Leaked contracts and technical riders from various DJs and artists, interesting read |
Lela Umanskaya
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
I don't see how a small crappy venue with a sub par sound system could turn a profit paying for a superstar DJ, sound reinforcement and those riders demands.
It happens all the time, you need to understand that no promoter worth his salt would ever meet those demands word for word. Also, most of those rigs would cost 1/4 million to build as specc'ed, if not more. The same rig can usually be hired in for maybe $5-15k a evening
, depending on venue size.
My companies actually relatively small and we roll in with $50-60k just in speaker cabinets to cover 1000 people, that doesn't count amps, processing, consoles, etc, etc. Factor in upkeep as well, and a competent house technician to run it all. Very few venues have that kind of money to throw at an install system, especially if the only have a rez DJ 6 days of the week.
Edit: Canadian Dollars, in case any of those numbers seem off to you guys |
Romelia Stankard
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
That part actually makes sense…to a degree. It doesn't make sense that most of them specify all this shit and then clip the fuck out of the mixer's output, though. That's just straight ignant.
I really don't understand this. These people are big name producers so they must know something about mixing and clipping yet so many clip DJ mixers like it's their jobs. It's not like these people will be peaking in the single reds once in a while, I see people all the time just be in the straight double reds with the entire meter on the master output and channels just stay completely lit and not even move (just all LEDs on all the time and hardly even flicker). I don't buy that that's the right way to run pioneer mixers either. |
Dorie Scelzo
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Liambo
It seems like they are just being fussy. 15cm or 1 inch? Why can they not just do it themselves when they get there?
I also love how whoever wrote that doesn't understand conversions. 1 inch is 2.54 cm…so no matter whether someone dropped a decimal point or something, it was still written by an idiot.
Kinda like that one brand of lightbulb that works 1000 hours or 2000 horas……yay for reading in spanglish…I have to buy light bulbs half as often now.
Originally Posted by loverocket
I love how he demands no distortion from his distorted ultra compressed tracks.
That part actually makes sense…to a degree. It doesn't make sense that most of them specify all this shit and then clip the fuck out of the mixer's output, though. That's just straight ignant. |
Jerica Salava
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by rotebass
The vast majority of my paychecks consists of bring a mobile rig into venues that don't have adequate gear
, any A or B level touring act is usually going to request something that far exceeds what the average club provides.
I don't see how a small crappy venue with a sub par sound system could turn a profit paying for a superstar DJ, sound reinforcement and those riders demands. I love how he demands no distortion from his distorted ultra compressed tracks.
> |
Kiyoko Wellisch
21.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by alex20
You act like you wouldn't ask them to have it set up for you if you were a star.. Fact is these guys come in and make the promoters money. Even with their contracts and riders, these DJs will provide the club promoter far more revenue than a local DJ who has no rider.
Also, as someone said earlier, these guys live their lives on the road so their requests are going to be different than what you and your friends who are local DJs would require.
Nero's got it right dude :P |
Palma Hanslip
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
dude, a star shouldn't have to move the gear
.. what kind of stress that would be before a show..
I know, Man what was i believeing mentioning that!! |
robin loo
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Liambo
It seems like they are just being fussy. 15cm or 1 inch? Why can they not just do it themselves when they get there?
dude, a star shouldn't have to move the gear
.. what kind of stress that would be before a show.. |
Palma Hanslip
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by sdjm
To prevent overheating.
It seems like they are just being fussy. 15cm or 1 inch? Why can they not just do it themselves when they get there? |
Paulene Netz
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Gnozis
Why do they all request a gap between the CDJ's and the mixer?
To prevent overheating. |
Kiyoko Wellisch
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
The new CDJ 2K's have a LAN (ethernet port) on the back when you LINK them with an ethernet cord, you can plug ONE USB stick on either CDJ 2K and pull up tracks on either player. Do your whole set with one USB stick. And when they next DJ is up he plugs into the open CDJ USB port and takes over. You finish your last track pull your USB stick out and your done. (google PIONEER REKORDBOX)
Yeah but if you read he's connecting 2 with usb, which isn't possible as far as I'm aware. And you can't connect 3 CDJ2000s with an ethernet cable without a switch since they only have 1 port each. |
Random X
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by JasonBay
1 1/8oz of local grass eh?
Here ya go:
|
Random X
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by DJ JesC
what about Chuckie & Afrojack?? arent they from NL?
True! |
Jerica Salava
20.06.2012 | I see. |
Lela Umanskaya
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
I don't see how a small crappy venue with a sub par sound system could turn a profit paying for a superstar DJ, sound reinforcement and those riders demands.
It happens all the time, you need to understand that no promoter worth his salt would ever meet those demands word for word. Also, most of those rigs would cost 1/4 million to build as specc'ed, if not more. The same rig can usually be hired in for maybe $5-15k a evening
, depending on venue size.
My companies actually relatively small and we roll in with $50-60k just in speaker cabinets to cover 1000 people, that doesn't count amps, processing, consoles, etc, etc. Factor in upkeep as well, and a competent house technician to run it all. Very few venues have that kind of money to throw at an install system, especially if the only have a rez DJ 6 days of the week.
Edit: Canadian Dollars, in case any of those numbers seem off to you guys |
Romelia Stankard
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
That part actually makes sense…to a degree. It doesn't make sense that most of them specify all this shit and then clip the fuck out of the mixer's output, though. That's just straight ignant.
I really don't understand this. These people are big name producers so they must know something about mixing and clipping yet so many clip DJ mixers like it's their jobs. It's not like these people will be peaking in the single reds once in a while, I see people all the time just be in the straight double reds with the entire meter on the master output and channels just stay completely lit and not even move (just all LEDs on all the time and hardly even flicker). I don't buy that that's the right way to run pioneer mixers either. |
Dorie Scelzo
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Liambo
It seems like they are just being fussy. 15cm or 1 inch? Why can they not just do it themselves when they get there?
I also love how whoever wrote that doesn't understand conversions. 1 inch is 2.54 cm…so no matter whether someone dropped a decimal point or something, it was still written by an idiot.
Kinda like that one brand of lightbulb that works 1000 hours or 2000 horas……yay for reading in spanglish…I have to buy light bulbs half as often now.
Originally Posted by loverocket
I love how he demands no distortion from his distorted ultra compressed tracks.
That part actually makes sense…to a degree. It doesn't make sense that most of them specify all this shit and then clip the fuck out of the mixer's output, though. That's just straight ignant. |
Jerica Salava
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by rotebass
The vast majority of my paychecks consists of bring a mobile rig into venues that don't have adequate gear
, any A or B level touring act is usually going to request something that far exceeds what the average club provides.
I don't see how a small crappy venue with a sub par sound system could turn a profit paying for a superstar DJ, sound reinforcement and those riders demands. I love how he demands no distortion from his distorted ultra compressed tracks.
> |
Kiyoko Wellisch
21.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by alex20
You act like you wouldn't ask them to have it set up for you if you were a star.. Fact is these guys come in and make the promoters money. Even with their contracts and riders, these DJs will provide the club promoter far more revenue than a local DJ who has no rider.
Also, as someone said earlier, these guys live their lives on the road so their requests are going to be different than what you and your friends who are local DJs would require.
Nero's got it right dude :P |
Augustus Nestegard
21.06.2012 | You act like you wouldn't ask them to have it set up for you if you were a star.. Fact is these guys come in and make the promoters money. Even with their contracts and riders, these DJs will provide the club promoter far more revenue than a local DJ who has no rider.
Also, as someone said earlier, these guys live their lives on the road so their requests are going to be different than what you and your friends who are local DJs would require. |
Palma Hanslip
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
dude, a star shouldn't have to move the gear
.. what kind of stress that would be before a show..
I know, Man what was i believeing mentioning that!! |
robin loo
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Liambo
It seems like they are just being fussy. 15cm or 1 inch? Why can they not just do it themselves when they get there?
dude, a star shouldn't have to move the gear
.. what kind of stress that would be before a show.. |
Palma Hanslip
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by sdjm
To prevent overheating.
It seems like they are just being fussy. 15cm or 1 inch? Why can they not just do it themselves when they get there? |
Paulene Netz
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Gnozis
Why do they all request a gap between the CDJ's and the mixer?
To prevent overheating. |
Kandy Ahdoot
20.06.2012 | here you go xone.
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Kiyoko Wellisch
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
The new CDJ 2K's have a LAN (ethernet port) on the back when you LINK them with an ethernet cord, you can plug ONE USB stick on either CDJ 2K and pull up tracks on either player. Do your whole set with one USB stick. And when they next DJ is up he plugs into the open CDJ USB port and takes over. You finish your last track pull your USB stick out and your done. (google PIONEER REKORDBOX)
Yeah but if you read he's connecting 2 with usb, which isn't possible as far as I'm aware. And you can't connect 3 CDJ2000s with an ethernet cable without a switch since they only have 1 port each. |
Dorie Scelzo
20.06.2012 | I believe the appalling part of all of this is how shitty everyone's taste in liquor is. |
Random X
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by JasonBay
1 1/8oz of local grass eh?
Here ya go:
|
Random X
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by DJ JesC
what about Chuckie & Afrojack?? arent they from NL?
True! |
Kia Vonhagel
20.06.2012 | Why do they all request a gap between the CDJ's and the mixer? |
Yukiko Beauvil
20.06.2012 | Diplo's rider is way too good. |
Lashawn Maycock
20.06.2012 | ahhhhh so good to see the spirit of the Second Summer of Love is still alive and kicking!! It's all about the music, a collective, a shared experience in electronic dance music innit! |
Freida Leash
19.06.2012 | my favorite so far deadmau5:
1 large inflatable animal, at least 5' tall, inflated.
nothing but trouble for sure when they start asking for huge inflatable animals. |
Daniell Tortora
19.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
Not sure. Maybe you can use LAN and/or USB. therefore. two use LAN and the third needs USB because the LAN is taken.
My best guess is that he didn't write the rider himself, and that his agent or whoever was told something about linking them together so he only needed one USB stick. Agent wouldn't know about the cables, just something about linking them for USBs to work.
Also, despite how insane Pendulum looks, I really respect how they take care of their roadies. |
Rolanda Clodfelder
19.06.2012 |
Wow Groove Armada must really put down the drinks looking at their contract...
I had the pleasure of being stage tech at a gig they played at ......and there is a reason for the "Armada" in the name, musicians just kept pouring out on stage, about 15-20 in total - drummers, bassets, brass, 4 vocalists, keyboards, DJ etc ... |
Yukiko Beauvil
19.06.2012 | probably to smoke that local grass lol |
Georgina Schatzman
19.06.2012 | 1 1/8oz of local grass eh? |
Romelia Stankard
19.06.2012 | Steve Aoki's rider is more absurd than I guessed...
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Jerica Salava
19.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
I'm aware. Look at the diagram, it makes absolutely no sense. It has some of the CDJs connected to each other with "link via usb cable" and two of them connected with lan. You can't connect them together with USB cables.
Not sure. Maybe you can use LAN and/or USB. therefore. two use LAN and the third needs USB because the LAN is taken. |
Jerica Salava
19.06.2012 | he is referring to his monitors. |
Cira Ditz
19.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by MWagner
I liked how Pauly D requires that his turntables be set up "battle style"
and at 'belly button height' ??
Maybe it'd help if they knew how far from the ground Pauly D's Belly button is ?
What if he's wearing shoes with a high platform? Or what if his bellybutton is in his ass? They should be more specific (doesn't even say if it's Pauly D's belly button. Could be Yoda's or something) |
