Calvin Harris
and Dillon Francis
worked there... no way!
| How long does it take you to plan, practice, and record a mix? I was just asked to do 15 minute mix by a DJ friend of mine who wants to send it to this local promotional agency sort of thing, mainly EDM. This means in 15 minutes i need to show off a bunch of genres, at my best mixing, etc. I'm going from House to Dubstep to DnB to Hip-Hop/Rap to Moombah, so a lot planning is sort of required
I've been working on it everyday for about 4 days now, and am just now finishing up finalizing the tracklist, and will soon begin the process of planning each transition, making revisions here and there, practicing, and then finally recording. Hell I'll spend 30 minutes to an hour just trying to find the perfect mix between 2 songs.
He messages me today like, are you done yet, and I told him that I am only just about to finish track planning, he was sort of surprised I wasn't finished yet, and it always takes me this long to make a mix. I thought as I got better i would be quicker at it, but as I get better I only get more creative with it, so the time it takes hasn't changed much at all haha..
So, 4 days of mixing, a couple hours each day, only just now finishing up a tracklist.
Am I just really slow? Or is this just the time it takes to create a solid, good sounding mix. | Dorie Scelzo
13.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
What was the question again?
I believe it was something about how pictures of kittens help people grow as individuals without having to interact directly with another human being. | Matt Kane
13.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
What was the question again?
"how long does it take to derail a thread big time?" | Dorie Scelzo
13.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by ellgieff
There's nothing high class about actual Art, and it's the bullshit idea that there is something special, or high brow, or elitist about art that separates it from non-art that really bugs me. Bear in mind: you're the one suggesting art is special. Not me.
Thanks for the support, and I feel this is 100% on for Art.
The worst "art" I see is from people trying to make art…the best stuff often doesn't feel like art to the creator because it's just what they do.
I could talk all day…bunch of wishy-washy crap about how good art stems from the creative energy of the universe or how it's actually tied to who the creator is instead of something they actively sought to make……but it's kind of call crap.
I believe I'd sum it up like this: there's an obvious skill level difference, but if you can't see that a 6 year old's spontaneous drawing of his family in crayon on the living room wall is more similar to the Mona Lisa than high-brow, soho, hipster douche paintings of "artistic" shit…then you probably make the later.
Art is not necessarily beautiful or even necessarily meaningful…but it is not an end unto itself.
And forcing yourself to do something like these 15-minute mixes (if you're an underground dance music DJ) is a lot closer to just being a hipster douche. If a promoter's only going to spend 2-3 minutes on your demo…15 is wasted anyway. Show him your facebook artist page, and if you have enough fans, maybe you'll move on to a discussion of music policy. | Celestine Porebski
13.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by dj matt blaze
I have lived and worked in the New York/New Jersey area my entire life. I am not just forming my opinion because this is what I believe, this is what I have seen, I have seen a bar owner from a downtown village bar take my 60 min mix, put it in his laptop and thumb through the entire thing in 2 min. They look for song selection, and will this music keep people in the bar buying more drinks spending their money. I have seen club owners listen to 5-10 min and move on to another in the stack. I will agree that if it is a spcialized genre that a promoter will listen to more and really be listening to how you transition and mix. Again if you don't like the way they do things and you are happy playing your way to your bedroom walls most of the time, more power to you. I am more than happy being an open format DJ playing top 40 remixes, disco, classic rock, old hip hop, whatever and I take my love of mixing, beatmatching, loops, effects and apply it to that to stand apart from the masses who just hit play and move a crossfader. I can mix anything.
Dude, maybe you should acknowledge that you're alking about something completely different than most of the other people in this thread. The whole mobile DJ thing and the underground club scene are just two pair of shoes with not much common ground between them. Your statements might well be true for the open format/mobile DJ world, I don't know - and frankly I don't care (as it's nothing I would ever be interested in doing). But don't speak for the club scene. It might be a bit of a moot point talking about the length of promo mixes for those underground gigs - as most of the booking is not done based on listening to promo mixes but rather having seen the DJ in question play somewhere, but if promo mixes would come into play, I don't believe any promoter worth anything at all would ask for something as bizarre and pointless as a 15min-"mix".
(P.S. Please don't take this the wrong way, but what is up with your website? It looks like a flashback to crappy late 90ies Geocities pages - I'd even believe you were a very elaborate troll, if your postings on here didn't seem sincere) | Latoria Kavulich
14.06.2012 |
- how long does it take you to plan, practice, and record a mix?
Usually i will spend an evening going through some tunes and putting a basic playlist together. Most of my mixes are CD length so once my playlist is pretty much finallised i may do 2 timed runs before 1 or 2 hot runs. | Alla Bluemke
14.06.2012 | Thats the majority of promoters I know, they all thumb through dj sets. Even me when I book my evening
s I thumb through cause the majority of people are mixing A to B and intro to outro. Very few people actually try to be crazy and innovative in their CDs, most DJs I see are pretty conservative about their mixes, so because of that I thumb through and listen to songs and transitions. When somebody is going crazy with mixing, I listen to it fully, but decide whether its actually good and skillful or the person has ADD and is terrible.
I still personally believe about 30 min mix is enough to your point and sound across. | Onie Sarandos
14.06.2012 | Honestly, I find it hard to believe that most club/bar owners have the time to listen to 3-5 hours of mixes a day, but maybe I'm wrong. Anyone that does is awesome. Maybe someone might skip through your hour mix, but to listen to every second of every mix that's submitted to them? That's a tall order. Assuming all they will do is skip through the mix and listen to a half an hour total, how is that terribly different from them asking for and you handing them a 1/2 selection of your hour mix?
Granted, the last two gigs I've booked (one of which is regular), and most of them really, I did not submit any abbreviated mixes, but just directed the promoter/DJ/etc., to my soundcloud page anyway. | Dorie Scelzo
13.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
What was the question again?
I believe it was something about how pictures of kittens help people grow as individuals without having to interact directly with another human being. | Matt Kane
13.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
What was the question again?
"how long does it take to derail a thread big time?" | Leeanna Ayla
13.06.2012 | What was the question again? | Roseanna Signorini
13.06.2012 |
I was just asked to do 15 minute mix by a DJ friend of mine who wants to send it to this local promotional agency sort of thing, mainly EDM. This means in 15 minutes i need to show off a bunch of genres, at my best mixing, etc. I'm going from House to Dubstep to DnB to Hip-Hop/Rap to Moombah, so a lot planning is sort of required
Dude, maybe you should acknowledge that you're alking about something completely different than most of the other people in this thread. The whole mobile DJ thing and the underground club scene are just two pair of shoes with not much common ground between them
I put the original post up there for you to read again unless you believe House, Dubstep, DnB is still underground, dude.
Your statements might well be true for the open format/mobile DJ world, I don't know - and frankly I don't care (as it's nothing I would ever be interested in doing). But don't speak for the club scene.
As usual, the condescending snobby DJ attitude that every other form of DJing besides the type of DJ I am is beneath me.
(P.S. Please don't take this the wrong way, but what is up with your website? It looks like a flashback to crappy late 90ies Geocities pages - I'd even believe you were a very elaborate troll, if your postings on here didn't seem sincere)
If you want to have a debate, even a heated debate about the topic in the thread, I'm all for that, thats kool. Lets agree, lets disagree lets agree to disagree. The above statement about my website as part of your post is just designed to try to publicly humiliate me, to drive others to look at my site to see how "crappy late 90's geocities" it is, thats all that statement was designed to do. You could have just as easily PMed me but you wanted everyone to see it so no matter how you preface it with "Please don't take this the wrong way" this is nothing but total disrespect and its not appreciated regardless of how simple looking my website is. | Teresia Janusch
13.06.2012 | i did a mix for a mates radio show last week, only 20mins long, it took me 20mins to do....and was broadcast on sunday past in Belfast | Brunilda Kora
13.06.2012 | I am a strong believer that you don't make art - it happens through you. You just have to make yourself available to the creativity in the universe...
[EDIT: I'm not religous, or a hippy...] | Dorie Scelzo
13.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by ellgieff
There's nothing high class about actual Art, and it's the bullshit idea that there is something special, or high brow, or elitist about art that separates it from non-art that really bugs me. Bear in mind: you're the one suggesting art is special. Not me.
Thanks for the support, and I feel this is 100% on for Art.
The worst "art" I see is from people trying to make art…the best stuff often doesn't feel like art to the creator because it's just what they do.
I could talk all day…bunch of wishy-washy crap about how good art stems from the creative energy of the universe or how it's actually tied to who the creator is instead of something they actively sought to make……but it's kind of call crap.
I believe I'd sum it up like this: there's an obvious skill level difference, but if you can't see that a 6 year old's spontaneous drawing of his family in crayon on the living room wall is more similar to the Mona Lisa than high-brow, soho, hipster douche paintings of "artistic" shit…then you probably make the later.
Art is not necessarily beautiful or even necessarily meaningful…but it is not an end unto itself.
And forcing yourself to do something like these 15-minute mixes (if you're an underground dance music DJ) is a lot closer to just being a hipster douche. If a promoter's only going to spend 2-3 minutes on your demo…15 is wasted anyway. Show him your facebook artist page, and if you have enough fans, maybe you'll move on to a discussion of music policy. | Celestine Porebski
13.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by dj matt blaze
I have lived and worked in the New York/New Jersey area my entire life. I am not just forming my opinion because this is what I believe, this is what I have seen, I have seen a bar owner from a downtown village bar take my 60 min mix, put it in his laptop and thumb through the entire thing in 2 min. They look for song selection, and will this music keep people in the bar buying more drinks spending their money. I have seen club owners listen to 5-10 min and move on to another in the stack. I will agree that if it is a spcialized genre that a promoter will listen to more and really be listening to how you transition and mix. Again if you don't like the way they do things and you are happy playing your way to your bedroom walls most of the time, more power to you. I am more than happy being an open format DJ playing top 40 remixes, disco, classic rock, old hip hop, whatever and I take my love of mixing, beatmatching, loops, effects and apply it to that to stand apart from the masses who just hit play and move a crossfader. I can mix anything.
Dude, maybe you should acknowledge that you're alking about something completely different than most of the other people in this thread. The whole mobile DJ thing and the underground club scene are just two pair of shoes with not much common ground between them. Your statements might well be true for the open format/mobile DJ world, I don't know - and frankly I don't care (as it's nothing I would ever be interested in doing). But don't speak for the club scene. It might be a bit of a moot point talking about the length of promo mixes for those underground gigs - as most of the booking is not done based on listening to promo mixes but rather having seen the DJ in question play somewhere, but if promo mixes would come into play, I don't believe any promoter worth anything at all would ask for something as bizarre and pointless as a 15min-"mix".
(P.S. Please don't take this the wrong way, but what is up with your website? It looks like a flashback to crappy late 90ies Geocities pages - I'd even believe you were a very elaborate troll, if your postings on here didn't seem sincere) | Lina Rawie
12.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by ellgieff
Art is a term for art. I'm not trying to legitimise _anything_ because it doesn't need to be legitimised to anyone except myself.
There's nothing high class about actual Art, and it's the bullshit idea that there is something special, or high brow, or elitist about art that separates it from non-art that really bugs me. Bear in mind: you're the one suggesting art is special. Not me.
This post is 100% on point IMO. | Roseanna Signorini
12.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by ellgieff
Right, now you're just being offensive. Art is a term for art. I'm not trying to legitimise _anything_ because it doesn't need to be legitimised to anyone except myself. Bullshit yuppie? Shall we trade insults? Let's not, you're not worth the effort.
There's nothing high class about actual Art, and it's the bullshit idea that there is something special, or high brow, or elitist about art that separates it from non-art that really bugs me. Bear in mind: you're the one suggesting art is special. Not me.
Once again: I understand what you're saying. I know it to be true. And if I had my choice, every single one of those kind of club/bar owners (or the promoters to those kinds of clubs/bars) would get pancreatic cancer. Mostly because it's an extremely painful way to die.
There's a Bill Hicks bit that sums this up, but I'm at work and Youtube is blocked. Let's just say that I now agree with what Mostapha said: you're part of the problem with the modern music industry.
I wasn't trying to insult you, thats my opinion, agree, disagree, its all good. If everyone in the world had the same opinion this place would be boring. The thing is...art is special, thats why its art, otherwise everything would be art. I guess you could say what is special to you is "your art" My point is just that the term is now used for everything which means the word has lost its meaning, But I get what 'you're saying. I'm not trying to be mean. I am open minded, always, have been, I embrace all musical styles and genres, (well most) and I don't put down anything or anyone for their likings. Wanting club owners to get pancreatic cancer for not listening to a 60 min mix is a little harsh, no?
As for me being part of the problem? Quite the opposite. More than half the people that get a DAW that know jack about music and call themself a producer is the problem. I come from the old school when I had a 4 track, a drum machine, a sequencer, a keyboard with like 6 sounds on it and was creating, and having to bounce tracks for more space and buying some crappy reverb from radio shack just to have some kind of effect, I lived through and did all that. SO believe me when I say, I am far from any problem. | Rosenda Gossage
12.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by dj matt blaze
I was just making the point that is what promoters/club owners believe about "your art". I was speaking as a promoter would. With that said, I started making remixes on a sharp dual casette deck when I was 14, I am also a video editor, a drummer, DJ and beatmaker. I believe of myself as artistic but to be honest would never refer to anything I have done as "art". Reason being, art is a bullshit yuppie term that somehow is supposed to lend some validation and credibility that DJing is something so high class to be called "art". Everything under the sun can be called art. The art of playing poker, the art of making a sandwich, its BS. Notice I used the term "beatmaker". Now everyone under the sun is a "producer", another load of crap. It takes very little skill to program a basic beat on a drum machine and add a bassline. Real producing is a lot more involved.
I have lived and worked in the New York/New Jersey area my entire life. I am not just forming my opinion because this is what I believe, this is what I have seen, I have seen a bar owner from a downtown village bar take my 60 min mix, put it in his laptop and thumb through the entire thing in 2 min. They look for song selection, and will this music keep people in the bar buying more drinks spending their money. I have seen club owners listen to 5-10 min and move on to another in the stack. I will agree that if it is a spcialized genre that a promoter will listen to more and really be listening to how you transition and mix. Again if you don't like the way they do things and you are happy playing your way to your bedroom walls most of the time, more power to you. I am more than happy being an open format DJ playing top 40 remixes, disco, classic rock, old hip hop, whatever and I take my love of mixing, beatmatching, loops, effects and apply it to that to stand apart from the masses who just hit play and move a crossfader. I can mix anything.
Right, now you're just being offensive. Art is a term for art. I'm not trying to legitimise _anything_ because it doesn't need to be legitimised to anyone except myself. Bullshit yuppie? Shall we trade insults? Let's not, you're not worth the effort.
There's nothing high class about actual Art, and it's the bullshit idea that there is something special, or high brow, or elitist about art that separates it from non-art that really bugs me. Bear in mind: you're the one suggesting art is special. Not me.
Once again: I understand what you're saying. I know it to be true. And if I had my choice, every single one of those kind of club/bar owners (or the promoters to those kinds of clubs/bars) would get pancreatic cancer. Mostly because it's an extremely painful way to die.
There's a Bill Hicks bit that sums this up, but I'm at work and Youtube is blocked. Let's just say that I now agree with what Mostapha said: you're part of the problem with the modern music industry. | Roseanna Signorini
12.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by ellgieff
I get that it's the reality. I didn't disagree with it. I made the exact point you're making.
*shrugs* The hundreds of people who listen to me spinning live on nsbradio every week appreciate my art. I was about ready to spark up at the "it's not really art" quotes you put around "your art", and then I thought: wait, why do I care what you believe about me?
If you want to be the sort of slut that sucks promoter cock to get a shitty gig playing for people who don't care, more power to you. I want to be the sort of slut that plays great music to an audience of people who appreciate what I put into it.
Let's try that again: yes, this means I don't get to play those kinds of bars. I'm OK with that.
*edit: for clarity*
I was just making the point that is what promoters/club owners believe about "your art". I was speaking as a promoter would. With that said, I started making remixes on a sharp dual casette deck when I was 14, I am also a video editor, a drummer, DJ and beatmaker. I believe of myself as artistic but to be honest would never refer to anything I have done as "art". Reason being, art is a bullshit yuppie term that somehow is supposed to lend some validation and credibility that DJing is something so high class to be called "art". Everything under the sun can be called art. The art of playing poker, the art of making a sandwich, its BS. Notice I used the term "beatmaker". Now everyone under the sun is a "producer", another load of crap. It takes very little skill to program a basic beat on a drum machine and add a bassline. Real producing is a lot more involved.
I have lived and worked in the New York/New Jersey area my entire life. I am not just forming my opinion because this is what I believe, this is what I have seen, I have seen a bar owner from a downtown village bar take my 60 min mix, put it in his laptop and thumb through the entire thing in 2 min. They look for song selection, and will this music keep people in the bar buying more drinks spending their money. I have seen club owners listen to 5-10 min and move on to another in the stack. I will agree that if it is a spcialized genre that a promoter will listen to more and really be listening to how you transition and mix. Again if you don't like the way they do things and you are happy playing your way to your bedroom walls most of the time, more power to you. I am more than happy being an open format DJ playing top 40 remixes, disco, classic rock, old hip hop, whatever and I take my love of mixing, beatmatching, loops, effects and apply it to that to stand apart from the masses who just hit play and move a crossfader. I can mix anything. | Rosenda Gossage
12.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by dj matt blaze
I understand the believeing but the club owner/promoter doesn't give a crap about "your art", doesn't care to learn about it, and will not waste an hour of their time to hear your 60 min journey of a mix. That is the reality, agree, disagree, like it or not, this is the reality. The club owner/promoter is not going to lose sleep that you don't agree with their way. I will say it again, the venue is not there for you, you are there for the venue. The industry is what it is, the twats that you speak of care about the money, and they would tell you, let the 4 walls in your bedroom appreciate "your art".
I get that it's the reality. I didn't disagree with it. I made the exact point you're making.
*shrugs* The hundreds of people who listen to me spinning live on nsbradio every week appreciate my art. I was about ready to spark up at the "it's not really art" quotes you put around "your art", and then I thought: wait, why do I care what you believe about me?
If you want to be the sort of slut that sucks promoter cock to get a shitty gig playing for people who don't care, more power to you. I want to be the sort of slut that plays great music to an audience of people who appreciate what I put into it.
Let's try that again: yes, this means I don't get to play those kinds of bars. I'm OK with that.
*edit: for clarity* | Lashawn Maycock
12.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by JasonBay
Well, like I said, when I was running/promoting my club I did care and I did listen to full mixes and I know a lot of other promoters in the area who do as well.
Kind of blows that theory out of the water
Originally Posted by JasonBay
But I was also running a club and promoting it at the same time. Does being a DJ make me any less of a manager and a promoter?
And another one here, I've run/promoted evening
s and agree with this - being a DJ has no bearing on the ability to act as a promoter. I would argue it helps.
Originally Posted by mostapha
And a lot of DJs have run evening
s and owned clubs……that's how the first rock star DJs got famous. Hell, that's how garage and house started……clubs that cared about the DJ's music.
You can ignore that if you want, and you can put up with bullshit promoters who don't care about music if you want too……but you're a part of what's wrong with the scene……unless of course you actually like top40 remixes and real DJs getting kicked off the decks for not playing crap.
Agree, yep, definitely.
Originally Posted by 3heads
True, but consider this: the good+succesful clubs are usually run by people from the scene, I'd say it's quite unlikely that nobody with at least some DJing experience (or a fundamental understanding of DJing) is involved. And of course the booking isn't always done by the club itself but rather by different promoters doing their evening
s there. In any case, a gig where you have to send in a 15min mix to apply for is probably not worth playing (as has been said before by a bunch of different people in this thread)
Absolutely. | Celestine Porebski
13.06.2012 | True, but consider this: the good+succesful clubs are usually run by people from the scene, I'd say it's quite unlikely that nobody with at least some DJing experience (or a fundamental understanding of DJing) is involved. And of course the booking isn't always done by the club itself but rather by different promoters doing their evening
s there. In any case, a gig where you have to send in a 15min mix to apply for is probably not worth playing (as has been said before by a bunch of different people in this thread) | Dorie Scelzo
13.06.2012 | And a lot of DJs have run evening
s and owned clubs……that's how the first rock star DJs got famous. Hell, that's how garage and house started……clubs that cared about the DJ's music.
You can ignore that if you want, and you can put up with bullshit promoters who don't care about music if you want too……but you're a part of what's wrong with the scene……unless of course you actually like top40 remixes and real DJs getting kicked off the decks for not playing crap. | Leeanna Ayla
13.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by JasonBay
But I was also running a club and promoting it at the same time. Does being a DJ make me any less of a manager and a promoter?
It makes you look at things differently than someone who is not a DJ. | Georgina Schatzman
12.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by dj matt blaze
But you are a DJ.
But I was also running a club and promoting it at the same time. Does being a DJ make me any less of a manager and a promoter? | Nedra Fresneda
12.06.2012 | I don't plan and practice a mix, specially a 15min one. | Roseanna Signorini
12.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by JasonBay
Well, like I said, when I was running/promoting my club I did care and I did listen to full mixes and I know a lot of other promoters in the area who do as well.
Kind of blows that theory out of the water
But you are a DJ. | Georgina Schatzman
12.06.2012 | Well, like I said, when I was running/promoting my club I did care and I did listen to full mixes and I know a lot of other promoters in the area who do as well.
Kind of blows that theory out of the water | Roseanna Signorini
12.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by ellgieff
I could fit 6 tracks in 15 minutes. It wouldn't be anything like the best of what I can do.
*shrugs* I'd rather not play for a bar owner or promoter who insisted on a 15 minute mix to determine whether he wants to book me or not. Because that person doesn't have the faintest clue what my art is about, and won't take the time to learn.
It doesn't tell them anything at all about how I'd mix live.
It tells me a lot about them as a club and/or promoter. It tells me they're the sort of "industry" twats that I wouldn't cross the road to urinate on if they were on fire and screaming.
Yes, this means I don't get to play at those kinds of evening
s. I can live with that.
I understand the believeing but the club owner/promoter doesn't give a crap about "your art", doesn't care to learn about it, and will not waste an hour of their time to hear your 60 min journey of a mix. That is the reality, agree, disagree, like it or not, this is the reality. The club owner/promoter is not going to lose sleep that you don't agree with their way. I will say it again, the venue is not there for you, you are there for the venue. The industry is what it is, the twats that you speak of care about the money, and they would tell you, let the 4 walls in your bedroom appreciate "your art". | Dorie Scelzo
12.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by JasonBay
Nopes, I'm in the Midwest and Mostapha is from ATL if I remember right. That's about as American as it gets I'd say
Yep. But despite being a city of 5 million (metro area | Lina Rawie
12.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by rgtb
is there an atlantic divide on this issue? it seems most US-based posters argue that promoters want the promo tapes to be short and sweet, whereas most Europe-based posters suggest to hit promoters with longer promo tapes.
Americans have no attention span. | Leeanna Ayla
12.06.2012 | I don't practice. | Matt Kane
12.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by JasonBay
You = pimp.
i | Georgina Schatzman
12.06.2012 | With that being said, I honestly can't believe of the last time I made a mix now that I believe about it | Georgina Schatzman
12.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Ed Paris
i never ever made a mixtape for a promoter and still got plenty of gigs
You = pimp. | Matt Kane
12.06.2012 | i never ever made a mixtape for a promoter and still got plenty of gigs | Georgina Schatzman
12.06.2012 | Nopes, I'm in the Midwest and Mostapha is from ATL if I remember right. That's about as American as it gets I'd say | Lashawn Maycock
12.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by ellgieff
I could fit 6 tracks in 15 minutes. It wouldn't be anything like the best of what I can do.
*shrugs* I'd rather not play for a bar owner or promoter who insisted on a 15 minute mix to determine whether he wants to book me or not. Because that person doesn't have the faintest clue what my art is about, and won't take the time to learn.
It doesn't tell them anything at all about how I'd mix live.
It tells me a lot about them as a club and/or promoter. It tells me they're the sort of "industry" twats that I wouldn't cross the road to urinate on if they were on fire and screaming.
Yes, this means I don't get to play at those kinds of evening
s. I can live with that.
Right on, I'm with this! | Golden Faubert
11.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Mark Bastian
hehehehehe
that is some scary sh*t!! 4:10 was enough for me to need to sleep with the light on!! | Lina Rawie
11.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by ellgieff
It tells me a lot about them as a club and/or promoter. It tells me they're the sort of "industry" twats that I wouldn't cross the road to urinate on if they were on fire and screaming.
A good promo mix for me is one where the DJ has recorded it live (which is a must IMO) and has some time to breathe in terms of music/technique. 15 minutes isn't enough. If I ran a club I'd want 30-60 minute mixes and I'd listen to them all the way through, because I wouldn't want to stifle the DJ, I'd want something more representative of what they'd do in the club, and I'd feel it's worth taking the time to listen because I can then pick the best man/woman for the job. But I guess that's because I'm looking at it from a DJ's perspective and I may be more critical than a club owner that's never DJed themselves.
As for how long it takes me to finish a mix, it depends. Anything from "as long as it takes me to record it live" to months if I'm making a complicated multitracked mix. |
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