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MacBook Pro SSD Retina is it worth for Production? Posted on: 28.10.2013 by Bulah Pizzolo After my decision to start with music production, I am going to change over from my current MacBook Air to a MacBook Pro. Main reason is that my Air does only have 2GB RAM and a 64SSD drive which is not enough at all. On top of that, it's just an 11.6" and it also has less ports. Does it make sense to go wit an older Pro model instead of a brand new one? I don't see any big issues with an older CPU as it's at least an i5 @ 2.5Ghz. However, I am not sure about the SSD drive and the retina display. The SSD is much faster than a traditional 5.400 RPM hard drive, but I am not sure if it is worth? Same thoughts on the retina display. As the retina has a much higher resolution, does it just bring much more sharpness, or will you get more on the screen in total? Thanks!
Ervin Calvery 06.11.2013	Originally Posted by tranceaddict Using the retina resolution is insane, did you every try running it at that? I use Retina MBPs now, and never change the resolution from retina to anything else.
Alphonso Deitchman 05.11.2013	Originally Posted by tranceaddict Heat is also a factor since MBA is too thin and there is less room for proper heat dissipation+ I've found MBAs not too stable on a crane stand (if OP decides to ever play out). Music production isn't taxing on the CPU enough to generate a significant amount of heat, and the Air isn't much worse at venting hot air than the Pros. My Air sits nicely on my Crane Stand too, just like any other laptop. Besides the Retina screen there is next to no difference between the 13" Retina and 13" Air.
Forrest Weeks 04.11.2013	Originally Posted by botstein What? No. Using the retina resolution is insane, did you every try running it at that? Originally Posted by deevey You do realize that the OP does NOT want a 15' anything (or even 13' anything) since the community thread reads: MacBook Pro SSD 'Retina' is it worth for Production and as far as I know retina comes in only 15" and 13". But then if the OP wants to go for an air, its his call. As pointed out by many members here I believe there are various advantages of MBP over MBA. Heat is also a factor since MBA is too thin and there is less room for proper heat dissipation+ I've found MBAs not too stable on a crane stand (if OP decides to ever play out).
Ervin Calvery 04.11.2013	Originally Posted by tranceaddict You'll end up running the retina at 1920*1080 since at the retina resolution the DAW controls will be very small, which is another important factor to consider. What? No.
Bulah Pizzolo 02.11.2013	Originally Posted by deevey Any reason you did not mention a 13' Air ? There has been a few popping up on the mac Refurb Shop for around $1299 with the i7/256/8gb..... Theres one at the Moment with an i7/512/8gb for $1550 which is not a bad deal considering the price of SSD. Yes, there is a reason. The 11" feels really nice .. it's really small and easy to take away to any place. You can grab it with just one hand and it just feels like a portable nice machine. However, the 13" doesn't to me. I can't really explain, but if I would go with a 13", than I would consider a MBP. Again, what I like with my current 11" MBA is really the portability and how easy you can work with it.
Rolanda Clodfelder 02.11.2013	Originally Posted by sw84244 Thanks a lot for all your comments. Honestly .. I am struggling again. I do see all your points .. and obviously they are all more than fair. I will take some more days to make my decision. I believe you have to seriously consider which is more important to you, longevity and power or size. Bottom line is that with either 13' 11' 15' you are paying for what you get, no more, no less. With the 11' you lose the High Res Display, which maybe not a deal breaker now, but in 3 or 4 years it'll be antiquated. With the 13' retina, sure its heavier and 1 inch all round bigger, but is designed for high CPU tasks like audio and video production. Honestly I would not touch a 128 HDD, regardless of which computer you choose its very easy to fill up with day to day stuff and will require constant monitoring/backing up to check you aren't running out of space, again, I'dgo with a bare minimum of 256 if this is going to be your Main Machine. I would NOT recommend a non-retina 13' (I have one) and the screen is really starting to show its age with everything from HD movies to websites, I can't imagine how it would feel in a year or two. Sure its upgradeable to a point, but the processor and GPU are year+ old technology and cannot be upgraded - pointless purchase IMHO. Once you are finished upgrading to an SSD / Ram you are going to be hitting the 1.4k mark anyhow and still lacking a higher res display. Any reason you did not mention a 13' Air ? There has been a few popping up on the mac Refurb Shop for around $1299 with the i7/256/8gb..... Theres one at the Moment with an i7/512/8gb for $1550 which is not a bad deal considering the price of SSD. The 11' is a tidy little machine, has enough Power to run the majority of Applications out there pretty well ... but then again my Lenovo s10 ran Traktor pretty well too. But i would not consider using it as my "DJ" machine just because it worked - it simply was not comfortable in day to day use. You've already used an 11' for day to day work, so I'm guessing you already convinced yourself that it's "just what you need". Well trust me when I say when you try a 13' retina for a few days you will seriously be wondering how the hell you managed to work on an 11' ever before.
Nikole Resende 02.11.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Nope. The 2012 i7 Air comes out on top of the base 13" Pro. Allright, my bad. Still, getting a MBP with maxed out specs makes much more sense for music production than even the fastest MBA with 11" screen and 128GB SSD, imho.
Alphonso Deitchman 02.11.2013	Originally Posted by TCMuc The CPU of the fastest model is still a lot slower than the minimal CPU of the smallest MBP. Nope. The 2012 i7 Air comes out on top of the base 13" Pro. http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/18/...-pro-by-10-15/ Air: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?...0U+%40+1.70GHz Pro: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?...0M+%40+2.50GHz
Nikole Resende 02.11.2013	[QUOTE=sw84244;658344 1) how reasonable is it from the port connections point of view to go with a MBP instead of a MBA? 2) why do I mainly see the MBP's on the stage while the MBA can do the same things?[/QUOTE] 1) Like someone already said, just get a hub and you'll be fine. You'll probably be needing more than two ports anyway (e.g. Interface + Maschine + Push) 2) Because the MBA can't do the same things. MBP vs. MBA is basically like a Formula 1 race car vs. a Porsche. A Porsche is a nice and fast car, but doesn't stand a chance vs. the F1 car. Originally Posted by SJJVEN I'd recommend getting a non-retina macbook pro and upgrading it to 16gb for a lot cheaper then the retina counterpart. You can also have dual drives so you can have a SSD + HDD. I'll be adding a 480gb ssd in the coming months to my machine. I currently have a 1tb hdd so I'll have plenty of space and 16gb of ram. +1 Originally Posted by sw84244 Do you see any BIG disadvantages on the 11.6" MBA beside of the missing Retina display The missing retina display isn't a disadvantage when it comes to music production. The disadvantages of the MBA are CPU power, RAM, harddisc space and screen size. Which is basically everything that matters for music production. Originally Posted by sw84244 I decided to go with a new 11.6" MBA again, but with much better performance. I have some preferred models, which are close from the price point .. what would you recommend? 1) 2013 Model, Core i5 1.3 GHz, 8GB, 256 SSD, 950 EUR 2) 2012 Model, Core i5 1.7 GHz, 8GB, 128 SSD, 850 EUR 3) 2012 Model, Core i5 1.8 GHz, 8GB, 128 SSD, 900 EUR 4) 2012 Model, Core i7 2.0 GHz, 8GB, 128 SSD, 1.000 EUR Based on what I have learned from the last couple of days, CPU power is one of the most important criteria. Therefore, my favorite is number 4) right now. It's an 2012 Model but with an i7 and 2.0GHz. RAM is almost the same for all models and the SSD is fine as I could go with an external USB 3.0 SSD on top. What do you believe? I believe you should take none of them... The CPU of the fastest model is still a lot slower than the minimal CPU of the smallest MBP. A MBA is a nice computer if mobility is very important for you and if you only need to do 'light' work, e.g. office work or web browsing. It's meant to be used for stuff like music production. The MBPs are called "pro" for a reason. You should also get at least a 500GB harddisc. Sample libraries and sample based instruments like NI's kontakt instruments need a lot of disc space. I don't know if a external SSD makes that much sense, even if it's usb 3.0. Also, the biggest advantage of the MBA is portability. Combining a MBA with an external hd is like getting a sportscar, then use it to tow a trailer... I'd suggest you try getting a refurbished non-retina MBP 15" with as much RAM, CPU and harddisk size as possible. You can also switch the superdrive for a SSD drive. If you don't need a portable solution you could also consider getting an iMac, which is much better for production than any laptop. You may need to save up for these options a little longer, but I'm quite sure you would not regret it.
Alphonso Deitchman 06.11.2013	Do you use the standard "Best(Retina)" resolution, or the maximum "more space" option?
Ervin Calvery 06.11.2013	Originally Posted by tranceaddict Using the retina resolution is insane, did you every try running it at that? I use Retina MBPs now, and never change the resolution from retina to anything else.
Rolanda Clodfelder 05.11.2013	since the community thread reads: MacBook Pro SSD 'Retina' is it worth for Production and as far as I know retina comes in only 15" and 13". But then if the OP wants to go for an air, its his call. A MBA 11' NOT a 13' (if you read his answers and the entire thread he has no interest in larger sizes). Reading the title of a thread and not the replies before posting is as pointless as a ninja flipping someone off in a dark alley. Heat is also a factor since MBA is too thin and there is less room for proper heat dissipation+ I've found MBAs not too stable on a crane stand (if OP decides to ever play out). The only thing that ever causes my GF's Macbook Air and My Macbook pro to heat up considerably is Flash Videos and even at that the CPU temp is no worse than any other laptop, just feels that way because the Aluminum casing is doing its job as a giant heatsink.
Alphonso Deitchman 05.11.2013	Originally Posted by tranceaddict Heat is also a factor since MBA is too thin and there is less room for proper heat dissipation+ I've found MBAs not too stable on a crane stand (if OP decides to ever play out). Music production isn't taxing on the CPU enough to generate a significant amount of heat, and the Air isn't much worse at venting hot air than the Pros. My Air sits nicely on my Crane Stand too, just like any other laptop. Besides the Retina screen there is next to no difference between the 13" Retina and 13" Air.
Edwardo Rothenberger 05.11.2013	At some point the Airs & Pros will merge. I believe you always should go with more than what you need, unless you are planning on upgrading every year. Once you start using Ableton, etc you may find you want the portability and the ability to use the laptop's screen. Using any DAW with an 11" screen? I don't believe so. Many couldn't even imagine using a 13". Do you really want to get an 11" Air with 128gb SSD and then find out you really wished you'd got something with a bit more GB and screen size? It's up to you. I personally would go with a Pro.
Forrest Weeks 04.11.2013	Originally Posted by botstein What? No. Using the retina resolution is insane, did you every try running it at that? Originally Posted by deevey You do realize that the OP does NOT want a 15' anything (or even 13' anything) since the community thread reads: MacBook Pro SSD 'Retina' is it worth for Production and as far as I know retina comes in only 15" and 13". But then if the OP wants to go for an air, its his call. As pointed out by many members here I believe there are various advantages of MBP over MBA. Heat is also a factor since MBA is too thin and there is less room for proper heat dissipation+ I've found MBAs not too stable on a crane stand (if OP decides to ever play out).
Rolanda Clodfelder 04.11.2013	Imo for production a 15" cMBP w/ AG screen, a samsung 840 series SSD in optibay and maxed out ram works great as SJJVEN has pointed out. You can always buy an external monitor too You do realize that the OP does NOT want a 15' anything (or even 13' anything)
Ervin Calvery 04.11.2013	Originally Posted by tranceaddict You'll end up running the retina at 1920*1080 since at the retina resolution the DAW controls will be very small, which is another important factor to consider. What? No.
Forrest Weeks 04.11.2013	You'll end up running the retina at 1920*1080 since at the retina resolution the DAW controls will be very small, which is another important factor to consider. Imo for production a 15" cMBP w/ AG screen, a samsung 840 series SSD in optibay and maxed out ram works great as SJJVEN has pointed out. You can always buy an external monitor too
Bulah Pizzolo 02.11.2013	Originally Posted by deevey Any reason you did not mention a 13' Air ? There has been a few popping up on the mac Refurb Shop for around $1299 with the i7/256/8gb..... Theres one at the Moment with an i7/512/8gb for $1550 which is not a bad deal considering the price of SSD. Yes, there is a reason. The 11" feels really nice .. it's really small and easy to take away to any place. You can grab it with just one hand and it just feels like a portable nice machine. However, the 13" doesn't to me. I can't really explain, but if I would go with a 13", than I would consider a MBP. Again, what I like with my current 11" MBA is really the portability and how easy you can work with it.
Rolanda Clodfelder 02.11.2013	Originally Posted by sw84244 Thanks a lot for all your comments. Honestly .. I am struggling again. I do see all your points .. and obviously they are all more than fair. I will take some more days to make my decision. I believe you have to seriously consider which is more important to you, longevity and power or size. Bottom line is that with either 13' 11' 15' you are paying for what you get, no more, no less. With the 11' you lose the High Res Display, which maybe not a deal breaker now, but in 3 or 4 years it'll be antiquated. With the 13' retina, sure its heavier and 1 inch all round bigger, but is designed for high CPU tasks like audio and video production. Honestly I would not touch a 128 HDD, regardless of which computer you choose its very easy to fill up with day to day stuff and will require constant monitoring/backing up to check you aren't running out of space, again, I'dgo with a bare minimum of 256 if this is going to be your Main Machine. I would NOT recommend a non-retina 13' (I have one) and the screen is really starting to show its age with everything from HD movies to websites, I can't imagine how it would feel in a year or two. Sure its upgradeable to a point, but the processor and GPU are year+ old technology and cannot be upgraded - pointless purchase IMHO. Once you are finished upgrading to an SSD / Ram you are going to be hitting the 1.4k mark anyhow and still lacking a higher res display. Any reason you did not mention a 13' Air ? There has been a few popping up on the mac Refurb Shop for around $1299 with the i7/256/8gb..... Theres one at the Moment with an i7/512/8gb for $1550 which is not a bad deal considering the price of SSD. The 11' is a tidy little machine, has enough Power to run the majority of Applications out there pretty well ... but then again my Lenovo s10 ran Traktor pretty well too. But i would not consider using it as my "DJ" machine just because it worked - it simply was not comfortable in day to day use. You've already used an 11' for day to day work, so I'm guessing you already convinced yourself that it's "just what you need". Well trust me when I say when you try a 13' retina for a few days you will seriously be wondering how the hell you managed to work on an 11' ever before.
Bulah Pizzolo 02.11.2013	Thanks a lot for all your comments. Honestly .. I am struggling again. I do see all your points .. and obviously they are all more than fair. I will take some more days to make my decision.
Nikole Resende 02.11.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Nope. The 2012 i7 Air comes out on top of the base 13" Pro. Allright, my bad. Still, getting a MBP with maxed out specs makes much more sense for music production than even the fastest MBA with 11" screen and 128GB SSD, imho.
Alphonso Deitchman 02.11.2013	Originally Posted by TCMuc The CPU of the fastest model is still a lot slower than the minimal CPU of the smallest MBP. Nope. The 2012 i7 Air comes out on top of the base 13" Pro. http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/18/...-pro-by-10-15/ Air: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?...0U+%40+1.70GHz Pro: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?...0M+%40+2.50GHz
Nikole Resende 02.11.2013	[QUOTE=sw84244;658344 1) how reasonable is it from the port connections point of view to go with a MBP instead of a MBA? 2) why do I mainly see the MBP's on the stage while the MBA can do the same things?[/QUOTE] 1) Like someone already said, just get a hub and you'll be fine. You'll probably be needing more than two ports anyway (e.g. Interface + Maschine + Push) 2) Because the MBA can't do the same things. MBP vs. MBA is basically like a Formula 1 race car vs. a Porsche. A Porsche is a nice and fast car, but doesn't stand a chance vs. the F1 car. Originally Posted by SJJVEN I'd recommend getting a non-retina macbook pro and upgrading it to 16gb for a lot cheaper then the retina counterpart. You can also have dual drives so you can have a SSD + HDD. I'll be adding a 480gb ssd in the coming months to my machine. I currently have a 1tb hdd so I'll have plenty of space and 16gb of ram. +1 Originally Posted by sw84244 Do you see any BIG disadvantages on the 11.6" MBA beside of the missing Retina display The missing retina display isn't a disadvantage when it comes to music production. The disadvantages of the MBA are CPU power, RAM, harddisc space and screen size. Which is basically everything that matters for music production. Originally Posted by sw84244 I decided to go with a new 11.6" MBA again, but with much better performance. I have some preferred models, which are close from the price point .. what would you recommend? 1) 2013 Model, Core i5 1.3 GHz, 8GB, 256 SSD, 950 EUR 2) 2012 Model, Core i5 1.7 GHz, 8GB, 128 SSD, 850 EUR 3) 2012 Model, Core i5 1.8 GHz, 8GB, 128 SSD, 900 EUR 4) 2012 Model, Core i7 2.0 GHz, 8GB, 128 SSD, 1.000 EUR Based on what I have learned from the last couple of days, CPU power is one of the most important criteria. Therefore, my favorite is number 4) right now. It's an 2012 Model but with an i7 and 2.0GHz. RAM is almost the same for all models and the SSD is fine as I could go with an external USB 3.0 SSD on top. What do you believe? I believe you should take none of them... The CPU of the fastest model is still a lot slower than the minimal CPU of the smallest MBP. A MBA is a nice computer if mobility is very important for you and if you only need to do 'light' work, e.g. office work or web browsing. It's meant to be used for stuff like music production. The MBPs are called "pro" for a reason. You should also get at least a 500GB harddisc. Sample libraries and sample based instruments like NI's kontakt instruments need a lot of disc space. I don't know if a external SSD makes that much sense, even if it's usb 3.0. Also, the biggest advantage of the MBA is portability. Combining a MBA with an external hd is like getting a sportscar, then use it to tow a trailer... I'd suggest you try getting a refurbished non-retina MBP 15" with as much RAM, CPU and harddisk size as possible. You can also switch the superdrive for a SSD drive. If you don't need a portable solution you could also consider getting an iMac, which is much better for production than any laptop. You may need to save up for these options a little longer, but I'm quite sure you would not regret it.
Alphonso Deitchman 02.11.2013	The 13" Pro does not have anywhere near twice the power of the Air. Also, I wouldn't waste money on an Ivy Bridge based laptop given the huge battery gains that come with Haswell. http://www.primatelabs.com/blog/2013...ro-benchmarks/
Pierre Massner 02.11.2013	get what you've already decided and be happy. at least I'd spend $200 more and get a new macbook pro 13 - more than 2x the power, 500gb hard drive, cheap customizable RAM and warranty that you can extend to 3 years, good resale value too. If you're looking at used mba with no warranty then $1000 isn't a good deal I believe. Check geekbench and see how they compare for the money. By the time you add your external hard drive and power supply mba plus drive will probably be heavier than a 13 mbp.
Bulah Pizzolo 02.11.2013	Of course, I will use an external screen .. 24" or 27" .. But I need the flexibility and mobility when visiting the studio of a friend e.g. On top, if I work with mini, all my data progs, samples, are on the mini and I don't want to have two system.
Pierre Massner 01.11.2013	Are you serious about production??? On an 11" mba?? Keep your old mba for on-the-move stuff and get a mac mini for home/production. 2.3 quadcore, 1tb ssd for 799. Buy a decent sized monitor and still get change from your $1000 plus a brand new machine with full warranty etc. if you're planning on the usb3 ssd you can just use that on the mini then hook it up to your current mba.
Bulah Pizzolo 01.11.2013	I decided to go with a new 11.6" MBA again, but with much better performance. I have some preferred models, which are close from the price point .. what would you recommend? 1) 2013 Model, Core i5 1.3 GHz, 8GB, 256 SSD, 950 EUR 2) 2012 Model, Core i5 1.7 GHz, 8GB, 128 SSD, 850 EUR 3) 2012 Model, Core i5 1.8 GHz, 8GB, 128 SSD, 900 EUR 4) 2012 Model, Core i7 2.0 GHz, 8GB, 128 SSD, 1.000 EUR Based on what I have learned from the last couple of days, CPU power is one of the most important criteria. Therefore, my favorite is number 4) right now. It's an 2012 Model but with an i7 and 2.0GHz. RAM is almost the same for all models and the SSD is fine as I could go with an external USB 3.0 SSD on top. What do you believe?
Alphonso Deitchman 01.11.2013	The processors in the 13" MBP and 13" Air are pretty similar in power.
Bulah Pizzolo 01.11.2013	Originally Posted by deevey Forgot about that. In that case use what you feel comfortable using .. if you don't feel a need to upgrade, great, don't. The new retina just dropped in price to $1299 brand new in base config. I'd say that -$400 for losing a faster processor, more ram, bigger screen, more ports and super high resolution $1000 is about right for the Air - not better. The new retina has just come out though so you'd pick up the older i5 retina for about $1000/$1100 in a few weeks on the refurbished apple store with a full warranty. graphics card is not as good, battery life not as good, but neither of them will make much difference to production. Honestly it sounds as though you just want an excuse not to upgrade to a beefier machine regardless of the pro's / Con's, so I'm out. I believe you're right from the price point of view. However, I am not sure if I got the point with the faster CPU. I thought the Core i5 from the new MBA with 1.3GHz is almost the same power than the Core i5 from the older MBP with 2.5GHz. If this is a big difference, this makes the deal to go for an MBP.
Ervin Calvery 30.10.2013	I believe that it's ridiculous to choose over the number of USB ports. Just use a hub.
Rolanda Clodfelder 30.10.2013	The new Airs have PCIe SSDs too. Forgot about that. Originally Posted by sw84244 Exactly. That's one of the points I mean. In that case use what you feel comfortable using .. if you don't feel a need to upgrade, great, don't. The price is also much better. There are MBA's @ 1.000$ out there, while the MBP seems to be @ 1.400$ at least. The new retina just dropped in price to $1299 brand new in base config. I'd say that -$400 for losing a faster processor, more ram, bigger screen, more ports and super high resolution $1000 is about right for the Air - not better. The new retina has just come out though so you'd pick up the older i5 retina for about $1000/$1100 in a few weeks on the refurbished apple store with a full warranty. graphics card is not as good, battery life not as good, but neither of them will make much difference to production. Honestly it sounds as though you just want an excuse not to upgrade to a beefier machine regardless of the pro's / Con's, so I'm out.
Bulah Pizzolo 30.10.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 The new Airs have PCIe SSDs too. Exactly. That's one of the points I mean.
Alphonso Deitchman 30.10.2013	The new Airs have PCIe SSDs too.
Rolanda Clodfelder 30.10.2013	Originally Posted by sw84244 It's crazy .. I can't decide. I am looking now already a few days but can't decide. Honestly I love my current MBA 11.6" and don't see any big advantages on the latest MBP compared to the latest MBA. Beside of the Retina display there is no big deal. Even the ports are more or less the same. For music production, I still have 2 USB ports. Of course, the MBP has 2 Thunderbolt instead of 1 and also comes with FireWire and the SD slot. But again, that's not a big deal. I love the mobility with the MBA. The price is also much better. There are MBA's @ 1.000$ out there, while the MBP seems to be @ 1.400$ at least. Do you see any BIG disadvantages on the 11.6" MBA beside of the missing Retina display and of course the smaller screen overall (but also here, I would like to run an external screen). Thanks!!! Double the processing Speed, Faster SSD - on top of everything you said above, BUT if you require portability over brute power then get one, personally I could not use an 11' for either home production or gigs, just a tad too small.
Bulah Pizzolo 30.10.2013	It's crazy .. I can't decide. I am looking now already a few days but can't decide. Honestly I love my current MBA 11.6" and don't see any big advantages on the latest MBP compared to the latest MBA. Beside of the Retina display there is no big deal. Even the ports are more or less the same. For music production, I still have 2 USB ports. Of course, the MBP has 2 Thunderbolt instead of 1 and also comes with FireWire and the SD slot. But again, that's not a big deal. I love the mobility with the MBA. The price is also much better. There are MBA's @ 1.000$ out there, while the MBP seems to be @ 1.400$ at least. Do you see any BIG disadvantages on the 11.6" MBA beside of the missing Retina display and of course the smaller screen overall (but also here, I would like to run an external screen). Thanks!!!
Marcos Zelko 29.10.2013	I'm pretty sure you can get it refurbished off of the apple website. If you really need a bigger screen you can simply buy an external monitor and hookup to that.
Alphonso Deitchman 29.10.2013	The only non-retina MBP comes with a 1280x800 screen, which is far too low for production IMO.
Marcos Zelko 29.10.2013	I'd recommend getting a non-retina macbook pro and upgrading it to 16gb for a lot cheaper then the retina counterpart. You can also have dual drives so you can have a SSD + HDD. I'll be adding a 480gb ssd in the coming months to my machine. I currently have a 1tb hdd so I'll have plenty of space and 16gb of ram.

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