Mostapha's Setup
Mostapha's Setup Posted on: 12.12.2011 by Dorie Scelzo I started on vinyl and a gemini 2-channel mixer that came with my (used) decks. It was noisy and crap, and I threw it away after a day and got a Behringer against the advice of everyone at DJF. It had a dead channel within a day, so I returned it and got a Vestax. I don't believe I have any pictures from the early days. At least, none I can find. After a little while, vinyl got expensive. Fortunately, SSL had come out not too long before, so I tried that. First evening performing with it, something went wrong, and I was back on the little vinyl I brought and burning CDs in the booth. SSL and I never got along | |
Romelia Stankard 18.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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Romelia Stankard 18.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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Romelia Stankard 18.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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Dorie Scelzo 06.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by OmniRoss
Yes, I notice a difference. But not with DJ apps…none of them are that resource intensive. The biggest differences are with editing large collections of raw-format photos in aperture or, recently, Light Room. Firefox also runs a lot better. I still haven't seen a single page-out or any swap usage, obviously. There's some difference in Maschine & Pro Tools…but that could be just from accessing the samples & recording drive over SATA instead of FW800. Biggest changes lately have been to the non-DJ stuff. I switched desks and got a mechanical keyboard. Some stuff got re-arranged. And I still haven't found a good place for Maschine to sit. It always seems like a weird combination of being in the way when I'm not using it and not convenient enough when I am. |
Annalisa Shogren 30.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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Romelia Stankard 18.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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Johnetta Olewine 18.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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Dorie Scelzo 18.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by MaxOne
Originally Posted by DigitalQw3rty
I'm not a huge fan of the way the faders feel, but I can use them. And I like their metering. I still don't like their EQs very much. They're good at swapping bass, but that's about it. But I also don't really use EQs. When I had a xone:62, I fell in love with it's high-mid……just because it was so damn good at emphasizing or deemphasizing snare & clap grooves, which can make a lot of a difference in some of the music I spin. But even A&H abandoned it. If I could have any single EQ knob, it would be that one. If I don't have it, mostly I just don't use EQs. So, it's wasted space……but I just don't care. Really, I just believe there are much better options than paying for a Pioneer mixer. But the DDJ-SX is exactly what I need. It's just enough smaller than my decks + a decent mixer…and it's feet are in the right place so I can put it on a bookshelf and just let it hang over the edges without being afraid it'd fall off. Can't do that with turntables, even if they weren't too wide to fit. And anything deep enough to hold them wouldn't leave me enough room to stand b/t it and the bed. And when I have more space, I just plug my tables in, my SSL box if I decide to to DVS instead of software + vinyl, and keep spinning. It's got a lot of features I just don't care about. The sampler is a little weird to use in practice, but I'll probably figure out a way to do it……probably just 808 kick, snare, clap, OH, CH, and crash sounds on one side and similar Amen sounds on the other…plus maybe a couple little things. But I'd almost rather just incorporate an MPC-1000 or something in the long run. I'll never use it's slip mode or the pad loop things like the Twitch has……whatever. And Pioneer mixers have cue/master blend for the headphone signal, which is good, since I prefer to use IEMs when I'm not in my bedroom. And sometimes even then. I also can't really speak to the effects…something else I just don't really use. I really do like the way it does instant doubles, though. It makes it really easy to keep a drum break going through a breakdown that my set doesn't need, which is most of what I did when I was on Live if I'm really honest with myself. And the way it does the deck layering with the non-motorized pitch faders is way less annoying than I thought it would be. Basically, it does what I need it to do, and it does it well. I may not keep it more than 6 months or a year, but that'll be 6 months or a year of spinning when I want to instead of not spinning because I don't live with my decks. |
Arielle Posso 10.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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Francene Cafaro 08.02.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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Dorie Scelzo 08.02.2012 |
Originally Posted by icb
Originally Posted by Steeevo
Frankly, I believe the xone:22 blows. Vestax mixers |
Dorie Scelzo 06.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by OmniRoss
Yes, I notice a difference. But not with DJ apps…none of them are that resource intensive. The biggest differences are with editing large collections of raw-format photos in aperture or, recently, Light Room. Firefox also runs a lot better. I still haven't seen a single page-out or any swap usage, obviously. There's some difference in Maschine & Pro Tools…but that could be just from accessing the samples & recording drive over SATA instead of FW800. Biggest changes lately have been to the non-DJ stuff. I switched desks and got a mechanical keyboard. Some stuff got re-arranged. And I still haven't found a good place for Maschine to sit. It always seems like a weird combination of being in the way when I'm not using it and not convenient enough when I am. |
Annalisa Shogren 30.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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Dorie Scelzo 30.11.2012 | I'm liking having 16GB of RAM. Over the past few hours: |
Dorie Scelzo 27.11.2012 | I finally got around to a much needed computer update and have to brag. Still the same early-2011 13" Macbook Pro 2.3GHz dual core i5 16 GB PC1333 120GB OWC Mercury Extreme Pro SSD (system: currently just OS X, will probably have linux as well shortly) 240GB OWC Mercury Electra SSD (media: music, sample libraries, movies, VM images, etc.) And I upgraded my older, "free", monitor that made an annoying hum to a 22" LG 1920x1080 display that's basically silent and thank god matte. Also, I had some hard drive issues not too long ago that reminded me that my backups weren't as redundant as they could be, so attached to it are 2TB G-Tech G-Drive (FW800/USB3/eSATA) - Short Term Archives 2TB G-Tech G-Drive (FW800/USB2/eSATA) - Long Term Archives (stored off-site except when it gets updated) 64GB Kingston SSD (FW800/USB2/eSATA) - formerly an audio drive, now basically a jump drive, since it's using a bad controller chip. Retired: 500GB portable HDD (FW800/USB2) - Haven't used it in 6 months for anything that mattered. 320GB portable HDD (FW800/USB2) - the original drive from this MBP…I put it in a chassis and formatted it, but I don't believe it's ever had data on it. 250GB portable HDD (FW400/USB2) - Haven't actually used it in a year. 500GB desktop HDD (FW800/USB2/eSATA) - Haven't actually used it in 2 years. 120GB portable HDD (USB2) - gave it to my girlfriend for backups that she doesn't do. I'm not sure where it is. I just realized I have almost 2TB worth of hard drives that I don't use anymore. I'm with Linus Torvalds: spinning platters are Satan for everything except really big storage that doesn't get accessed very often. I also found a place to squeeze in my monitors and my SX, so I don't have to bring it out and wire it up every time I want to spin. It kind of hangs off the shelf in both the front and the back, but it works. And my cat hasn't knocked it off yet. One advantage of this is that I can't see the screen while I'm spinning, so it's more like spinning on CDJs. Not pictured are the 2i2 that I'm still using because the FW410 I have isn't worth dropping to FW400 speeds for the externals and my Maschine, which still doesn't have a permanent home. And the hard drives I actually use are in a drawer of the desk partially to get them out of the way but mostly because they're too freaking loud otherwise. I also got a wireless keyboard and a wireless track pad, entirely so they're easier to move out of the way when I use Maschine. This is what happens when I get an ear infection and half the world sounds like white noise and ringing……I can't make or play music well, so I get all the other crap that's been bugging me done. |
Romelia Stankard 18.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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Dorie Scelzo 18.11.2012 | I haven't experimented, so I don't know. But I can get it to monitor the way I want, so I'm not fussed. |
Johnetta Olewine 18.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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Dorie Scelzo 18.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by MaxOne
Originally Posted by DigitalQw3rty
I'm not a huge fan of the way the faders feel, but I can use them. And I like their metering. I still don't like their EQs very much. They're good at swapping bass, but that's about it. But I also don't really use EQs. When I had a xone:62, I fell in love with it's high-mid……just because it was so damn good at emphasizing or deemphasizing snare & clap grooves, which can make a lot of a difference in some of the music I spin. But even A&H abandoned it. If I could have any single EQ knob, it would be that one. If I don't have it, mostly I just don't use EQs. So, it's wasted space……but I just don't care. Really, I just believe there are much better options than paying for a Pioneer mixer. But the DDJ-SX is exactly what I need. It's just enough smaller than my decks + a decent mixer…and it's feet are in the right place so I can put it on a bookshelf and just let it hang over the edges without being afraid it'd fall off. Can't do that with turntables, even if they weren't too wide to fit. And anything deep enough to hold them wouldn't leave me enough room to stand b/t it and the bed. And when I have more space, I just plug my tables in, my SSL box if I decide to to DVS instead of software + vinyl, and keep spinning. It's got a lot of features I just don't care about. The sampler is a little weird to use in practice, but I'll probably figure out a way to do it……probably just 808 kick, snare, clap, OH, CH, and crash sounds on one side and similar Amen sounds on the other…plus maybe a couple little things. But I'd almost rather just incorporate an MPC-1000 or something in the long run. I'll never use it's slip mode or the pad loop things like the Twitch has……whatever. And Pioneer mixers have cue/master blend for the headphone signal, which is good, since I prefer to use IEMs when I'm not in my bedroom. And sometimes even then. I also can't really speak to the effects…something else I just don't really use. I really do like the way it does instant doubles, though. It makes it really easy to keep a drum break going through a breakdown that my set doesn't need, which is most of what I did when I was on Live if I'm really honest with myself. And the way it does the deck layering with the non-motorized pitch faders is way less annoying than I thought it would be. Basically, it does what I need it to do, and it does it well. I may not keep it more than 6 months or a year, but that'll be 6 months or a year of spinning when I want to instead of not spinning because I don't live with my decks. |
Arielle Posso 17.11.2012 | I'm interested in how the DDJ-SX preforms too. I'm considering getting it as my next controller. It looks like its really well built. |
Hipolito Scionti 17.11.2012 | I'm just surprised to see Pioneer gear at the heart of your set up... the amount of hate I seen you pour on their mixers sound and build quality... Changed your tune? How's the DDJ-SX though? Looks like a serious lovely bit of kit to me. Defo the best controller on the market IMO Shy FX has one so if it's good enough for him http://community .djranking s.com/showthread.php?t=61906 |
Dorie Scelzo 17.11.2012 | It's almost entirely a space issue. It cost about the same as the mixer I was wanting, and while it's not rotary…I just plain don't have room for my tables. And CDJs are fucking stupid. I really like spinning on them. If I started playing in clubs tomorrow, I'd bring IEMs, a CD wallet, and USB keys…and leave everything else at home. But…… I have the money. I actually thought about buying the mixer and CDJs until I realized just how many more toys I could get for the price of an Empath Rotary and 3 CDJ-2000s……like re-purchasing every single apple computer I've ever owned, including phones, with money left over. Granted, that's only since about 2006, but still. google shopping shows the price of that package at like $7000. If you've got the mics and the room already, you can get an entire HD Native (Thunderbolt) recording setup for that…including a well-spec'd iMac. It'd be a bit limited on inputs, but I do dance music. I don't need more than a couple mics at a time. I don't care how popular they are, CDJ-2000Nexuses are just plain not worth that much money. I'm sure you made similar decisions when you got into your modular synths. But, honestly, this thing…plus upgrading my sound card, getting a couple hardware synths, looking into a couple decent mics, buying a new computer and a new guitar amp seemed like a better deal. Unfortunately, none of it is going to happen until I have more space. My KRKs aren't even setup right now. |
Romelia Stankard 16.11.2012 | heh never expected to see you back on a controller. it does look nice though. |
Dorie Scelzo 12.11.2012 | I never did get around to the RAM upgrade, though I'm starting to feel it. Firefox is a freaking ridiculous RAM hog, and running VMs is taxing. But, I'm also very close to replacing the computer with a new iMac (when they come out) and possibly a Macbook Air, because I'm getting sick of carrying this brick of a 13" laptop around. The only thing really stopping me is that I'm considering running Linux on a PC netbook/laptop instead of the Air. I probably wouldn't get enough selling my MBP for it to be worth selling, and I can use that for DJing. The only real concern is that I have no idea where to look for a PC with a max 11" screen that's high resolution, has a quad-core i7, and will take a SandForce SSD and 16GB of ram with wireless and audio that works under Linux. I'm really just worried about fitting the iMac and the DDJ-SX on that desk. Though I suppose I could find space for it somewhere else if I had to……unfortunately, my Technics are just too big no matter what I do. Also, I bought a DDJ-SX because I moved in with my girlfriend, and we don't have the space for my decks. Current DJ Setup: Production setup hasn't changed except that once I finish a coding project I'm working on, I might be upgrading to Mountain Lion, PT 10.3, and Maschine 1.8. But I might just wait for the computer buys first. Oh, and I believe I'm over 5TB of storage now. I had a 2TB drive get corrupted in the process of fixing a friend's Windows computer that had a really bad virus infection (despite using a VM that I thought was appropriately sandboxed). I got the data back, but I decided that what I had wasn't redundant enough. Also, I've discovered that Time Machine still blows, so I'm moving back to doing backups with rsync. Apparently CLI-only software from 1996 works better than Apple's awesome "all you need" backup software. |
Arielle Posso 10.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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Dorie Scelzo 21.05.2012 | So, apparently Maschine's manual tempo adjustment kinda sucks for keeping up with vinyl fluctuations. And Bridge requires beat grids or a 3rd deck. Whatever. Still having more fun DJing the old fashioned way. Only changes lately have been to the production setup.
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Chas Giraldez 13.02.2012 | I'd buy an ecler nuo 2.0 over a xone 22 any day |
Francene Cafaro 08.02.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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Dorie Scelzo 08.02.2012 |
Originally Posted by icb
Originally Posted by Steeevo
Frankly, I believe the xone:22 blows. Vestax mixers |
Inez Marcinik 08.02.2012 | Good choice moving to a TT setup, iv recently done the same. I find it interesting the phases people go through from fully digital to more of a traditionalist approach and vice versa. |
Keli Muennink 08.02.2012 | No the xone's sound quality is a lot better if all you want is a solid built 2 channel mixer |
Sherry Nyblom 08.02.2012 | Would you say vmx-004 xl is a good mixer, sound and build quality-wise, compared to xone series (or specifically xone:22)? |
Dorie Scelzo 06.02.2012 | Good enough, so far. Technically speaking, it's just not that good of a card anymore: 16/44.1 with prosumer level converters and circuitry (at best). It's probably the crappiest audio interface I've ever bought. But |
Romelia Stankard 06.02.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
How are you finding the SL1 sound quality wise? |
Dorie Scelzo 06.02.2012 | 3 weeks ago: Today: The change from a xone to a budget vestax might look dumb, but I'm going back to mixing with IEMs and the 62s cuing system isn't right for that. Plus |
Dorie Scelzo 15.12.2011 | No. Not really |
Cristi Sucha 13.12.2011 | Wow, I've always wanted to know Mostapha's setup. (this is where I would put some sort of smiley but the ones here at DJTT are weird....I want DJF back) Your interesting and long read led me to the conclusion that you wasted a lot of money on crap/unwanted gear but ultimately shaped where you are today in your setup. Am I right? |
Keli Muennink 13.12.2011 | My first choice would be a used PMC-55, PMC-CX, xone:92R, or a Rane Empath, but I'd take a PMC-17A That was my first mixer, i still have it lying around somewhere |
Dorie Scelzo 13.12.2011 | The X1s. One of them controls decks A and B as track decks, the other controls C and D as sample decks, both using something close to the default mapping. The X1s are brilliant and insanely cheap for what they are. The knobs feel great, but they're meant to control effects, not decks. I'm not sure what you'd use them for unless you wanted a pitch fader or something |
Wanita Knudson 12.12.2011 | Are you using the X1's or the Maschine to control the decks? I was trying to figure out a cheap way around CDJs...I don't exactly like the bulkyness(?) of them and knew that you could control decks with the X1, or I could map the decks to something...but they seemed like they might be a little obnoxious to deal with the small knobs... |
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