Thinking of switching from a S4 to VCI-400, some questions
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Thinking of switching from a S4 to VCI-400, some questions Posted on: 01.04.2012 by Fady Soliman Looking at the videos out for the VCI-400 and actually getting my hands on one at the Toronto DJ Show (it wasnt hooked up for some reason) and having a friend of mine trying to buy my S4, I'm believeing of switching to the 400 EGE.Couple of questions for those who have one and using it with a mac: 1) what the the best latency setting you can get with a mac? 2) with the EGE model can you customize all the midi controls as with the regular 400? Do you have the options as using it like the regular 400 with the upgraded firmware? 3) how are you liking your 400? pros? cons? I would make the switch in no time if it had booth out and of course there is a firmware upgrade to using two channels as a stand alone mixer which I love. thx! | |
| robin loo 18.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by tbox
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| Kellee Stohrer 18.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
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| robin loo 18.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by tbox
this will help you get started : http://www.traktorbible.com/en/t2_commandfinder.aspx |
| robin loo 18.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by tbox
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| robin loo 17.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by tbox
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| Jeanene Bartmess 10.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
When I enquired via email last week I was told by DJTT "we don't have any upgrade kit plans at this time." |
| Leighann Kashat 10.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by Skerrplunk
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| robin loo 18.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by tbox
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| Kellee Stohrer 18.05.2012 | does any one no if i can buy the VCI-400 EGE in europe |
| Kellee Stohrer 18.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
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| robin loo 18.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by tbox
this will help you get started : http://www.traktorbible.com/en/t2_commandfinder.aspx |
| Kellee Stohrer 18.05.2012 | Hi Can you also map the quant botton on the vci 400 like the S4 |
| robin loo 18.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by tbox
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| Kellee Stohrer 17.05.2012 | Thank you see if this link works http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hC0ZDzs14uU |
| robin loo 17.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by tbox
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| Kellee Stohrer 17.05.2012 | hi can some one help me i would like to buy the new vci 400 but i would like to no if you can do dub fx and use my voice to the music like on the S4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... thank you and sorry for my english |
| Bessie Larr 16.05.2012 | Well it will be after the VCI-400 EGE sells out, at least that would make business sense. Then after a small waiting period. They'll probably say they're in negotiations with Vestax about it. I would say expect it at about a year after the VCI-400 launch (whenever that is I can't remember). |
| Jeanene Bartmess 10.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
When I enquired via email last week I was told by DJTT "we don't have any upgrade kit plans at this time." |
| Leighann Kashat 10.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by Skerrplunk
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| Merry Piesik 09.04.2012 | I own both the S4 and the VCI-400 EGE. I have my S4 in my office and use the EGE at home. There are pro's and con's to both but overally I'd have to say the EGE is better. Here are the concerns though that leave me feeling a bit disappointed in the EGE: * BIGGEST complaint - The Play button on the left side of the fader and the Cue Pause button on the right side of the fader are way too close. I have accidentally hit them multiple times while mixing which totally messes me up. On the S4 you don't run into this issue. I'm adjusting and am being more careful but am terrified of doing this during a gig. * Headphone volume seems too low to me... maybe I'm going deaf but when I'm playing out I find myself turning the volume all the way up. On my S4 it would feel too loud even if I'm blasting the music through the main speakers and my monitors. * The pads themselves don't appear to be as responsive as on my S4. I've noticed this when cue point juggling. * The EGE appears to go into the red more easily than on the S4. When you get your EGE, please let me know what you believe of the headphone volume, main volume, button responsiveness, and the location of those buttons on either sides of the fader. Hopefuly you don't run into these same issues. Now to end on some positives... I LOVE how much this adds to my creativity during mixing. It gives me so many ways of varying my mixes, adding texture to my sets, etc. I love having all 8 cue points easily available. The platter effects are great. I love the design of the EGE, it feels rock solid, etc. |
| Fady Soliman 09.04.2012 | will do once mine gets in my hands |
| Sebastian Schimmer 08.04.2012 | Can you all chime in on the sound quality, how it is better than the S4? In what way? How about the headphone sound also? Unless, I read wrong. Thanks |
| Fady Soliman 06.04.2012 | I had my hands on the 400 at a show and did notice a big difference in quality, felt very sturdy and tight. I also liked that it was a bit smaller than the S4 and had bit less space but not as bad as the denon. this and the fact that a good friend of mine was bugging to buy my S4 is what made my decision. But I did enjoy my S4 and would still recommend it. Gonna post more info once my 400 shows up! |
| Donella Bentch 06.04.2012 | Yesterday I tested a sample of S4. Even if he is made of plastic is serving very well. The jog wheels are much more accurate than the Vestax. The integration of the mapping is really top. In particular, the sample player integration is solved great. I believe this mapping is not copy be placed on the Vestax. The Vestax is much more flexible. The S4 original mapping is not changeble. Nevertheless, the S4 is already a fine machine but I'll stick with my Vestax. |
| Tillie Sliman 06.04.2012 | Former S4 owner here, sold it to get a DJTT edition. I honestly wasn't super thrilled with it at first, it felt cramped compared to the S4 and I felt like a surgeon mixing on it compared to the dnx1600. I felt that there was a lot of redundancy in DJTT's mapping and that the sample decks got shortchanged, that's GOTTA change when 2.5 is out and stable enough to use. However it's grown on me alot as I've learned my way around it and I can appreciate the build quality and sound quality alot more. Once your fingers get used to it the feel and workflow is really quite nice. As far as the platters they need some adjusting in the mapping to improve accuracy, it's possible but scratching is pretty out of a question, not that I'd condone it on most any controller though... |
| Doug Bieling 04.04.2012 | Ok, i saw the statement above that, when you want to remap the S4 you lose the tight integration with Traktor (the nice feeling jogs). By buying an VCI400, are you not doing the same? The jogs are a bit rubbish arent they when compared to something like the s4? MMM |
| Fady Soliman 04.04.2012 | Sweet! thx!! Placing my order now!!!! Humm might get blue ones for the FX also..... |
| Leighann Kashat 04.04.2012 | I haven't put much thought in the headphone volume compared with the S4, but it does sound great The EGE comes with a USB cable (not DJTT one) and you can replace the black chroma caps with any other color from the chroma cap range which you have to buy seperatly (gonna replace my black FX knobs with Blue ones that are on it's way!) |
| Fady Soliman 04.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by Lilja
Also does the EGE come with the usb cable or do I gotta get that separately? I would like to get blue chroma caps for the gain knobs but dont see an option to buy them for the 400, can i just use any vestax knobs listed?? Im ready to buy once these questions are answered!!! Thanks!!! |
| Bessie Larr 02.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by groovemixer
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| Fady Soliman 02.04.2012 | Another questions (most likely more to come!!) Can you customize how the buttons light up? I know with the S4 some crazy cool setup were done with the lighting of the buttons. Also a long shot here but is there more colors to choose from for the light buttons I noticed in some videos the buttons light up green yellow and red. Also with ppl using Ableton the lights were moving to the beat on the sample pads. thx again |
| Leighann Kashat 02.04.2012 | I actually sold my S4 because of it's lack of midi-mapping options without loosing it's main pro: it's tight integration with traktor. With the VCI-400 EGE, you can map to any software along with it's awesome mapping and thanks to that: I can run it along with Ableton live and still have all the options to change the pad and jogwheel modes. As for how I like it? It looks great, feels great, great soundcard, insane mapping, and being able to route it's audio to ableton plus mapping it alongside with Traktor: It's by far the best controller Iv'e ever bought. So do the right thing and sell your S4! and buy an VCI-400 EGE before they run out of stock! |
| Fady Soliman 01.04.2012 | sweet! I'm believeing of ECE because of the color and knobs but gonna hang in till the firmware is upgradable to use as a stand alone mixer and see how ppl like it. Hope it comes out soon my friend is buggin me to sell him my S4. |
| robin loo 01.04.2012 | 1) i run my normal vci at about 10ms 2) the EGE is still a normal midi controller, so yes you can customize it. DJTT is planning on releasing the EGE firmware for normal vci users to upgrade their device.. 3) i really like the controller, havent played too much with it, cause i'm still waiting for this fw release |
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