The Drum & Bass Thread (formally Drum 'n' Bass is dead?)
The Drum & Bass Thread (formally Drum 'n' Bass is dead?) Posted on: 19.08.2008 by Random X Every now and than, a musical genres foremost poet or pioneer will come forth claiming the style is dead.We've already seen it in punk, hip hop, metal, rock and opera already. Stupidest thing even, that this seems to be some kind of "retro- cycle" that passes along every decade. With the coming of styles like dubstep amongst others, purists are really keen on claiming that these styles are no derative or subgenre of our beloved DnB. Better yet, they utter the words "DnB is dead!" If your own creative impulses can't cope with a style any longer, why claim it is dead in the first place? Couldn't it just evolve into other (sub)styles? No, kill your idols instead! There seems to be no better way to start something new, than completely destroy any relations with the past. How can a genre with high BPM rates be dead, while comparing it to the ever so low BPM rates of the ever so vivid dubstep? Ofcourse, BPM rates are not a factor in this case, but people listening and enjoying DnB are. There are still heaps and heaps of bass-heads still jumping their shoes to the sounds of d&b pioneers as Krush, Bukem, Dom & Roland and all others still producing. Agreed that the old spirit needs to be revived. Still, it's no reason to don the old lass after that much joy she has given us. Drum and Bass is dead? It seems ever so vibrant as it was in 1996! | |
| Random X 25.09.2008 | Ghehehehe... You say tomatoes... I say ketchup.. |
| Virginia Ortiz 24.09.2008 | 3 blind children wash an elephant |
| Dj Daxsen 23.09.2008 | Kaon your lucky, New Zealands dnb scene is flourishing! Not everyone is in the same boat |
| Virginia Ortiz 23.09.2008 | comeback from what? its still lively as heck check my attachment, more gigs like this please dudes! me and midifidler gonna be rockin it up! were the only controllerist guys playing, one serato, two viynil djs, and these guys who are a live band who play dnb, dubstep, electronica on guitars and keyboards midified thru ableton and reason, they do some ground breaking shit! |
| Hannes Deburchgraeve 23.09.2008 |
Originally Posted by tekki
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| Ryan Morales 23.09.2008 |
Originally Posted by tekki
Its Jazzy, Brown Paper Bag, Brut Force, Mexican... so many classic tracks. One day maybe... one day. |
| Random X 23.09.2008 | As Roni Size and crew once told us @the Solaris beach club in Zandvoort, Holland, everything will come full cycle. There is no beginning, there is no end. True Drum & Bass will never die! |
| Xavier Emanuels 22.09.2008 |
Originally Posted by midian
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| Hannes Deburchgraeve 22.09.2008 | Here in San Francisco DnB has been dead for a while now. Everyone has moved on. Even when DieselBoy and Hype came out there were only a few people here. |
| Ryan Morales 22.09.2008 | DnB has the uncanny ability to constantly evolve and take from other genres to create new genres. I mean Spor/Evol Intent/Lifted/Noisia/etc have all taken electro and put it with DnB and evolving a new sound, Dubstep has made a new sound, eg Chase & Status - Judgement. This will continue to happen, new genres come out and DnB takes them and makes them more brutal. DnB cannot die. DnB is immortal. |
| sinior cliff 22.09.2008 | DnB is NOT DEAD!!!!!!!!!! SOLDIERS UNITE!!!!! |
| Random X 22.09.2008 | w00t! Did a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge d&b massive set with dannyboy and another mate in his livingroom. There was also a VJ living up our living room. F-in awesome set. Too bad we didn't record any, but Evol intent, the Upbeats... Every cool release of the past two months passed the mighty BCR! People spreadin the "DnB is dead" lie will be executed by means of massive overkill by BPMs! Repent yee sinners! |
| DiscJoker aka GP 22.09.2008 | well i just got a whole bunch of liquid dnb tunes and i am loving the shit out of them. Right now I am processing them in mixed in key right now to come up with a sweet mix. |
| Xavier Emanuels 21.09.2008 |
Originally Posted by andyfoz
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| Lianny Paris 21.09.2008 | DnB is dead? i guess this is a US community
, you wouldnt say that if you lived in the uk. check out chase and status recently? no good and pieces to bangers. |
| Random X 22.08.2008 |
Originally Posted by VoOFA
In contrary of this topic, it's the lighter d&b. Hope you can/will enjoy this one filled with classics. It was my second ever recorded set. Once again a b2b- vinyl set with my friend dannyboy. No controllers and no tracklisting available. |
| Ryan Morales 22.08.2008 | I fukin love DnB, I got into it from DJ Shadow - Organ Donor back around 2000. Then hold your colour brought me back into it in a big way and I havnt looked back... DnB (aka Phat07) is what got me into DJing and music so hard. BUT! I have to say at this point DnB as much as I love it, it has stopped evolving, and as such is kinda dead.... even The Upbeats (Kaon and MidiFidler wil know them) have said DnB is dead. Just like back around 97/98 DnB/Jungle stopped really doing much after its inital flourish and emergence from acidhouse, heaps of good shit, DJ Die, RoniSize, Krust etc many said it was dead... until around 2002ish when it started to evolve again with the onset of the digital revolution and we had a whole new sound on our hands. But now I believe the future really is about taking other genres and sounds and mashing them with DnB principals (ie heavy sub-bass) rather then sticking to straight up 172BPM Break (probably an amen) with a phat sine wave bassline with a saw wave highpassed at around 150hz (for the 'distortion' sound). And how can you forget the snares that all sound like evil alien acid rain.... I mean I love that shit, but its done its dash and is no longer anywhere near as progressive as it once was, and there is less and less progressive DnB coming out. It needs change or it will stagnate. In saying that there is some progressive DnB, Spor for example.. pretty much sounds like a legion of godzillas raging through down town LA. Awesome. Also the likes of Photek n Noisia, + they are mixing in other genres, bringing the OMWTF factor... i mean diplodocus is fukin WOWWTF... BUT at the end of the day as Ean said, theres nothing quite like DnB to dance and take drugs to. |
| Dj Daxsen 21.08.2008 | Each to their own. Im not minding Substance D but i haven't really LISTENED to it, just had it cranking as background noise :P |
| sinior cliff 21.08.2008 | I would have to agree with all of those names with the exception of dieselboy... I know I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but his music (as a producer) is toilet water. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely respect his creativity and technique as a DJ, but as a producer I find him repetative, clangy, and sans finesse. He's among those that I would see live, but will never ever buy another one of his CDs (Unless it has an Evol Intent mix liek Human Resource). He does, however, have an uncanny ability to bring creative minds together. |
| Dj Daxsen 21.08.2008 | HAHA man we get none of that good shit where i am. I would kill to see dieselboy, technical itch, evol intent, counter-strike etc. Dark drum and bass is awesome! |
| sinior cliff 21.08.2008 |
Originally Posted by obsidiance
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| Virginia Ortiz 21.08.2008 | yea theyre mean, and the whole evol-love love-evol thing is kool |
| Dj Daxsen 21.08.2008 | Goldie essential mix is THE SHIT! can anyone say, Evol Intent? |
| pramod hamidpure 21.08.2008 |
Originally Posted by tekki
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| Virginia Ortiz 21.08.2008 | haha goldie is ALL class! ive seen bse 3 times now (they come to nz a lot) and everytime has been mindblowing. damn i wish therer were some jungle djs here, ive never been to a proper jungle gig i feel like im missing out! |
| Random X 21.08.2008 |
Originally Posted by eangolde
Original Nuttah - Shy FX & UK Apache Fire - Prizna ? (That started it all for me. )
Originally Posted by Kaon
Small, but dammit, the most fantastic line up ever. Goldie & Black Sun Empire! Wow... Goldie chose his records that well, that I was on a natural E rush! |
| Virginia Ortiz 21.08.2008 |
Originally Posted by BentoSan
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| Roberto Viccione 21.08.2008 | None of this stuff ever dies. It just evolves. Hell, disco didn't die. It just became New Kids on the Block |
| 21.08.2008 | I am going to date myself here but I first fell in love with jungle back in 96 and its still my go music of choice for dancing and working. Hopefully it will never truly die. |
| sinior cliff 21.08.2008 | Agreed. Noisia is tits. Their Fabriclive album is pretty wicked. Great music all around with some old skool sounding jungle going into electro house and back into WTFpwnage. And yes, Calyx and Teebee are mind blowing... now if everyone would stop playing out Dimensional Entity, maybe the track would have a longer life. =) |
| Xavier Emanuels 21.08.2008 | Noisia rocks my world now theres something to talk about I was roped in when first hearing Block Control and there has been no turning back, even their take on house with gutterpunk is pretty decent, but i like their dnb alot more... then again i am a dnb fiend Ill also take this opportunity to point out the obvious by saying that Calyx and Teebee are mind blowing |
| Random X 21.08.2008 | Well in my case it was Noisia that pulled me back into D&B and ofcourse some relistening of older technical itch, bad company, krush and die. |
| Dj Daxsen 20.08.2008 | hahahaha midifidler! I have heard so much bad news about their live "shows". I don't mind some of the tracks on In Silico, iIreally didn't like it at first but granite goes alright. Don't listen to it expecting to hear awesome dnb. IMO it isn't a dnb album at all, and if your open to other stuff then some of it is ok. |
| Adolf Hit 20.08.2008 | Hold you color was a sic album, I can still remember the first time I heard the intro to Slam. In fact that album pretty was responsible for pulling me back to d&b in a big way. I believe at the end of the day hold your color wasn't really about pendulum so much as the feature artists. Bento I totally agree with you, my use of the word litz may have been a little ambiguous to those outside Hamilton. The new album stinks, and it is a sore point that suddenly everyone knows who they are because of it, but are still all like "hold your what?". After seeing their pathetic attempt at a show this year, and paying 80 fucking dollars for an hour long set of metal trying to be d&b with a drummer who constantly lost time I really have a hard time saying anything positive about them. I guess the dubstep dj before them was pretty sic lol |
| Dj Daxsen 20.08.2008 | God damn i can still remember the first time i heard slam. with the intro and everything, it drops sooo fat! yummy! I can understand why you can get annoyed when you only here "Pendulum" when some people are talking about drum and bass. I still prefer Hold Your Colour > In Silico but it's growing on me slowly. Some of the drum lines are pretty hard. |
| Virginia Ortiz 20.08.2008 |
Originally Posted by Damien1138
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| Random X 20.08.2008 | Ain't afterlife beautiful. Damn! |
| sinior cliff 20.08.2008 | BTW, DnB is not dead. It's alive and kicking here in Los Angeles; more and more producers and DJs are getting work everyday. If it is dead, then this is DnB's afterlife, where the darkness will prevail and engulf the masses in waves and waves of sub-sonic bass. Any strobe-light honey will tell you that nothing will make them more wet than a deep, penetrating bassline. What other than DnB can deliver that? |
| sinior cliff 20.08.2008 | Listening to Pendulum is like listening to Culture Club set to Amen breaks. The new album is toilet water. I'll still drop Slam tho =) |
| Xavier Emanuels 20.08.2008 |
Originally Posted by Wuz
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