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Blaze DJ Software
Posted on: 08.07.2012 by Gayle Endre
Hello everyone,

I want to introduce you to my new DJ Software called Blaze
I started this project because there is no well working free DJ software available atm.
So give it a try and please give me a feadback > www.independentSounds.de


Eloy Kiepke
10.07.2012
Originally Posted by nypenick
Have you ever looked at the sourcecode of mixxx and do you really know what you're talking about?
any programming experience?
dunno what the source code of mixxx has to do with it. Tons of developers have a fine time working with it. I've never cared to look at it, but yes I have plenty of programming experience.

Originally Posted by nypenick
I recreate the wheel for the four thousandth time?
Is there any well working free DJ software except mixxx?
and I personally don't like mixxx's user interface
What? Yes. You didn't research other DJ apps at any point during the creation of your program?

Also, you know Mixxx supports skins, right? Since it's seeming like the user interface is a much bigger deal to you than the functionality, why don't you just make skins for Mixxx?

Originally Posted by nypenick
and watch this:
http://www.softpedia.com/screenshots/TRAKTOR-DJ_1.png

yea no one would mix with that but now you do
the difference? you paied 200$
That was 12 years ago and was still miles and miles beyond what you've made, both in development and in UI (that look was in style 12 years ago).
They were inventing the concept of DJ software. You already had that context when you started.
TONS of people mixed with that.
I'd never pay $200 for Traktor.

I don't mean to be negative... More power to you for doing something, I'm just saying you're misdirecting your energy here... This will definitely not take off, unless you somehow miraculously come up with some amazing feature nobody else has ever thought of. That's incredibly unlikely, being one guy both skinning and developing this. Mixxx, being open-source with 11 years under its belt, is going to continue to win the Free DJ software game. If you're hoping to beat it out on the user-interface side, it's not going to happen because Mixxx supports skinning, and if you're trying to beat it out on the features side, it's not going to happen because Mixxx is open-source, has hundreds of developers, and 11 years on you. you're not going to beat it out on the Free DJ software niche, it's just not going to happen.

As you develop these new features like midi and timecode, you're just working on catching up to the DJ apps that people do use. People will try it out, sure, and follow it's development, but nobody's going to have any reason to actually switch to your app unless you really come up with some incredible exclusive feature. Lke I said, you can't make it on the User Interface ticket, because other apps already support skinning anyways.

As I said, as it sounds like UI is the biggest thing to you, unless you have some huge game-changing idea on the development/features side, don't bother wasting time on developing to catch up to Mixxx, just start making Mixxx or VDJ skins.
Gayle Endre
10.07.2012
ah ok.. I never really worked with mixxx because when I tried it (version 0.xx), there was any problem with my audio device

maybe the next time I'll make a sync button because a lot of people are complaining about that there is no..
but midi comes first

in about 1~2 weeks I'm done with my exams and then I'll do all this stuff and timecode, effects, skins etc
Chasidy Heckenbach
10.07.2012
Originally Posted by synthet1c
More power to you bro, I'm sure if you start seeing donations the effort you put into it would increase.
money is always a good motivator i do suspect that most people will want/expect some kind of sync/quantize, but so long as that gets done sometime this software could have a great future imho esp if ported to mac.
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
10.07.2012
It's amazing the difference a skin makes to peoples opinion of the quality of software...

More power to you bro, I'm sure if you start seeing donations the effort you put into it would increase.
Chasidy Heckenbach
10.07.2012
Originally Posted by nypenick
Is there any well working free DJ software except mixxx?
and I personally don't like mixxx's user interface
the interface isn't fixed in mixxx (unlike traktor etc) you can skin it as much as you like.
Gayle Endre
10.07.2012
I'm sorry, I don't mean to just jump out and be negative, but he DID come in and post promo spam.
Yea maybe I did, but people seems to be interested in it so who cares? (except you)

And I mean, yeah it's a feat of programming... It's just thus far pointless, and if Mixxx is struggling to be relevant with hundreds of developers and 11 years of development, I can't really predict much in the future of a program made buy one dude, seemingly basing it on lacking quantization "To prohibit extinction of DJing".
Have you ever looked at the sourcecode of mixxx and do you really know what you're talking about?
any programming experience?

I'll be impressed when anything original happens with this. Yay, he recreated the wheel for the four thousandth time, instead of just jumping on board with one of the other many DJ software start-ups to try to get them past this point of comparative irrelevance.
I recreate the wheel for the four thousandth time?
Is there any well working free DJ software except mixxx?
and I personally don't like mixxx's user interface

and watch this:
http://www.softpedia.com/screenshots/TRAKTOR-DJ_1.png

yea no one would mix with that but now you do
the difference? you paied 200$
Chasidy Heckenbach
10.07.2012
tho at least you should get the benefit of djdecks with the merging of code for vdj 8
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
09.07.2012
Have a look at djdecks if you want to see what one guy can achieve with creating dj software... It is arguably the best software that was on the market with the most open and user focused development of any paid dj app. All done by just one guy, I'm actually a little disappointed I never knew about it and spent so long with vdj when I could have done so much more with djdecks.
Chasidy Heckenbach
09.07.2012
Originally Posted by Saurus
I'm sorry, I don't mean to just jump out and be negative, but he DID come in and post promo spam.
i admit it was pretty spammy for a very first community post, but it is kind of relevant spam

And I mean, yeah it's a feat of programming... It's just thus far pointless, and if Mixxx is struggling to be relevant with hundreds of developers and 11 years of development, I can't really predict much in the future of a program made buy one dude, seemingly basing it on lacking quantization "To prohibit extinction of DJing".
i don't believe mixxx is struggling at all, tho on this community it doesn't get much time... most software apart from traktor struggles on this community apart from possibly serato and ableton these days.

i missed that "To prohibit extinction of DJing" comment but did see someone else mention it. he's purposely not going to implement sync+quantize type functions? for the user base who would be most interested in this software i'd say that's kind of dumb. i don't always use sync but i don't see any issue with pressing the sync button to get the tracks at least tempo synched when we already have an accurate bpm on the screen. having to move the pitch fader in that case just seems a bit redundant. tho i do enjoy just mixing manually sometimes, ignoring the screen info... if he's going to add in midi support and some kind of scripting and skins then ofc anyone else could at least add in a vdj style "click to sync tempo". he should at least add that in.

I'll be impressed when anything original happens with this. Yay, he recreated the wheel for the four thousandth time, instead of just jumping on board with one of the other many DJ software start-ups to try to get them past this point of comparative irrelevance.

or easy mode: If a single relevant Forum member (or really any actively gigging DJ for that matter) officially switches to this, I'll be impressed.
it is free tho... at the stage when it can do at least all that the free version of vdj can do and also have midi then it may be interesting.

there again ofc there *is* always mixxx that has some great stuff in 1.11 and even cooler ones in 1.12. never mind the uber awesome "slip mode" that is in an unofficial code branch atm and stuff like key analysis that will be part of mixxx itself very soon so people (who care about it) don't need to use separate software for that.

i'm still really impressed with his software tho and can't see any point in being negative about it.
Eloy Kiepke
09.07.2012
Originally Posted by zestoi
i believe he's done a mammothly impressive job - i guess some people are never impressed
I'm sorry, I don't mean to just jump out and be negative, but he DID come in and post promo spam.

And I mean, yeah it's a feat of programming... It's just thus far pointless, and if Mixxx is struggling to be relevant with hundreds of developers and 11 years of development, I can't really predict much in the future of a program made buy one dude, seemingly basing it on lacking quantization "To prohibit extinction of DJing".

I'll be impressed when anything original happens with this. Yay, he recreated the wheel for the four thousandth time, instead of just jumping on board with one of the other many DJ software start-ups to try to get them past this point of comparative irrelevance.

or easy mode: If a single relevant Forum member (or really any actively gigging DJ for that matter) officially switches to this, I'll be impressed.
Chasidy Heckenbach
09.07.2012
Originally Posted by Saurus
There's a paypal donate button IN the software.... Well that'll sure look professional at gigs....
wow... uncalled for negativity this is only afaics the very first version of his software and i'm sure he'd be open to the idea of removing that later on for registered users, once he has some kind of registration system in place.

i believe he's done a mammothly impressive job - i guess some people are never impressed
Ashanti Andreacchio
10.07.2012
Are you really expecting this to be used by professionals like people that actualy DJ for a living. This can be a player in the marked for beginners DJ as a free alternative and envolve from there. So a donate button is not going to be a dealbreaker for posible usergroup. And one more thing Useualy the gig I play the people don't see my laptop screen only the back ot the lid.
Loreta Altema
09.07.2012
Originally Posted by Saurus
There's a paypal donate button IN the software.... Well that'll sure look professional at gigs....
Seems we have a Negative Nancy here..

Keep up the hard work nypenick. Thanks for contributing to the community as much as you have thus far!
Eloy Kiepke
09.07.2012
There's a paypal donate button IN the software.... Well that'll sure look professional at gigs....
Gayle Endre
09.07.2012
It might be best to take the website/blog-artist tracks out of the screenshot.
thx ^^"

awesome work i'd say midi is probably more important than timecode for most users, and is worth doing right. how long have you been working on the app?
thx a lot

yea I'm going to add the midi feature in about 1 week..
and I'll check the filebrowser because someone else complained about problems with it

I have been working for it a long time.. but when I startet with this project I didn't know anything about audio processing so efficient I'm working on it about 6-7 Months but not every day because there is university, girlfriend, friends etc
Random X
09.07.2012
@Nypenick:
It might be best to take the website/blog-artist tracks out of the screenshot.
Chasidy Heckenbach
09.07.2012
cheers for the screenshot

i'd finished the work i had to do on linux so booted to win7 (the first time in a long time ) to try it out... and i must say i am bloody impressed after the tracks were analysed it seems to hum along at only about 10% cpu usage in my old 2.2GHz T4400. only issue i had was when clicking on "my computer" in the browser as it seemed to hang, but i presume it was just searching for files and would have come back eventually.

it seems to have all the basics already... hotcues, loops, eq+transport. i like the parallel waveforms, something traktor could do with (not that i use traktor these days).

awesome work i'd say midi is probably more important than timecode for most users, and is worth doing right. how long have you been working on the app?
Gayle Endre
09.07.2012
I believe it might be the JAVA crashing it.
If the programm hungs up there may be problems in the programm code, but when it suddenly crashes and disappears from the screen then it's a problem with the native libs/ the audio device

looks interesting but can't try it as don't run windows any more and it doesn't seem to work via wine on linux -
Here it says that jre is working with wine 1.3.7
http://appdb.winehq.org
/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=6626

but i don't know how to get a asio driver working with wine
some more fullsize screenshots to have a look at would be cool.
http://www.independentsounds.de/screenshot.png
Chasidy Heckenbach
08.07.2012
looks interesting but can't try it as don't run windows any more and it doesn't seem to work via wine on linux - some java issue. i presume this isn't just another mixxx clone? doesn't look like it, esp being java based but had to ask there's quite a few around... some more fullsize screenshots to have a look at would be cool.
Jerica Salava
08.07.2012
I believe it might be the JAVA crashing it.

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Loreta Altema
09.07.2012
Originally Posted by Saurus
Lawl intentionally keeping an important feature out of your product because you disagree with it? Good luck with this. You've never seen pro's use sync tricks, have you?
SSL seems to do very well without it.
Eloy Kiepke
09.07.2012
Lawl intentionally keeping an important feature out of your product because of your ill-informed prejudice? Good luck with this. You've never seen pro's use sync tricks, have you?

Also, why wouldn't you just jump on board with Mixxx, instead of creating this silly redundancy?
Gayle Endre
08.07.2012
Great initiative!

Just gave it a spin, and am impressed.
Mixing is going quickly.
thx a lot =)

- noticed the cpu usage is very jumpy also when idle (using a dual core G840)
- realy need midi and timecode support, but I believe that will be a future update.
when loading a track it takes all of available cpu usage to decode the bpm and calculating the bpm..
when idle the asio driver furthermore is sending callbacks.. but I'm working on it to use less cpu usage

atm I'm a bit busy because of university and exams :/
but I believe in ~1 week there will be an update with timecode and midi
Would like to know the minimum system specs of the software.
actually i don't know but I got it running fluently on my netbook so I guess:
- 1.6Ghz cpu
- 2Gb ram
- 1024 x 600 Pixe
Make it available for Mac!
I know that a lot of dj are using mac but atm it is realyly difficult to port it to mac because the decoder I'm using online works with windows
I tried it and it crashed twice while I was browsing my folders. Never even got to load a song. I am running Windows 7 Ultimate 32 BIT. Should I uninstall the ASIO4ALL ?
Actually a crash while browsing files has nothing to do with the audio driver but it's difficult to point out whats wrong without having seen the problem by myself
Ashanti Andreacchio
08.07.2012
BPM detection
No Sync to prohibit
extinction of DJing good one
Random X
08.07.2012
Originally Posted by intricate
- realy need midi and timecode support, but I believe that will be a future update.
[..]
Would like to know the minimum system specs of the software.
So, no MIDI support, all happens through mouseclicks?
(Sorry on Mac here)
Noriko Lebowitz
08.07.2012
Make it available for Mac!
Jerica Salava
08.07.2012
I tried it and it crashed twice while I was browsing my folders. Never even got to load a song. I am running Windows 7 Ultimate 32 BIT. Should I uninstall the ASIO4ALL ?
Hang Postman
08.07.2012
you should enable video
Shavonda Ostenson
08.07.2012
Great initiative!

Just gave it a spin, and am impressed.
Mixing is going quickly.

Just some quick suggestions and notifications:

- noticed the cpu usage is very jumpy also when idle (using a dual core G840)
- realy need midi and timecode support, but I believe that will be a future update.

Would like to know the minimum system specs of the software.

All in all a good first experience.
Matt Kane
08.07.2012
this one made me chuckle gonna give it try though

Bildschirmfoto 2012-07-08 um 16.17.51.png

edit: not going to try it since its windows only :/
Gayle Endre
08.07.2012
actually it has, but I disabled the feature because it's still a bit buggy
Birgit Gondal
08.07.2012
has it timecode control?
Gayle Endre
08.07.2012
no spam!
Candy Vardy
08.07.2012
Spammage....

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