Traktor 2.5: Kontrol F1 Ipad Lemur mapping... Of course!
Traktor 2.5: Kontrol F1 Ipad Lemur mapping... Of course! Posted on: 26.03.2012 by Matthew Yanagisawa Im loving the F1 but not the prospect of RGASing this out of impulse. I believe I could make the F1 on Lemur and see how it fits in sets. If I get to love it, even better with tactile feel but if not well nothing lol. By now a lot of folk should have some midi controllers around to map this. So, are you getting the F1 day 1, or mapping to some other device or just nothing? | |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 25.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by Forevernow
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| Timothy Sallay 26.05.2012 | Lemur file and TSI(s), now ready and up on the liine site.. full info here.. http://community .djranking s.com/showthread.php?t=52674 |
| Timothy Sallay 26.05.2012 | good point.. would believe that the slight difference in timing of presses would be enough but will need to test.. |
| Wilhelmina Notermann 26.05.2012 | One more question: can you trigger multiples samples at once? Lemur won't have aproblem with this, but i can imagine your OS won't understand multiples mouse actions at the same moment. |
| Timothy Sallay 26.05.2012 | yep - Lemur on iphone works exactly the same way.. the layout im building wont fit, but the script commands will be identical. iphone a bit small to be usefull to me, but depending on how you need to use the decks might work for you.. joe |
| Wilhelmina Notermann 26.05.2012 | Joe, that's awesome! I'd love to see a video of this when your ready to play. By the way, I'm on a windows laptop, and I have an iPhone. I should be able to get this same thing up and running, right? |
| Timothy Sallay 26.05.2012 | Spent the the morning working on this, and have got it working.. all 4 pages of 16 remix decks slots directly controllable, using lemurs scripting commands on custom buttons. if you want to try, you need to add a "Daemon KBMOUSE out", select "mouse and keyboard", and map to you lemur. Create custom button object, (ive set midi to output none), then create a script, ( i sugest named for the remix button you want to control ( ive used naming convention "left_R1_C1", "left_R1_C2" etc for left deck, row1, Cell1) , then use the following commands mouseout(0,26,499); clickout(0,0,1); clickout(0,0,0); mouseout 26,499 are the x/y coordinates on the screen, 0 being the daemon output you created earlier, clickout sends a mouse click and a release of the mouse button in two separate lines. On a 1280x800 monitor (osx macbook), This will click (and release the mouse button) on the 4the cell in remix deck 1. Of course this will depend on you layout and resolution ( in this build I have a+b as small track decks/ C+D as advance remix decks). On a mac the shortcut CMD+Shift+4 will switch your mousepointer to show x/y coordinate on the screen. Hard to read unless you switch the display to use "white-on-black" in preferences ( via universal access) I'm 75% of the way complete with the lemur setup for a single F1 emulator+ tsi (for deck 3), hope to finish by tomorrow and will distribute the beta via the Liine site when its working, and provide a link here, and on the mappings section. cheers joe |
| Timothy Sallay 25.05.2012 | ah - no gesture object on the IOS version of Lemur.. hmm. plan b. KBMOUSE is listed in the IOS manual, so may still be possible. |
| Timothy Sallay 25.05.2012 | yeah.. the KBMOUSE command is mentioned in a thread on the jazzmutant community , used with gesture..I need to th RTFM. Scripts in Lemur are still beyond my skills |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 25.05.2012 | didn't realise the lemur software could move the mouse to a certain location and then click etc - thats the only reason i mentioned neededing extra software - pretty cool if it can do that i guess this is the kind of thing people have used http://www.autohotkey.com/ in the past. looks possible from looking at their home page:
Mouse and keyboard control
Still finding yourself reaching over to the computer during your live show? Not any more! Now Lemur's objects can be used to remotely control the mouse cursor or computer keyboard. |
| Timothy Sallay 25.05.2012 | Zestoi, yes thats exactly what i was believeing.. i always run Traktor Full screen, so buttons would always be in the same place, have done a little reading on Lemurs mouse implementation and its seems viable. Not sure why you would need extra software for the automation though ?, if Lemur can select the correct app to focus on it would act exactly as a mouse + keyboard which i believe can control the new decks. All theory at this point, but if anything can do it a lemur can |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 25.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by Forevernow
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| Timothy Sallay 25.05.2012 | As the Lemur can send keyboard and mouse commands out from custom buttons, im hoping someone with more lemur skills than i will be able to get around the midi limitations imposed by NI.. will give it a go when i get time. |
| Matthew Yanagisawa 31.03.2012 | For the Lemur F1 mapping it will not be 1:1. Im not sure if if would be better to have the ipad vertical or horizontal for this. So far since I have the Mac on my right and the S4 in the middle, the ipad would be on the left. So the lower right would have the remix section and to the left the faders. Then on top, the global section top left and knobs top right. The point is to have the most used stuff near and the least farther away. There are several configurations to try before settling for a final version. Also there are things that are redundant and can be omitted from the design. Browse, sync and quant are superfluous having the S4 so we get a bit more real state. Whatever other non vital function could be added with a shift. So far the remix section would require most of the work in regards of how many LEDs does that thing really have per button?! I would still need the thing released to check further logistics from LEDs to how it simply would fit in my [trying to keep t simple] setup. |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 28.03.2012 | what 4 notes? if u mean the ones created for super combo's then u can just use an older version of the instant grat tsi (if u wanted IG ofc) |
| Ashly Romney 28.03.2012 | Any one had any luck emulating a midi figther on a lemur? I was able to map about 95% of it, but the midifighter producers 4 midi notes that the lemur cannot pick up and I have yet to figure out a workaround. |
| Joesph Kasian 28.03.2012 | I'll be buying it on release day, even though I've only recently got the bug (Macbook Pro, S4, TP2) I'm ready to basically rape my bank account with whatever goodies I need to get my set-up when I need it to be. Even if it's just to use here and there through a set I believe it's worth the investment, thats what I like about NI gear ; affordable. |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 28.03.2012 | no assumption needed, NI has stated that it will be a free upgrade. |
| Larraine Hannum 28.03.2012 | Assuming that Traktor 2.5 is a free upgrade, I would like to test out the new sample decks virtually first before deciding if the controller is required or not. But comming from someone who has already purchased the X1, S4 and Maschine, Native Instruments hasn't done me wronge yet. |
| Lilliana Perris 28.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
Wicked! I believe I should attempt it myself as well. Need to get better at it. |
| Viola Jardel 28.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
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| Chasidy Heckenbach 27.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by sarasin
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| Nedra Fresneda 27.03.2012 | Wasn't may 30 the release date? |
| nayit ruiz jaramillo 27.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by anteater32
They are wrong or lying to get your pre-order. |
| Stanley Peckman 27.03.2012 | Does anybody know the whats going on with delivery? Official release date is 31st May but several websites are advertising F1's available from the 31st of March. I want the F1, but want to update the current software on my Dell via the service centre release and keep the bundled version for when I get a new macbook but two months of a gap is a long time...... |
| Lilliana Perris 27.03.2012 | I want to try and emulate the F1 on my APC80. Got the pads...the Faders...and engage buttons. Need EXTREME MAPPING! |
| Nedra Fresneda 26.03.2012 | As a smaller setup if i don't feel like taking the S4 out (might sell it, not sure yet) so it would be 2 k2 + saffire pro 14. I could throw the ipad in there but i don't believe i'm missing much without it.
Originally Posted by JamesN
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| Chasidy Heckenbach 26.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by padi_04
to be a total clone i guess you'd need a 7x4 grid of buttons tho? i'm hoping that by using a launchpad the top two rows (7 buttons i believe on the F1) can be shared by both virtual F1's so i can use a 8x6 grid to emulate two F1's leaving a 8x2 grid for the sequencer i'm coding for midimasher that will let me program live beats using traktor (one button per channel for 'record mode' on/off and one for 'sequence play' on/off) ofc there's plenty of other buttons on the k2... was only considering the actual 4x4 grid for some reason... |
| Nedra Fresneda 26.03.2012 | Mapping it to a pair of K2s once i can get my hands on them |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 26.03.2012 | ah fair enough... i really need to get on the ios band wagon sometime. trying to work out if i can justify an ipad or just pick up an ipod touch or something. way too much cheap and cool software coming out at the moment... |
| Ashly Romney 26.03.2012 | Of course, I am referring to one that controls sample decks and the like |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 26.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by JamesN
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| Ashly Romney 26.03.2012 | @Quenepas: got a good lemur template for traktor 2 already? |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 26.03.2012 | assuming they make available all the stuff to midi map then i'm going to write some logic in midimasher to turn my launchpad and nanokontrol into two virtual F1's. not full rgb ofc but apart from that should be able to function the same i hope. i'd just be lacking an encoder - so might have to use two buttons to emulate that. i may well get an F1 further down the line but there's so many other cool controllers coming out too i want to wait for feedback from actual use of them all before i drop more cash on something. |
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