Just sayin.. |
Vito Chesnut 15.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by Daniboy
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Vikki Falkenrath 15.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by malyatrax
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Vikki Falkenrath 15.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by DISaS73R
so how do you fix that???? you change the bpm of the other track too, but how much? well you would need to do other calculus like this one you did, or you can use a method that gives you both percentages, understand? |
Maranda Cowels 15.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by Daniboy
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Olin Easley 15.09.2013 | Let's say Track A is playing. It has an original tempo of 128.45 and a percentage of +x%. If you want to bring in a new track with original tempo of 129.33, you pitch it to + (x-0.75*(129.33-128.45)) = x- 0.75*0.9 = + (x - 0.675) % Yes, tunes may (or rather will) drift when you beatmatch by ear, but that's why you have jogwheels. |
Vikki Falkenrath 15.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by malyatrax
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Maranda Cowels 15.09.2013 |
Originally Posted by Daniboy
"Hey guys, ur shit cus u 0.0000001 % off of the BPM, u suck go home I got excel!" |
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